Administrator password

[Guest]

I have a used pc & when I try to install additional
software, I get the message that I must be signed in as
the administrator. I do not have the password & can not
get it. How can I install sofrware on this pc?
Thanks

 

[*Vanguard*]

"(e-mail address removed)" said in

I have a used pc & when I try to install additional
software, I get the message that I must be signed in as
the administrator. I do not have the password & can not
get it. How can I install sofrware on this pc?
Thanks

Get the password for the Administrator account from the person who sold
you the used PC. If indeed they did include a legal copy of Windows in
the sale then they are not allowed to hold your property as hostage.

 

[Josef Stalin]

"(e-mail address removed)" said in


Get the password for the Administrator account from the person who sold
you the used PC. If indeed they did include a legal copy of Windows in
the sale then they are not allowed to hold your property as hostage.

Tsk, tsk. You're presuming. There's a thousand ways to take legal
possession of a computer without knowing its history.

Let's try to think of a few, okay?

Someone dies and the computer is sold or given away.

A couple is divorced and the computer is sold or given away and the last
thing on anyone's mind is the password.

A business goes out of business and the computers are auctioned/sold off.

A person gets into a car accident or does something along those lines that
scrambles their brains and no one knows the password and the computer is
sold/given away.

A computer is lost/stolen and the police/city auction it off when no claims
it after a period of time.

Your assignment is to think of another 6 or more ways someone could obtain a
computer and not know the password. Your response is required before you're
allowed to post again.

Uncle Joe, Man of Steel

 

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

I have a used pc & when I try to install additional
software, I get the message that I must be signed in as
the administrator. I do not have the password & can not
get it. How can I install sofrware on this pc?
Thanks

Hi

http://securityadmin.info/noframes/faqget.asp#password


--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx

 

[*Vanguard*]

"Josef Stalin" said in news:[email protected]:

Tsk, tsk. You're presuming. There's a thousand ways to take legal
possession of a computer without knowing its history.

<snip>

And if there is any vague or missing critical information for supporting
or providing a full copy of the software then the installation media and
all supplemental information MUST be provided which includes the product
key. The buyer then has to perform a reinstall using the provided
installation media.

And, tsk, tsk, the examples you provide are the exceptions. Most used
computers are not sold by representatives of dead people. Regardless of
the emotional problems in a person's life, like divorce, they are still
not allowed to hold hostage anything they sell. If they sold off their
car (which was not involved in a custody dispute) they are still
required to transfer the ownership, and forgetting to include the pink
slip is not an option regardless of emotional stress. Items getting
auctioned from a going-out-of-business sale or for seized items cannot
sell those computers under the precept that the OS is pre-installed. In
those cases, the computer is sold as "polluted" in that the hard drive
was not wiped clean but the buyer is expected to perform that function
and install a fresh instance of the OS with the included installation or
restoration media.

Buying a computer in which the operating system and/or applications have
been merely left on the hard drive does NOT equate to buying that item
with that software "pre-installed." It's just a dirty drive that the
seller was too lazy or unable to wipe and you are expected to install a
fresh copy of the OS provided the sale actually included a copy. I've
seen many sales, even from tech companies that should know better, that
sold off their old inventory under the premise that the OS was included,
but was included was a dirty drive with the OS left on it and the OS
never was included in the sale.

 

[Shirley]

Hey, you guys might be having fun but what about bmerz4?
Are you going to tell him/her that he will simply have to
go out and buy an OS?

 

[Josef Stalin]

And if there is any vague or missing critical information for supporting
or providing a full copy of the software then the installation media and
all supplemental information MUST be provided which includes the product

MUST? State law? Federal law? Please cite your references.

key. The buyer then has to perform a reinstall using the provided
installation media.

And, tsk, tsk, the examples you provide are the exceptions. Most used
computers are not sold by representatives of dead people.

Most? Please cite where you obtained your statistics from.

Regardless of
the emotional problems in a person's life, like divorce, they are still
not allowed to hold hostage anything they sell. If they sold off their
car (which was not involved in a custody dispute) they are still
required to transfer the ownership, and forgetting to include the pink
slip is not an option regardless of emotional stress.

