Acrobat Reader 7 is better than 6

I

Iain Cheyne

I uninstalled v6 and installed v7.0 today. It is a definite improvement. It
is noticeably faster and the search function is much more usable.

My only quibble is that it installs itself in your startup folder, which
eats precious memory and slows down your computer's boot times. To get rid
of it, simply delete it from Start/Programs/Startup.

I also used Adobe Reader Speed-Up on it and it worked fine, disabling lots
of useless plugins, which speeded it up even more.

http://tnk-bootblock.co.uk/getfile.php?id=arsu
 
M

Matias

Iain said:
I uninstalled v6 and installed v7.0 today. It is a definite improvement. It
is noticeably faster and the search function is much more usable.

I also used Adobe Reader Speed-Up on it and it worked fine, disabling lots
of useless plugins, which speeded it up even more.
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Version 5.0.5 still works like a charm!
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
M

Michael Laplante

Matias said:
Version 5.0.5 still works like a charm!
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Concur. I still use ver 4 and haven't come across a doc it wouldn't
correctly display yet.

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B

Bebop & Rocksteady

Concur. I still use ver 4 and haven't come across a doc it wouldn't
correctly display yet.
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I agree... have full version of acrobat and no intentions of upgrading
why would you want to put an audio file in a doc or video, get presentation
software
 
T

Tritoneur

Iain said:
I uninstalled v6 and installed v7.0 today. It is a definite
improvement. It is noticeably faster and the search function is much
more usable.

My only quibble is that it installs itself in your startup folder,
which eats precious memory and slows down your computer's boot times.
To get rid of it, simply delete it from Start/Programs/Startup.

I also used Adobe Reader Speed-Up on it and it worked fine, disabling
lots of useless plugins, which speeded it up even more.

http://tnk-bootblock.co.uk/getfile.php?id=arsu
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In the startup folder it refers to 'Adobe Reader Speed Launch', and it does
launch very quickly, after the first time, without using Adobe Reader Speed
Up, which I know, having used it previously. Maybe that has something to do
with it? I have left it in for now to see how it goes.
 
M

MLC

_Tritoneur_, venerdì 31/dic/2004:
In the startup folder it refers to 'Adobe Reader Speed Launch', and it does
launch very quickly, after the first time, without using Adobe Reader Speed
Up, which I know, having used it previously. Maybe that has something to do
with it?
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Yes, it is 'Adobe Reader Speed Launch', whose process you can see in the
Task Manager as "reader_sl.exe". It takes only 2332 KB of memory and really
speed up the Acrobat Reader. I'm seeing a big improvement in this v7.0.
I have left it in for now to see how it goes.
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I leave it in. What I can't understand, instead, is why, after a while, this
reader_sl.exe silently unload itself from the running processes.
Did you notice it you too?
 
T

Tritoneur

MLC said:
I leave it in. What I can't understand, instead, is why, after a
while, this reader_sl.exe silently unload itself from the running
processes.
Did you notice it you too?
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I didn't look for that process after install, but does not appear in my
running processes now.

When I opened AR 7 the first time, it took some while to load, like the
previous versions. It seemed to be loading plug-ins. I didn't pay very much
attention at the time, but I noticed how much quicker it was when i opened
it the next time. Maybe the plug-in process has been streamlined somehow?

Anyway, it seems to work more efficiently than AR 6!
 
I

Iain Cheyne

More Acrobat Reader 7 tips here:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/007183.html

* Don't download from the Adobe site or any other Web page. Go directly to
the Adobe FTP and get the 12MB package (unless you want the big fat package
with the Yahoo Companion and lots of other garbage.) The file you want is
AdbeRdr70_enu.ex.

* Now, you'll probably notice a small banner ad in the top right corner. To
remove that, just go to Edit->Preferences->Startup and uncheck the item
labeled "Show messages and automatically update".

* If you see a small Yahoo button on the toolbar, you can remove it by
right-clicking and unchecking the "Search the Internet" item.

* One downside is that when you open a PDF link in your browser,
Acroread.exe stays in memory. You can kill the process or start and exit
the full app to pull it from memory. If that's too much of a pain, I
recommend doing what I did which is to just tell Acrobat to launch the full
app rather than the browser plugin. To do this, start Acrobat Reader, go to
Edit->Preferences->Internet and uncheck the box labeled "Display PDF in
browser". This solves the in memory problem and I think makes for a
generally better user experience.
 
K

Kerry Liles

Reader v7 does not support versions of Windows based on 9x (nor 3x either
for that matter) - at least it doesn't install a whole bunch of trash and
then fail to run or uninstall properly...
 
