A patch for Windows Vista

[Guest]

I use Vista on one PC and XP on the other three I have setup at home. I love
the Vista system, I have no problems and the features work great. I would
recommend upgrading to Vista if you have the chance. I read this NG everyday
and I always wonder why do people that hate Vista even post here? I work for
a wireless company with over 64,000 employees and we have started to upgrade
to Vista and we are running without many issues. I am almost positive that I
will be called (Vistafanboy) or something like that. I am also downloading
Linux at this time to test on a old computer I use at home...I will then
decide what is better suited for my needs.
--
Thanks
Glen

;509047']Service Pack 1 is due sometime the 1st half of 2008.

So, JJ, are you telling us that for the next five or six months those
of us who were unfortunate enough to "upgrade" to this new OS
are going to more or less be without a reliable computer system?
Helluva way to run a railroad, wouldn't you agree?'Default PLESK Page'
(http:///quote)]

 

[MICHAEL]

Just stating facts, sorry you're too stupid to see that.

Your expanded drivel to Charlie added nothing of consequence.
Sorry that you need to be slapped about the face to understand.
Would you prefer a punch in the throat?


-Michael

 

[Kevin Weaver]

When a PC goes wrong the first thing we blame is the operating system. Why
we
do this is simple - we have been programmed to bash the operating system
as
the de-facto cause of all our problems. I'm surprised that when the
television goes on the blink everybody does rise in unison and shout '
that's
Microsoft's fault!'

Windows is only a 'part' of the equation. Microsoft don't make the drivers
for the hardware in your PC, the hardware manufacturer does. If they don't
integrate with Windows correctly then they simply won't work correctly.
The
end result is either a crashed PC or a piece of hardware/software that
doesn't work as it should - but, of course, as usual, it's Microsoft's
fault!

Actually, my desktop pc blew up two weeks ago. I was using Windows Vista
at
the time, so, i suppose, i can blame Microsoft for that too! Well it was
their blasted software that was in use when it happened. The true fact of
the
matter was that a power spike knocked out the motherboard and just about
everything else and that had nothing to do with Microsoft. However, a new
PC
and UPS soon reduced the anger.

Vista Service pack 1 is due for release in the 1st quarter of 2008;
hopefully it will solve many of the current problems users are having with
Vista; sadly it probably won't cure all, but the more time it spends in
beta
testing the better it will become; so patience i think is the watch word.

If you machine is not working as it should, by all means blame the
operating
system if it makes you feel better, but also look for other options as
well.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

;509047']Service Pack 1 is due sometime the 1st half of 2008.

So, JJ, are you telling us that for the next five or six months those
of us who were unfortunate enough to "upgrade" to this new OS
are going to more or less be without a reliable computer system?
Helluva way to run a railroad, wouldn't you agree?'Default PLESK Page'
(http:///quote)]

What about some of us that bought this day one. Already been 1 year and
still have to wait another 4-6 months or longer to see if it's going to be
fixed.
What about the drivers that get Microsoft's stamp, AKA WHQL ? There testing
it (Microsoft) I've seen some drivers that have the WHQL on them and there
still screwed.

 

[Kevin Weaver]

Incorrect. A service pack is a roll up of existing patches, if the
machine is fully up to date it's unlikely a service pack will fix a
problem. Service packs that introduce major changes such as SP2 for XP
are the very rare exception.

People who think a service pack will fix a problem are almost always
going to be disappointed, if you have problems and your machine is
fully updated, fix the problems BEFORE installing a service pack.

So tell us how to fix a OS Problem if Microsoft can't fix it ?

 

[XS11E]

Your expanded drivel to Charlie added nothing of consequence.

My post was to correct Charlie's incorrect statement, again, sorry
you're too stupid to understand that.

Sorry that you need to be slapped about the face to understand.
Would you prefer a punch in the throat?

You sure talk big for a 12 year old Usenet newbie twit.
I guess we can add "obnoxious twit" to "stupid" when describing you.

Welcome to my bozo bin, I'm sure you'll find plenty of other fools like
yourself there.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"A service pack is a roll up of existing patches"
And to a large degree a patch "fixes known issues".
So obviously a Service Pack fixes know issues.
And that is what Charlie said.
So Charlie is not "Incorrect".

"if the machine is fully up to date"
That does not change the fact that a Service Pack fixes know issues.

What else a Service Pack may do is not always known in detail until
released.

Read all of Charlie's post, not just the first paragraph.

 

[MICHAEL]

My post was to correct Charlie's incorrect statement,

Charlie was not incorrect, pudden-head.

again, sorry

Yes, I realize you are sorry.... now apologize for ignorance.

you're too stupid to understand that.

