About that free copy of Abby FineReader 4.0

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Wow! That is good. I have been using Omnipage 9.0 (inherited with the
scanner I bought years ago!) and as far as errors are concerned this is
much much better.

Very nice indeed. Thanks!
 
They don't email it to you. I entered a fictitious email address in
their form, and the registration number appeared right after I submitted
it.

I entered a legit email address and got the reg number ok - what I'm
not clear about is whether or not I now have to register online.

I opened ABBYY and then clicked on HELP -> WEB ADDRESSES -> ONLINE
REGISTRATION and ended up at this page:

http://regold.abbyy.com/reg/reg_step_2_eng.asp?ClassID=1

Do I need to fill this in? will there be future problems if I don't?
(er, if I do need to fill it in do I select "Fine Reader Sprint" or
what?)

Thanks!
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John said:
I entered a legit email address and got the reg number ok - what I'm
not clear about is whether or not I now have to register online. (snip)

No, you don't. All you have to do is to enter the number you get. You do
this during program installation. As for registration, it's the same as
with most other programs... they're just trying to milk you for
demographic information. Registration won't benefit you in any way. I
shined it on and there haven't been any negative repercussions.

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SamF. said:
Does Abby FineReader 4.0 scan PDF files?

'Fraid not. However, you can copy images of a .pdf file to the
clipboard, paste them into images and then have the program OCR that or
those images. Kinda tedious, but better than nothing. The program will
only OCR the following file types from what I can tell:

..pac, .bmp, .pcx, .dcx, .jpg, .png, .tif

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'Fraid not. However, you can copy images of a .pdf file to the
clipboard, paste them into images and then have the program OCR that or
those images. Kinda tedious, but better than nothing. The program will
only OCR the following file types from what I can tell:

.pac, .bmp, .pcx, .dcx, .jpg, .png, .tif

I'm not yet familiar enough with Abby, having only done a quick test
to see if it worked with my scanner on a cutout of a newspaper article
(which it did, sort of). But I do know OCR since I worked
professionally back in the late sixties and early seventies developing
OCR products. I'm going to nitpick your use of the term OCR.

First of all, your last sentence is gibberish. File types aren't
OCRed, they are optional ways the program will store graphical
images.

OCR means Optical Character Recognition with the word "character"
underlined. OCR, by definiiton, does not recognize images. It seems
though that Abby does recognize" them in the limited sense that it
senses the difference between a graphical field and a field of
characters. Or it least it tires to. It then seems to create a image
file of the graphical field and, of course, it generates character
codes for characters it can recognize.

Now, in the case of scanning printed PDF documents, it would be
no different (that I can see) than scanning any other document
containing both characters and images. It would boil down to the
font used when the document was printed, and whether or not
Abby can deal with the particular font well enough. As long
as Abby can manage to separate out image fields from character
fields and recognize the font, it should work. The probem I saw
on my quick newspaper article check was that it had some difficulty
separating a "picture" (graphic) field from the text, which was
understandable (and quite forgiveable in this case).

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Now, in the case of scanning printed PDF documents, it would be
no different (that I can see) than scanning any other document
containing both characters and images. It would boil down to the
font used when the document was printed, and whether or not
Abby can deal with the particular font well enough. As long
as Abby can manage to separate out image fields from character
fields and recognize the font, it should work. The probem I saw
on my quick newspaper article check was that it had some difficulty
separating a "picture" (graphic) field from the text, which was
understandable (and quite forgiveable in this case).

As an afterthought, I think I might see where a communication
problem lies. Maybe when the PDF question comes up
and is answered the way Corliss anwered, people are talking about
the formats Abby can use to file a scanned document. Since it
can store them as Word docs, you can probably scan a PDF
document, store it as a Word doc, and use Word to PDF
conversion sw if that's what you want.

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Art said:
As an afterthought, I think I might see where a communication
problem lies. Maybe when the PDF question comes up
and is answered the way Corliss anwered, people are talking about
the formats Abby can use to file a scanned document. Since it
can store them as Word docs, you can probably scan a PDF
document, store it as a Word doc, and use Word to PDF
conversion sw if that's what you want.

