A question of Windows Program downloads being huge...?

[oc9ine]

Hi,

I have been using Windows line of Operating system all the way from
Windows 3.1 upto Vista and now Windows 7.

(1) There is one thing I always noticed that whenever I downloaded a
program for Windows from Microsoft its size was almost always huge
for example recently released free antivirus solution called Morro
was whooping 150 MB or so comparing it with industry leading
antivirus software Eset Nod32 4 which is just 30 MB download; My
question is that when all the things like required system dlls, resource
files are present in the Windows system then Why the hack Microsoft's
own program for Windows becomes so huge like Morro?
Is it that They just package everything in it and re-invent the wheel
and do not trust their Windows system installed at the user side.

(2)When we install any new Windows offering it is almost always around 6
or 7 GB full install size. But when we install any Linux offering it is
almost always 4 GB to 7 GB full install with all the necessary GAMES,
OFFICE PRODUCTS, SYSTEM UTILITIES, NETWORK CONFIG UTILS, PROGRAMMING
TOOLS ALMOST ALL, MULTIMEDIA PROGRAMS AND WHAT NOT - installed in one go
and they are now industry standard and very usable.

My question is that when we spend say more than 300 bucks for mere BARE
BONES SHELL of Windows which is always bug ridden and comes with a high
requirements and there in linux world we get the whole world for
peanuts, WHY? Why Microsoft is paying millions to a army of programmers
who are always just churning out a barebones shell Operating system with
mere Aero and glass effects thrown in? Where is Utility which we are
looking for?

Regards,

Oc9ine.

 

[Alias]

EsetNod32 is a "leading AV software"?

Most people never heard of your African tribe-made ware.

Last I checked, Slovakia is not in Africa but Europe. The San Diego,
California head office is, last I checked, in the USA, not in Africa.

How long have you been a bigot?

Alias

 

[Guest]

Not as big as me.

 

[fatsteve]

(2)When we install any new Windows offering it is almost always around 6
or 7 GB full install size. But when we install any Linux offering it is
almost always 4 GB to 7 GB full install with all the necessary GAMES,
OFFICE PRODUCTS, SYSTEM UTILITIES, NETWORK CONFIG UTILS, PROGRAMMING
TOOLS ALMOST ALL, MULTIMEDIA PROGRAMS AND WHAT NOT - installed in one go
and they are now industry standard and very usable.

Most people these days have at least a 160gb HD. You think it is
unreasonable that the operating system takes up less than 5% of that
hard drive? I have 500gb main drive which is also not uncommon, thats
around 1.5% used up by the operating system. (or 1% since my vista
install is less than 5gb, but I'll use your "7gb full install size" for
the example) i.e it's **** all.

 

[Jon]

EsetNod32 is a "leading AV software"?

Most people never heard of your African tribe-made ware.

Most people haven't heard of Africa.

 

[JEWboy]

EsetNod32 is a "leading AV software"?

Most people never heard of your African tribe-made ware.

 

[JEWboy]

Size is not an issue today. yes it's growing, but that's good for me - it
increases hardware & networks requirements which I happen to indirectly
design or work for. It's good fo rjobs creation.

Here's a typical example:
If there's a new OS requiring a minimum of 16GB memory, that would benefit
Taiwanese economy since the world seems to have assigned them the role of
Memory Maker.
The sooner we trash this planet with ever-incresing consumption, the
better - we all get to see Jesus sooner.

 

[Mark Adams]

Hi,

I have been using Windows line of Operating system all the way from
Windows 3.1 upto Vista and now Windows 7.

(1) There is one thing I always noticed that whenever I downloaded a
program for Windows from Microsoft its size was almost always huge
for example recently released free antivirus solution called Morro
was whooping 150 MB or so comparing it with industry leading
antivirus software Eset Nod32 4 which is just 30 MB download; My
question is that when all the things like required system dlls, resource
files are present in the Windows system then Why the hack Microsoft's
own program for Windows becomes so huge like Morro?
Is it that They just package everything in it and re-invent the wheel
and do not trust their Windows system installed at the user side.

