AIW 9600 - Sound Problem

[Doug Miannay]

A friend has been struggling to understand why he doesn't get the sound when
trying to capture video from an analog video camera. I went by last night
to help him troubleshoot and discovered there's not a cable from the AIW
card's "audio out" connector (I believe it's labeled JP3) to the
motherboard. I would think a cable is needed here to conduct the audio
signal coming in from the video camera to the PC motherboard during capture.
If this is a correct assumption on my part then why didn't ATI include a
cable in the box? The JP3 connector is also an odd size and doesn't take
the "standard" type CD audio connector either.

The questions... does this cable need to be installed to get the audio
coming in through the AIW card during capture? Also, if the cable is
needed, where do I find one?

Thanks!

Doug
Woodstock, GA

 

[T Shadow]

A friend has been struggling to understand why he doesn't get the sound when
trying to capture video from an analog video camera. I went by last night
to help him troubleshoot and discovered there's not a cable from the AIW
card's "audio out" connector (I believe it's labeled JP3) to the
motherboard. I would think a cable is needed here to conduct the audio
signal coming in from the video camera to the PC motherboard during capture.
If this is a correct assumption on my part then why didn't ATI include a
cable in the box? The JP3 connector is also an odd size and doesn't take
the "standard" type CD audio connector either.

The questions... does this cable need to be installed to get the audio
coming in through the AIW card during capture? Also, if the cable is
needed, where do I find one?

Thanks!

Doug
Woodstock, GA

You can run the external line out on the 9600 to the external line in on the
sound card. Just plug it in. The initialization wizzard asks if its
connected. I don't think I got the internal cable with my AIW9600XT. One
came with my AIW128PRO. The local Staples didn't have one. Now that you've
reminded me I'll check at CompUSA tommorow. I like leaving the line in on
the sound card open.

Make sure you have the sound card recording from the port the audio is
coming in on. Usually line in or aux.
HTH

 

[Doug Miannay]

Thanks, T Shadow, for the response!

The PC has on-board sound (no PCI card) so I'd have to run a cable from the
9600 to the "Aux In" connector on the motherboard. Problem is the male
"Audio Out" connector on the 9600 is an odd size and clearly different from
the femaile connector that plugs into the motherboard. I'll obviously need
a cable with two different connectors to make this work.

I look forward to hearing back from you after your visit to CompUSA on
Thursday!

Thanks again!

Doug

 

[Matt Ion]

A friend has been struggling to understand why he doesn't get the sound when
trying to capture video from an analog video camera. I went by last night
to help him troubleshoot and discovered there's not a cable from the AIW
card's "audio out" connector (I believe it's labeled JP3) to the
motherboard. I would think a cable is needed here to conduct the audio
signal coming in from the video camera to the PC motherboard during capture.
If this is a correct assumption on my part then why didn't ATI include a
cable in the box? The JP3 connector is also an odd size and doesn't take
the "standard" type CD audio connector either.

The questions... does this cable need to be installed to get the audio
coming in through the AIW card during capture? Also, if the cable is
needed, where do I find one?

Doesn't the onboard sound have rear-panel connectors (typically at the
very bottom of the ATX connector panel)? Run the camera audio directly
into the line input.

ATI supplies a cable to let you plug into a standard audio-in jack that
99.999% of PCs with either onboard sound or internal sound card will
have - anything more esoteric than that and you're typically on your
own. They can't be expected to forsee every possible hardware variation
and provide for all of them.

 

[Doug Miannay]

Matt,

Thanks for your comments. I understand and agree with your statement about
ATI not being able to forsee all possible combinations but the odd connector
that we don't have a cable for is the on on their card. It would seem
logical that they would supply a cable with their card that has the proper
connector to fit into their card's "audio out" connector.

What am I missing here?

Doug

 

[Jack]

I've got an AIW 9600, and onboard sound. No cable is necessary from JP3 to
the motherboard.
Is he using the "input adapter" with the audio cables connected to it?
Does he have the jack from the "output adapter" plugged into the "line in"
on the computer?
Jack

 

[T Shadow]

Thanks, T Shadow, for the response!

The PC has on-board sound (no PCI card) so I'd have to run a cable from the
9600 to the "Aux In" connector on the motherboard. Problem is the male
"Audio Out" connector on the 9600 is an odd size and clearly different from
the femaile connector that plugs into the motherboard. I'll obviously need
a cable with two different connectors to make this work.

I look forward to hearing back from you after your visit to CompUSA on
Thursday!

Thanks again!

Doug

The only ready made cable I could find is on the ATI website. $10+shipping.
Ridiculess. CompUSA didn't have the cable but they do have a CD-ROM audio
kit that has the connector for $4. Just a matter of cut and splicing the
proper connectors together. I found that I already have the connector on a
cable I'm not using. Forgot, CompUSA also had an MPC-II cable ready made
with several connectors( including the correct ones) but its $30. Ouch!
Good Luck

 

[Doug Miannay]

Thanks for your efforts T Shadow!