Not allowed? What stopping them? Federal law? State law? International
law? God?
To most people, a computer is nothing more than a toaster. Geeks may be
fascinated to no end by EULA's but the ordinary person couldn't care less.
Not an option, hmmmm. What are the consequences? Deportation to France?

Items getting
auctioned from a going-out-of-business sale or for seized items cannot
sell those computers under the precept that the OS is pre-installed.

There you go again with your absolutes. "Cannot". Only tyrannical
dictators like myself are allowed such pleasures. You have absolutely no
idea what you're talking about.

In
those cases, the computer is sold as "polluted" in that the hard drive
was not wiped clean but the buyer is expected to perform that function
and install a fresh instance of the OS with the included installation or
restoration media.

Buying a computer in which the operating system and/or applications have
been merely left on the hard drive does NOT equate to buying that item
with that software "pre-installed." It's just a dirty drive that the
seller was too lazy or unable to wipe and you are expected to install a
fresh copy of the OS provided the sale actually included a copy. I've
seen many sales, even from tech companies that should know better, that
sold off their old inventory under the premise that the OS was included,
but was included was a dirty drive with the OS left on it and the OS
never was included in the sale.

Jeez. I could go on, but I think you've spent way too much time in some
dark, dirty office and you need to get some sunshine on your pallid face,
little fella. I picture piles of dirty pizza boxes around your desk.

 

[*Vanguard*]

"Josef Stalin" said in news:[email protected]:

MUST? State law? Federal law? Please cite your references.

UCC (Universal Commercial Code) in addition to existing state laws
regarding fitness and usability. Anarchists always claim they are not
under any obligation to be moral or even social. Every self-proclaimed
anarchaist that I've met is just a wannabe anarchist and follows the
rules and laws, anyway.

Most? Please cite where you obtained your statistics from.

And the statistics for your contrived examples came from?

Not allowed? What stopping them? Federal law? State law?

Yep, the law. Take 'em to court, put a lien on their property in
proportion to the value you consider is being hostaged and then let them
sue you to prove you shouldn't have put a lien on their property. EULAs
are irrelevant in this discussion. I'm talking about getting the
password from the SELLER of the computer that bmerz bought, the same
SELLER who claimed to include a valid and legal copy of the operating
system (and whatever other software was left on the polluted hard
drive).

Jeez. I could go on, but I think you've spent way too much time in
some dark, dirty office and you need to get some sunshine on your
pallid face, little fella. I picture piles of dirty pizza boxes
around your desk.

Well, at least, I'm not whining about OE or Outlook not having a slide
show function anymore so I can peruse subscribed daily e-mailings of
porn using one hand to click through the pics while using the other for
self gratification.

Guess it's time to discontinue our fruitless discussion since you opted
to devolve into insults. I'm not really into one upmanship in insults
but I couldn't resist one equally peurile retort.

 

[*Vanguard*]

"Shirley" said in news:[email protected]:

Hey, you guys might be having fun but what about bmerz4?
Are you going to tell him/her that he will simply have to
go out and buy an OS?

Already answered yesterday by Tolgier who provided a link to a password
recovery document. I figured someone would come along and provide this
well-known link to bmerz4. However, getting the password from the
seller, if doable, would probably be a much easier way of getting the
task done much more quickly. Just ask.

 

[Gary Smith]

Yep, the law. Take 'em to court, put a lien on their property in
proportion to the value you consider is being hostaged and then let them
sue you to prove you shouldn't have put a lien on their property. EULAs
are irrelevant in this discussion. I'm talking about getting the
password from the SELLER of the computer that bmerz bought, the same
SELLER who claimed to include a valid and legal copy of the operating
system (and whatever other software was left on the polluted hard
drive).

You're making a lot of assumptions here. Perhaps the seller didn't claim
anything at all regarding the operating system. Perhaps the seller didn't
have the right to resell a copy of the OS and really intended only to sell
the hardward. I've bought machines that way. If that's the case, the
buyer is going to have to buy a fresh copy.

