am i nuts?

T

Tima

I don;t care what anyone says. I burn an hour of video to a DVD from tape.
I go from DV-AVI.
The DVD is still not as good as the original VHS.

Am I nuts?

Also, am I right?

Also, why ccan't I ever get more than 1 hour per DVD using sonic/mm2 ?

also, am i nuts?
 
C

Chris Lanier

You can't make the video better. When you compress the data you *will have
to lose quality*
 
T

Tima

*so what is the point*?
spend countless hours at the computer crunching away at this?
THey said it was "stunning Digital quality" but it ain't.
 
C

Chris Lanier

You will get "stunning Digital quality" if you capture from a different
source (i.e. DVD, DV Cam, etc.) It's crazy to think that compressing one
format to another will give you better quality in the long run.
 
T

Tima

I never said i thought I would get better quaility!
I certainly thought I should be able to get "almost as good" or identical.
Only an idiot would think the quality would improve, or that someone else
would actually think the quality would improve.
 
L

Lorne Smith

The thing with video compression, is that they are "lossy", meaning for each
time you compress, you will lose data. If you really want to get the same
quality on the capture as you do on the source, then you must capture using
either RAW (no compression), be aware the end file will be huge... You can
then compress it using a very high bitrate, but you will then lose some
quality; how much depends on the bitrate and the codec you use...

www.dvdrhelp.com has a lot of information on capturing video... Take a look.

Lorne
 
T

Tima

well i capture my video tape to DV-AVI.
In order to write it to a DVD i have no choice but to convert it to mpg or
whatever it is.
THe quality sucks
 
C

Chris Lanier

What bitrate are you saving at?

Tima said:
well i capture my video tape to DV-AVI.
In order to write it to a DVD i have no choice but to convert it to mpg or
whatever it is.
THe quality sucks
 
T

Tima

bitrate? bitrate?
I just do what sonic tells me. I know nothing about a bitrate.
How do i find out?
I get 1 hr video on 1 DVD
 
C

Chris Lanier

In Movie Maker. You have the choice to select the "bitrate" to save at.
this directly relates to the quality of the video. Please see
http://www.papajohn.org for more info about saving in Windows Movie Maker.
 
E

Emilio Goldstein

In movie maker, I save the original copy as DV-AVI.

Then i take this DV-AVI into sonic, and Sonic burns a DVD with it.
I think Sonic puts it into the DVD format (mpeg). I don't have a choice in
that.

I don't know how (or think it is possible) to get better quality than that.

still it is not NEAR as good as the original VHS taps
so what the heck
 
C

Chris Lanier

Sorry, I don't know what I'm saying. DV_AVI is 30Mbps. You can't change
it. Is the AVI good or bad quality when you play it? Does the quality
degrade after it is converted to DVD? Have you tried saving your movie as
an WMV High Quality Video (VBR)?
 
T

TIMA

the DV-AVI is ok. 12gig per hour

But then I burn it to DVD in whateverformat that sonic puts it into and it
sucks on the DVD

thanks for your attention
 
C

Chris Lanier

This might be an issue you should being up to Sonic. Converting an high
quality DV-AVI too MEG-2 should not result in much lose of quality at all.
Try asking in Sonic's Forums/newsgroups.
 
T

TIMA

thanks i will!

Chris Lanier said:
This might be an issue you should being up to Sonic. Converting an high
quality DV-AVI too MEG-2 should not result in much lose of quality at all.
Try asking in Sonic's Forums/newsgroups.

movie
 
Z

Z Man

Tima said:
I don;t care what anyone says. I burn an hour of video to a DVD from tape.
I go from DV-AVI.
The DVD is still not as good as the original VHS.

Am I nuts?

Also, am I right?

Also, why ccan't I ever get more than 1 hour per DVD using sonic/mm2 ?

also, am i nuts?

Are you capturing analog video, or digital video through a Firewire port? If
it is analog, what hardware are you using to capture the video?
 
Z

Z Man

TIMA said:
VHS tape => sony digital video camcorder => firewire
thanks

I've tried capturing 8mm->Canon ZR-10. Results have been disappointing. You
might need a better analog->digital converter. The hardware most often
mentioned as being excellent for this task is the Canopus ADVC100. The
ADVC300 is their newer model, but is more expensive and is not available yet
(expected shortly). Check out some reviews of the Canopus ADVC100. You will
undoubtedly be impressed.
 
K

Kent Shaw

I have the Canapus ADVC100 and it works great. I have also tried to
do the encoding with MYDVD and have been disapointed in the quality of
the output. Frames are lost and the sound gets out of sync. One of
the most highly recommended encoders is TMPGEnc.
 
Z

Z Man

Do you have a recommendation as to how to capture in MPEG format (with the
ADV100), for no editing direct conversion to DVD?

Kent Shaw said:
I have the Canapus ADVC100 and it works great. I have also tried to
do the encoding with MYDVD and have been disapointed in the quality of
the output. Frames are lost and the sound gets out of sync. One of
the most highly recommended encoders is TMPGEnc.






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