40tude Dialog question

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In default screen, original settings, first run since install, I can see
headers in a newsgroup, but when I click on a header, or double click, the
message text does not appear in the lower window.

Tried various settings, no luck.

Advice?

Mike Sa
 
In default screen, original settings, first run since install, I can see
headers in a newsgroup, but when I click on a header, or double click, the
message text does not appear in the lower window.

Tried various settings, no luck.

Advice?
Click to expand...

Not sure how to solve your problem, but you'll have better luck in
news.software.readers.
 
In default screen, original settings, first run since install, I can see
headers in a newsgroup, but when I click on a header, or double click, the
message text does not appear in the lower window.
Click to expand...

Does the double click create a blue arrow in front of the header (marked
for later download)? In that case 4D might be in offline mode. Change
this via Online menu or just hit Ctrl+o.

HTH.
BeAr
 
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Subject: Re: 40tude Dialog question
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In default screen, original settings, first run since install, I can see
headers in a newsgroup, but when I click on a header, or double click, the
message text does not appear in the lower window.
Click to expand...

Does the double click create a blue arrow in front of the header (marked
for later download)? In that case 4D might be in offline mode. Change
this via Online menu or just hit Ctrl+o.

HTH.
BeAr
Click to expand...

Thanks to all.

BeAr, thanks very much, that fixed it. I dislike going to those newsgroups
with basic questions as they rarely answer them.

I haven't seen yet how to change the listing of headers to IIRC, ascending,
where the most recent is on the bottom of the list. Looked through the
settings, don't see it.

BTW, I was looking through old posts from April, and saved some good data
you posted on (not) registry cleaning.

Thanks,

Mike Sa
 
On Sun, 28 May 2006 12:09:37 -0700, ms wrote:

[Online mode switch]
BeAr, thanks very much, that fixed it.
Click to expand...

Glad, I could help. :-)
I dislike going to those newsgroups with basic questions as they rarely
answer them.
Click to expand...

Depends.
I've seen some very basic questions answered in news.software.readers.
And the German de.comm.software.40tude-dialog has more than half of
its traffic from newcomer questions, I'd guess. But although sometimes
you could get an English answer, there, it's not encouraged to ask
in English. (Of course.) Some regulars which do speak English can be
found in nsr, too. But so are some users of 4D in acf. ;-)
I haven't seen yet how to change the listing of headers to IIRC, ascending,
where the most recent is on the bottom of the list. Looked through the
settings, don't see it.
Click to expand...

For a quick access just click onto the column header. Subsequent
mouse clicks change the sort direction. More sophisticated sort
and filter conditions can be defined via the filter bar. Note the
BTW, I was looking through old posts from April, and saved some good data
you posted on (not) registry cleaning.
Click to expand...

Hm. Don't remember such posts, myself. (If you don't talk about the
2 postings from yesterday and today.) But, however, one can live
happily when forgetting the fact to have forgotten... ;-)

BeAr
 
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On Sun, 28 May 2006 12:09:37 -0700, ms wrote:

[Online mode switch]
BeAr, thanks very much, that fixed it.
Click to expand...

Glad, I could help. :-)
I dislike going to those newsgroups with basic questions as they rarely
answer them.
Click to expand...

Depends.
I've seen some very basic questions answered in news.software.readers.
And the German de.comm.software.40tude-dialog has more than half of
its traffic from newcomer questions, I'd guess. But although sometimes
you could get an English answer, there, it's not encouraged to ask
in English. (Of course.) Some regulars which do speak English can be
found in nsr, too. But so are some users of 4D in acf. ;-)
I haven't seen yet how to change the listing of headers to IIRC, ascending,
where the most recent is on the bottom of the list. Looked through the
settings, don't see it.
Click to expand...

For a quick access just click onto the column header. Subsequent
mouse clicks change the sort direction. More sophisticated sort
and filter conditions can be defined via the filter bar. Note the
<[ ] Rev. sort by> checkbox on the left side and the Apply-Button
on the right side of this bar.
Click to expand...
I see the (+), Sort by checkbox, selected Date, but don't see the Apply
button. Still can't get the current post on bottom.
This may not be the setting I want.