I completely understand that my toe jam has a better
grasp of the facts than you do.

You sure talk big for a 12 year old Usenet newbie twit.

Thanks. Taking you to the woodshed would be joy, joy.

I guess we can add "obnoxious twit" to "stupid" when describing you.

Please do, and thanks.

Welcome to my bozo bin, I'm sure you'll find plenty of other fools like
yourself there.

Party time!

It is best we stop now..... before you beat me.

"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level,
then beat you with experience." -Dilbert


-Michael

 

[Charlie Tame]

My post was to correct Charlie's incorrect statement, again, sorry
you're too stupid to understand that.


You sure talk big for a 12 year old Usenet newbie twit.
I guess we can add "obnoxious twit" to "stupid" when describing you.

Welcome to my bozo bin, I'm sure you'll find plenty of other fools like
yourself there.

I don't see what I said that was incorrect although I can see that
something could be misunderstood.

The point is that MS cannot fix what they do not know is broken, this is
a reality and nothing at all to do with the fact that there are some
issues which personally I think they could do / have done much better.

"IF" your issue is unique to your setup then a service pack is
"Unlikely" to help except in the rare case where something changed by
the service pack has an unforeseen but helpful effect.

 

[XS11E]

I don't see what I said that was incorrect although I can see that
something could be misunderstood.

Your first statement:

"A "Service Pack" fixes known issues"

We have WAAAAY too many people thinking that a service pack will fix
their computer, including the OP and OP's vendor, and in almost every
case it won't so I think you used a poor choice of words because the SP
is usually a rollup of previously fixed issues.

"IF" your issue is unique to your setup then a service pack is
"Unlikely" to help except in the rare case where something changed
by the service pack has an unforeseen but helpful effect.

Agreed, just don't help further the erroneous belief that a SP will be
something magic. With the exception of XPs SP2 and the never released
but fervently desired SP7 for NT 4.0 (it actually sort of came out but
they called it Windows 2000), SPs usually won't fix stuff.

 

[NoStop]

I agree John. But there is another group of people that like to blame
everything on Microsoft and the OS. These are the people that have old
hardware with multiple brand x sound cards and printers and disk drives
they bought off ebay used 2 years ago. Add in some old brand x RAM and
guess what you get. According to them you get a crappy OS from Microsoft.

What a Wintard! Anyone smart enough, runs older hardware with Ubuntu to end
up with a computer that's ten times what Vista is at a fifth of the cost.

Cheers.

--
Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/

 

[NoStop]

Wrong butt-munch! I only installed the os.

The above statements proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that either:

a) you never installed Linux at all, or else you'd know that it comes with
over a thousand packages installed when the distro is first installed, or

b) you were and are too stupid to have realized that more than just the os
was installed.

In either case, you do need to seek help. See my sig below for help.

Cheers.


--
Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/

 

[Frank]

Charlie wrote:




What a Wintard! Anyone smart enough, runs older hardware with Ubuntu to end
up with a computer that's ten times what Vista is at a fifth of the cost.

Cheers.

Wow! Sp now you're a math genius doris?
I don't think so.
Frank

 

[Frank]

Frank wrote:



The above statements proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that either:

Much smarter than you'll ever hope to be.
Sorry doris, it's called the "awful truth"!
No go kiss RS's hairy arse.
He's waiting for you!
Frank

 

[Charlie Tame]

Your first statement:

"A "Service Pack" fixes known issues"

We have WAAAAY too many people thinking that a service pack will fix
their computer, including the OP and OP's vendor, and in almost every
case it won't so I think you used a poor choice of words because the SP
is usually a rollup of previously fixed issues.


Agreed, just don't help further the erroneous belief that a SP will be
something magic. With the exception of XPs SP2 and the never released
but fervently desired SP7 for NT 4.0 (it actually sort of came out but
they called it Windows 2000), SPs usually won't fix stuff.

I don't think anything I said implied that SPs are miracle cures for
anything, although the announcement from MS does tend to suggest that
there will be some issues that have not yet been addressed in "Updates".
I think any disagreement is purely dependent on how things ere read

Of course W2000 (NT 5.0) was the "Service Pack" and for XP the same
might be said (almost) for XP2, and it seems a bit of a mystery why some
of the deficiencies in the original XP crept in when W2000 didn't have
them. Seems to me that something similar applies to Vista, for example
the mail client has less functionality than OE in a number of areas,
you'd think it can;t be so difficult to realize than when you "Take
something out" people will miss it