In Abby FineReader 4.0, you can open any of the file types I mentioned
and if they're graphic image files resulting from a scan of printed text
(or even if they're not, in this program) you can press the button
labeled "Recognize" to have the program perform optical character
recognition on the file.

You can NOT open a .pdf file and have it run recognition on it, however.

Apparently we have a communication problem. I'll try to clarify what I
meant.

1. You open a .pdf file in Acrobat Reader
2. You use the "Select tool" to select some text and to copy it
to the clipboard.
3. You open your favorite graphics program (I'll use Photofiltre for
this example) and use the "Text" tool to put the text in a new graphics
file and then save it. You could also past the text into a word
processing program (and this would probably be a better way to do it)
and then do a screenshot of that text, then paste the screenshot into a
new graphics image file in the graphics program.
4. Save the graphics file in one of the formats that Abby FineReader can
open, making sure that the resolution of the image is 300 to (I forget,
but I think) 600 dpi.
5. Open Abby Finereader and in that program, open the file you saved.
6. Run recognition on it.

Is that more clear?

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Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc (who uses sock puppets)
for instance. No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware,
demoware, nagware, PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited
software, trialware, viruses or warez for me, please.
 
In Abby FineReader 4.0, you can open any of the file types I mentioned
and if they're graphic image files resulting from a scan of printed text
(or even if they're not, in this program) you can press the button
labeled "Recognize" to have the program perform optical character
recognition on the file.

You can NOT open a .pdf file and have it run recognition on it, however.

Apparently we have a communication problem. I'll try to clarify what I
meant.

1. You open a .pdf file in Acrobat Reader
2. You use the "Select tool" to select some text and to copy it
to the clipboard.
3. You open your favorite graphics program (I'll use Photofiltre for
this example) and use the "Text" tool to put the text in a new graphics
file and then save it. You could also past the text into a word
processing program (and this would probably be a better way to do it)
and then do a screenshot of that text, then paste the screenshot into a
new graphics image file in the graphics program.
4. Save the graphics file in one of the formats that Abby FineReader can
open, making sure that the resolution of the image is 300 to (I forget,
but I think) 600 dpi.
5. Open Abby Finereader and in that program, open the file you saved.
6. Run recognition on it.

Is that more clear?

Yes :)

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
No, you don't. All you have to do is to enter the number you get. You do
this during program installation. As for registration, it's the same as
with most other programs... they're just trying to milk you for
demographic information. Registration won't benefit you in any way. I
shined it on and there haven't been any negative repercussions.

Okey-doke - thanks John!
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'Where Darwin meets Lamarck?' Discussion Egroup:
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Evolution Research Blog:
http://evomech.blogspot.com/
 
Tried to obtain a registration code this morning and all I get is a
server error. Any idea whether they are still providing free
registration for v4?

Alan
 
arehrlich wrote:

Tried to obtain a registration code this morning and all I get is a
server error. Any idea whether they are still providing free
registration for v4?

Alan

Alan;

When trying to register, I get the following: "ODBC Drivers Error
80004005." According to MS, "The Global.asa file is not located in the
root directory of the application."

Of course, this worked last month when I registered so I don't know if
this was done intentionally to shut things down or they broke the set-up.

hth,
-Craig
 
Thanks Craig, I'm going to keep trying. The comments on the software
look good and I can make good use of it.

Alan
 
For those of you who missed it, it's here:

http://www.ilsoftware.it/articoli.asp?ID=2904

I did the download, registered (no real vital info required) and got
the registration code. If memory serves, I didn't really have to
provide info to get the code. Feel it out though. Translating the site
and running a concurrent untranslated window helps a lot.

This morning I finally got around to installing the program and it's
GREAT! If you don't have an OCR program and want one, I recommend
downloading this one. It's not small (58 mb) but it's sure worth it.

During the installation, you're able to select the language or
languages you want, and the default is English

This is a great opportunity to get a free OCR program, and it's the
professional version.

Any support for OO.o? I am not a MS Office user (obvious reasons) and
Simple OCR was horrid in OO.o .


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