I'm not seeing something?

Thanks,

Mike Sa
 
On Sun, 28 May 2006 16:47:33 -0700, ms wrote:

[4D Sorting Headers]
I see the (+), Sort by checkbox, selected Date, but don't see the Apply
button.
Click to expand...

It is a button with only a picture on it. You find it on the same bar as
the <[ ] Rev Sort by> checkbox. It is on the most right side, alongside
the 3 filter drop-down lists. Until you hit that button, nothing you
selected or changed in this bar will take affect.
Still can't get the current post on bottom.
Click to expand...

You need "Rev-sort-by#Tread,Date" or "Rev-sort-by#Date". The latter can
also be accomplished by clicking onto the column header of the date
column. Depending of your current sorting you need to click either once
or twice. You see a small triangle alongside the word "date" in the
column header indicating the search direction.
This may not be the setting I want.
Click to expand...

Read QuickStart-TheUserInterface of 4D help to get further information.

HTH.
BeAr
 
On Sun, 28 May 2006 16:47:33 -0700, ms wrote:

[4D Sorting Headers]
I see the (+), Sort by checkbox, selected Date, but don't see the Apply
button.
Click to expand...

It is a button with only a picture on it. You find it on the same bar as
the <[ ] Rev Sort by> checkbox. It is on the most right side, alongside
the 3 filter drop-down lists. Until you hit that button, nothing you
selected or changed in this bar will take affect.
Click to expand...
It appears as an icon of a multipage document.
You need "Rev-sort-by#Tread,Date" or "Rev-sort-by#Date". The latter can
also be accomplished by clicking onto the column header of the date
column. Depending of your current sorting you need to click either once
or twice. You see a small triangle alongside the word "date" in the
column header indicating the search direction.
Click to expand...
I selected Rev- sort by Thread, Date, than clicked on the document icon
above. Since then, the setting shows so it is applied.
But it has not effected the header arrangement.
Read QuickStart-TheUserInterface of 4D help to get further information.
Click to expand...

I will dig into the help file.

What 40tude needs is a clear selection Ascending/Desending as in other
programs.

Thanks for the help, if I can't solve this, there is Xnews and Free Agent.

Mike Sa
 
[...]
I selected Rev- sort by Thread, Date, than clicked on the document icon
above. Since then, the setting shows so it is applied. [...]
But it has not effected the header arrangement.
Click to expand...

I'm still not sure that I get your wishes right. You want the most recent
post on bottom. That would require a non-threaded view:
<[x]Rev.sort by [Date]>.

But you also mentioned "Thread" in your sorting scheme. To sort threads
by first available posting with most recent thread on bottom you need
to apply:
<[Thread, Max.Score,Rev.Date]> or <[Thread, Avg.Score,Rev.Date]>

Both only differ if you do use scoring. Else the scoring part just
has no effect on the sort order. The <[x]Rev. sort by> switch has no
effect in these sortings.

You can't sort threads on last posting received, though, without applying
scoring based on date/time received. - IMHO. - This would not be a too
easy thing to accomplish... ;-)
What 40tude needs is a clear selection Ascending/Desending as in other
programs.
Click to expand...

It has some predefined sorting orders, which may sometimes seem a bit
limited. But these orders can be applied in almost too many places:
* Menu Group->DefaultGroupOptions->Sorting/Scoring
* the same from Settings menu
* Menu Group->SelectedGroupOptions->Sorting/Scoring
* the same from Settings menu
* Sort/Filter-Toolbar
* direct access of column headers of the header pane (consecutive
left mouse clicks change the sorting based on the definition
appointed to that column)
* Menu Settings->Layout->EditHeaderListColumns->->->SortBy
* the same from right click onto the column headers of the header pane

In any of these cases you clearly see the main sorting criterion
indicated by a gray triangle inside the column header of *that*
column of the header pane which is related to the main sort order.

BeAr
 
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