B

Bebop & Rocksteady

You mightn't, but if your boss does it you have to be able to open it.
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i am the boss...

and there are better applications for this that were designed to do it and
not as an after thought..

PDF was designed for the printing industry all it is, is a compressed EPS
file... and that it should stay as, as it does a good job at.
 
O

Octavian

Bebop & Rocksteady said:
i am the boss...

and there are better applications for this that were designed to do it and
not as an after thought..

PDF was designed for the printing industry all it is, is a compressed EPS
file... and that it should stay as, as it does a good job at.
Click to expand...

Too bad Acrobat doesn't provide the ability to write proper sentences.
 
B

Bebop & Rocksteady

Too bad Acrobat doesn't provide the ability to write proper sentences.
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You can correct minor things but again its not designed for that...
Use the app that created the document in the first place... how hard is
that... unless you are steeling the document you should always keep the
original file...

The whole idea behind a PDF is so that it cant be altered, and that the
document will still be the same when the printers open the file on a
different system, platform etc... they cant accidently alter the layout
etc... What part of that don't you people get sheese... printers dont need an
embeded audio or video file. If I want the audio/video file send me an mp3 or
mpeg file... If I want to use it as a presentation use the correct tool

All it means is the files are getting bigger, which is defeating the other
purpose of the PDF, a compressed EPS file
 
R

Roger Johansson

You can correct minor things but again its not designed for that...
Use the app that created the document in the first place... how hard
is that... unless you are steeling the document you should always keep
the original file...
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What you say is that the PDF format is used to hinder others from
accessing the information easily, as they could have if txt format or
html format had been used?
The whole idea behind a PDF is so that it cant be altered, and that the
Click to expand...

You say that PDF is used to stop people from changing the layout or
information?
document will still be the same when the printers open the file on a
different system, platform etc... they cant accidently alter the layout
etc... What part of that don't you people get sheese...
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In our web browsers we have settings allowing the user to ignore the
layout, colors, fonts, etc of the web page so the user can use his own
preferred fonts, sizes, colors, layout. We also have very popular
programs like Proxomitron to change the layout and fonts of web pages to
better suit the users needs.

Why do you think we want to change the layout of web pages?

Because the end user may prefer, or need, another layout to be able to
read the web page. The "web designer" does not always choose a layout
which suits everybody.

HTML was actually invented for the precise reason that the end user often
want or need another layout than the author or "web designer" has
supplied.

All it means is the files are getting bigger, which is defeating the
other purpose of the PDF, a compressed EPS file
Click to expand...

PDF files are usually ten times bigger than the same information in html
format.
 
B

Bebop & Rocksteady

PDF files are usually ten times bigger than the same information in html
format.
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after all that blabbling what has HTML got to do with PDF... ????
 
O

Octavian

Bebop & Rocksteady said:
after all that blabbling what has HTML got to do with PDF... ????
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Agreed. And even if you disregard the OT aspect, his statements are
still nonsense:
HTML was actually invented for the precise reason that the
end user often want or need another layout than the author
or "web designer" has supplied.
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Nonsense. HTML was invented to enable document sharing across
platforms. In the late 1980s, mainframes, minis, PCs, and Macs
had no reasonable way to communicate. The beauty of the web was
that existing socket connection technology over TCP/IP could be
used, and the new message "standard" (HTML) enabled a client to
pull a document from a remote server, regardless of platform.

The formatting of the results were unpredictable. But in those
days, that was okay. Prior to that, the only mechanism for document
exchange was plain text! That's easy to edit for content, but
hard to format for appearance. So HTML was a big step forward.

That the layout on your client was not exactly what the author
intended didn't matter. And your ability to change it was even
more limited that with plain text!
 
R

Roger Johansson

Nonsense. HTML was invented to enable document sharing across
platforms. In the late 1980s, mainframes, minis, PCs, and Macs
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You have missed one of the big advantages of a mark up language like HTML
or the newer XML. The content and the layout are kept separate, to allow
the end user to adapt the layout to his own needs or wishes, and to
different hardware and software environments.

The layout the author has created is more a suggestion, a structure, not
a final layout.

For example:
There are markup tags like H1 H2 H3 H4 for different font sizes. But H1
H2 etc are not fixed to a certain pixel size or certain number of
millimeters, exactly because the end user may want or need to apply his
sizes to the different headings in different situations.
 
O

Octavian

Roger Johansson said:
You have missed one of the big advantages of a mark up language like HTML
or the newer XML. The content and the layout are kept separate, to allow
the end user to adapt the layout to his own needs or wishes, and to
different hardware and software environments.

The layout the author has created is more a suggestion, a structure, not
a final layout.
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Sure, that's the story today. I was replying to an earlier post in
which the invention was touted as being something it was not.
 

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