Maybe the seller can no longer be found, or just doesn't care. The
chances of any sort of legal action being effective are minuscule. Of
course, if the buyer has a bill of sale which states that a valid copy of
the operating system is included, legal remedies may work, but even that's
no guarantee. It also helps to have a lawyer who will work for free.

 

[*Vanguard*]

"Gary Smith" said in news:[email protected]:

You're making a lot of assumptions here. Perhaps the seller didn't
claim anything at all regarding the operating system. Perhaps the
seller didn't have the right to resell a copy of the OS and really
intended only to sell the hardward. I've bought machines that way.
If that's the case, the buyer is going to have to buy a fresh copy.

That was one of my points. Buying hardware that is "dirty" doesn't mean
the software on the hard drive(s) was actually included in the sale.
About a year ago my aunt purchased a computer from Medtronic who sold it
off in an employee auction to eliminate old inventory. When I checked,
she did NOT get a legal copy of Windows. The software was on the drive
but it was simply that Medtronics never wiped the disk. The gear was
being sold off by their IT dept. who should've known better. In the
auction, the unit was advertised for its hardware and included Windows.
When she took it back, they recognized immediately that they had screwed
up and that Windows was not really included and they refunded her money.
Their IT dept. got rid of it but did not wipe the disk (which can leave
them legally liable) and someone else down the sales path figured, "Hey,
there's stuff still on the hard drive so it must be included", or,
probably more accurately, just foolishly said Windows was included and
never checked. When buying any computers at any auction and regardless
of how intelligent should be the seller or prior owner getting rid of
the gear, it is still "buyer beware" and it is the buyer that must

Maybe the seller can no longer be found, or just doesn't care. The
chances of any sort of legal action being effective are minuscule. Of
course, if the buyer has a bill of sale which states that a valid
copy of the operating system is included, legal remedies may work,
but even that's no guarantee. It also helps to have a lawyer who
will work for free.

PrePaid Legal. Cheap and present in almost every state (if in the USA).
If you sue, you sue in their state but using Prepaid means you never
have to go to that state. You just get one of their nearby lawyers to
handle it. You do have to weight the cost of the lawyer against the
value of the item. $500 for a lawyer to file and show up once in
conciliatory court won't be cost effective if the software costs less
than $500. If you break even, great. You may decide to teach the other
party a lesson depending on how much you're willing to pay for the
lesson; i.e., they may not care, so decide if you want to make them
care. If, however, you made a volume purchase then $500 for lawyer to
recoup $3000 is productive but will consume time. You not persuing
whatever avenues of recovery is your choice. If you're not even willing
to call their State Attorney's office to invesitigate your possible
recovery then don't bitch about not having any recovery. If you don't
even vote, don't bitch about politics since you choose not to even make
the smallest effort to effect a change.

It really comes down to from whom bmerz4 got his computer that allegedly
included a legal copy of the operating system. When bmerz4 responds
then we'll have more specific advice. Otherwise, all we can offer is
vague advice for a vague question. Torgeir already provided the link on
general info on how to recover from a lost password. That may have been
sufficient for bmerz4 and will never see him/her again in this thread.
But then bmerz4 may have already found a solution and like with most
users never return to provide an updated status. Since this is
apparently bmerz4's only post in newsgroups, I doubt will see him/her
again.

I wasn't trying to provide every conceivable method of recovery from a
lost password. I offered one solution that is often very easy and very
fast. Just ask the person that sold you the stuff. You might get a
good answer, you might not. You won't know until you ask. You won't
know that they won't respond, can't respond, or don't know how to
respond until you ask. Just ask! If you have the time to post here
(and then try the solutions or read whatever else is recommended) then
certainly you have the time to try asking the seller.

 

[William W. Plummer]

"(e-mail address removed)" said in


Get the password for the Administrator account from the person who sold
you the used PC. If indeed they did include a legal copy of Windows in
the sale then they are not allowed to hold your property as hostage.

Call Microsoft support and explain the problem. If it is a legal,
registered copy, MS will re-register it for you. Otherwise, you will have
to purchase a new copy and install it.