6 ide devices on 865pe, or 875p based MB?

[Rick]

I'm most likely uprading soon to a 800mhz p4 system and would like to
take most of not all of my ide devices with me.(6 in all)

Currently, I have 4ea wd 120g, 7200rpm, 8mb cache HD's and a Plextor
CD burner with a Pioneer DVD burner.

Do any of the newer intel based P4 boards support this?

Somebody mentioned that there are adapters so IDE drives can connect
to the SATA connection on the MB, is that True..and if so, can you
boot to it?

Lastly, are SATA drives noticably faster than the drives I have
allready? I could be talked into a couple of those, if they are really
that much better.

Thanks, Rick

 

[Philip Callan]

I'm most likely uprading soon to a 800mhz p4 system and would like to
take most of not all of my ide devices with me.(6 in all)

You can do it on the P4C800-E

Primary IDE: x2 IDE
Secondary IDE: x2 IDE
Both ATA100
PRI_RAID (Promise) ATA133: x2

I dont have enough drives, but if I recall correctly, you can connect two
drives to the Promise RAID controller header, and run them in non-raid mode.

I would run 2 HD's off it, and the other 2 off primary IDE, with your
burners using secondary IDE, as you cant hook atapi devices to the pri_raid
port.

Then you get 2 non-raid SATA headers and 2 SATA RAID headers.

Currently, I have 4ea wd 120g, 7200rpm, 8mb cache HD's and a Plextor
CD burner with a Pioneer DVD burner.

See above, it will fit.

Do any of the newer intel based P4 boards support this?
Yes.


Somebody mentioned that there are adapters so IDE drives can connect
to the SATA connection on the MB, is that True..and if so, can you
boot to it?

I know ASUS makes a SATA->PATA convertors, and Highpoint makes a few
PATA->SATA convertors.
You can boot of a true SATA drive, not sure how the convertor works, so I
dont know for sure.

Lastly, are SATA drives noticably faster than the drives I have
allready? I could be talked into a couple of those, if they are really
that much better.

The technology is there, but unless you go for one (a few) of the lower
capacity/higher rpm raptor drives and run them in
a RAID, you wont see ATA150 rates.

I just bought a SATA drive since the cabling is smaller, and simpler, and
for future upgrade path as PATA dies off.

Thanks, Rick

hth
Philip

 

[Rick]

You can do it on the P4C800-E

Primary IDE: x2 IDE
Secondary IDE: x2 IDE
Both ATA100
PRI_RAID (Promise) ATA133: x2

Thanks for the info. I see the P4P800 Deluxe seems to fit the bill
too. Other than the newer chipset on the P4C800-E, is there anything
it has that the P4P800 Deluxe doesn't? The P4P800 is much less
expensive.
Rick

 

[Philip Callan]

Thanks for the info. I see the P4P800 Deluxe seems to fit the bill
too. Other than the newer chipset on the P4C800-E, is there anything
it has that the P4P800 Deluxe doesn't? The P4P800 is much less
expensive.
Rick

Go here for all your 865PE/875P/865P/865G chipset board comparisons:
http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/i865pe-875p-roundup

He compares the following boards:
Abit IC7-G & IS7-G
Asus P4C800 Deluxe P4P800 Deluxe and P4P8X
Gigabyte 8KNXP 8PENXP and 8IPE1000
Epox 4PCA3+ & 4PDA2+
MSI 875P Neo & 865PE Neo2
Biostar P4TSE
Soltek 86SPE-L
DFI PS83 & PS35-BL

 

[Rick]

Go here for all your 865PE/875P/865P/865G chipset board comparisons:
http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/i865pe-875p-roundup

He compares the following boards:
Abit IC7-G & IS7-G
Asus P4C800 Deluxe P4P800 Deluxe and P4P8X
Gigabyte 8KNXP 8PENXP and 8IPE1000
Epox 4PCA3+ & 4PDA2+
MSI 875P Neo & 865PE Neo2
Biostar P4TSE
Soltek 86SPE-L
DFI PS83 & PS35-BL

Hey cool, thanks for the Link. After reading some of the reviews, it
looks like I made a pretty good choice in my purchase today. (I saw
your reply about 20 minutes after I clicked the "proceed with order
button".)

I purchased the P4P800 deluxe today, along with a p4, 2.8, 800mhz
chip, and a gig of pc3500 ram. I should have it Friday, so I know what
I'll be doing all weekend!

I remember I used to reload win95, then win98 about every few months
because they would gradually slow down. I haven't reloaded XP in a
year and a half or so. Hope I don't forget how its done

Rick

 

[Darkfalz]

I'm most likely uprading soon to a 800mhz p4 system and would like to
take most of not all of my ide devices with me.(6 in all)

Currently, I have 4ea wd 120g, 7200rpm, 8mb cache HD's and a Plextor
CD burner with a Pioneer DVD burner.

Do any of the newer intel based P4 boards support this?

Somebody mentioned that there are adapters so IDE drives can connect
to the SATA connection on the MB, is that True..and if so, can you
boot to it?

Lastly, are SATA drives noticably faster than the drives I have
allready? I could be talked into a couple of those, if they are really
that much better.

You could have up to 8 IDE devices in the P4P800. 4 through the Intel ATA100
and another 4 through the VIA ATA133 IDE.

 

[ME]

Rick,
I've been looking at doing the same thing only I will be slowly
upgrading my current PIII to a P-4 and cant afford buying the new sata
drives till later. There are a lot of different SATA adapters being made.
Try searching google, I got about 95,000 hits, granted not all were "right"
but there's a good starting point. I've seen them on ebay for as little as
1c and up (usually about $25.00 mid range) and the feedback say's they work.
If you do use the P4C800-e please post how it works out here as I plan on
using that same board
ME