(2)When we install any new Windows offering it is almost always around 6
or 7 GB full install size. But when we install any Linux offering it is
almost always 4 GB to 7 GB full install with all the necessary GAMES,
OFFICE PRODUCTS, SYSTEM UTILITIES, NETWORK CONFIG UTILS, PROGRAMMING
TOOLS ALMOST ALL, MULTIMEDIA PROGRAMS AND WHAT NOT - installed in one go
and they are now industry standard and very usable.

My question is that when we spend say more than 300 bucks for mere BARE
BONES SHELL of Windows which is always bug ridden and comes with a high
requirements and there in linux world we get the whole world for
peanuts, WHY? Why Microsoft is paying millions to a army of programmers
who are always just churning out a barebones shell Operating system with
mere Aero and glass effects thrown in? Where is Utility which we are
looking for?

Regards,

Oc9ine.

So, why are you still using Windows operating systems all the way up to
Windows 7?

 

[Over Easy, ESQ]

Most people haven't heard of Africa.

Maybe in the circle of people you hang out with!

 

[Over Easy, ESQ]

Because Windows rules.

To bad you don't!

 

[JEWboy]

Since I got Ubuntu.

Frank.

 

[JEWboy]

Because Windows rules.

 

[nomore]

You can use Linux and spend all day futzing with the OS and spinning the
propeller pinned to the end of your member or you can use Windows and spend
most of the day futzing with the OS but actually get some real work done in
between because there are actual business and productivity programs to use
with Windows and nothing but amateur hack crippleware to use with Linux.
Gimp is the most correctly named piece of software ever foisted on the
naïve.

 

[Alias]

You can use Linux and spend all day futzing with the OS and spinning the
propeller pinned to the end of your member or you can use Windows and
spend most of the day futzing with the OS but actually get some real
work done in between because there are actual business and productivity
programs to use with Windows and nothing but amateur hack crippleware to
use with Linux.
Gimp is the most correctly named piece of software ever foisted on the
naïve.

Bullshit.

Alias

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

(1) There is one thing I always noticed that whenever I downloaded a
program for Windows from Microsoft its size was almost always huge
for example recently released free antivirus solution called Morro
was whooping 150 MB or so comparing it with industry leading
antivirus software Eset Nod32 4 which is just 30 MB download; My
question is that when all the things like required system dlls, resource
files are present in the Windows system then Why the hack Microsoft's
own program for Windows becomes so huge like Morro?
Is it that They just package everything in it and re-invent the wheel
and do not trust their Windows system installed at the user side.

Please note that what you call "a whooping 150 MB or so," actually
uses what is a *tiny* amount of disk space these days.

To pick a typical, not-too-large drive, these days a 250GB drive costs
around $50 US. That means that 150MB is about 3 cents worth of disk
space. That's hardly something to get upset about.

Choose whatever program you prefer, but don't make the choice based on
pennies.

 

[Over Easy, ESQ]

Bullshit.

Alias

It's true Ubuntu is crippleware and Gimp is appropriately named. Open
Soures software is worth what you pay for it: NOTHING.

Ubuntu is FREE and still NOBODY wants it. Ubuntu was written by geeks for
geeks who can't get laid.

If you want to do real work you need a real operating system. Windows
works great to get work done.

Ubuntu is just fine for wasting time.

 

[Over Easy, ESQ]

Please note that what you call "a whooping 150 MB or so," actually
uses what is a *tiny* amount of disk space these days.

To pick a typical, not-too-large drive, these days a 250GB drive costs
around $50 US. That means that 150MB is about 3 cents worth of disk
space. That's hardly something to get upset about.

Choose whatever program you prefer, but don't make the choice based on
pennies.

Unless all you have is pennies then Ubuntu is your correct choice.

 

[Alias]

It's true Ubuntu is crippleware and Gimp is appropriately named. Open
Soures software is worth what you pay for it: NOTHING.
Bullshit.


Ubuntu is FREE and still NOBODY wants it. Ubuntu was written by geeks for
geeks who can't get laid.
Bullshit.


If you want to do real work you need a real operating system. Windows
works great to get work done.
Bullshit.


Ubuntu is just fine for wasting time.
Bullshit.

Want a cracker, Polly? All you do is repeat the same tired lies.

Alias