You will see a response by "Jack" in this thread that implies you don't need
to attach a cable to JP3. Instead he just connects the video camera audio
out cable to the sound card audio in jack and it works fine for him.

Problem here is that the camera has one of those single cable connector
plugs the attaches to the camera's single output port and then divides into
a single video RCA jack and a single audio RCA jack. When both RCA jacks
are connected to the ATI adapter cable we get no sound. Maybe if I connect
the camera video out RCA jack to the ATI adapter and the camera audio out
RCA jack to the sound card audio in connector it will work. I'll have to
give it a try.

Doug

 

[T Shadow]

Thanks for your efforts T Shadow!

You will see a response by "Jack" in this thread that implies you don't need
to attach a cable to JP3. Instead he just connects the video camera audio
out cable to the sound card audio in jack and it works fine for him.

Problem here is that the camera has one of those single cable connector
plugs the attaches to the camera's single output port and then divides into
a single video RCA jack and a single audio RCA jack. When both RCA jacks
are connected to the ATI adapter cable we get no sound. Maybe if I connect
the camera video out RCA jack to the ATI adapter and the camera audio out
RCA jack to the sound card audio in connector it will work. I'll have to
give it a try.

Doug

Maybe you missed this on my first post.

You can run the external line out on the 9600 to the external line in on the
sound card. Just plug it in.

Look in the bundle of wires that comes out with the VGA(monitor) connectors
You will find a black phone plug. You can plug this into the sound cards
line-in. Nothing to buy. I assumed you didn't want to use it.

All you need to do it Jacks way is a phono to phone converter or cable.

 

[Matt Ion]

Matt,

Thanks for your comments. I understand and agree with your statement about
ATI not being able to forsee all possible combinations but the odd connector
that we don't have a cable for is the on on their card. It would seem
logical that they would supply a cable with their card that has the proper
connector to fit into their card's "audio out" connector.

What am I missing here?

Two possible reasons: one, the other end of that wire could be one of at
least three or four different connectors (although it's 98% likely to be
a standard internal CD-ROM audio connector); two, 98% of people are just
going to use the external 1/8" TRS cable loopback-to-audio-in-jack
anyway, preferring not to mess with their machine's internals.

 

[Matt Ion]

T Shadow wrote:

The only ready made cable I could find is on the ATI website. $10+shipping.
Ridiculess. CompUSA didn't have the cable but they do have a CD-ROM audio
kit that has the connector for $4. Just a matter of cut and splicing the
proper connectors together. I found that I already have the connector on a
cable I'm not using. Forgot, CompUSA also had an MPC-II cable ready made
with several connectors( including the correct ones) but its $30. Ouch!

Try a used-computer shop, or check with the service center of just about
any shop: many sound cards and/or CD-ROMs ship with these cables that
end up going unused, and older units often had the multiple connectors
because older sound cards and CD-ROMs used the different connectors
on-board.

 

[J. Clarke]

The only ready made cable I could find is on the ATI website.
$10+shipping. Ridiculess. CompUSA didn't have the cable but they do have a
CD-ROM audio kit that has the connector for $4. Just a matter of cut and
splicing the proper connectors together. I found that I already have the
connector on a cable I'm not using. Forgot, CompUSA also had an MPC-II
cable ready made with several connectors( including the correct ones) but
its $30. Ouch! Good Luck

The Belkin MPC-II cable should do the trick. CompUSA's price on cables is
ludicrous. Provantage has the same identical cable in the same packaging
for 4 bucks and shipping.
<http://www.provantage.com/buy-7belk...r-printer-scsi-usb-f3x997-26inch-shopping.htm>

 

[T Shadow]

The Belkin MPC-II cable should do the trick. CompUSA's price on cables is
ludicrous. Provantage has the same identical cable in the same packaging
for 4 bucks and shipping.
<http://www.provantage.com/buy-7belk26n-universal-mpc-ii-cd-rom-audio-cable-
26in-belkin-cables-ac-drives-monitor-printer-scsi-usb-f3x997-26inch-shopping
..htm>

Funny thing is I got a catalog from Dalco.com today with the cable for
$2.80. I had looked on their website earlier and either hadn't seen it or
didn't recognize it. They call the little white connector a SoundBlaster
connector and the big Black one the MPC-II. My SB Live and Audigy2 both use
the big connector. Never had the original SB. I go to Dalco 2-3 times a year
anyway so no shipping. I have the connector and was posting for the benfit
of the OP, but for 2.80 I'll skip making my own.

 

[Doug Miannay]

The Belkin MPC-II cable should do the trick. CompUSA's price on cables is
ludicrous. Provantage has the same identical cable in the same packaging
for 4 bucks and shipping.
<http://www.provantage.com/buy-7belk...r-printer-scsi-usb-f3x997-26inch-shopping.htm>

Thanks a ton for all the responses! I'll head for Provantage and pick up
the cable. I am very impressed with all the help I've received here...
thanks again!

Merry Christmas!

Doug