300 gig hard drive but xp only installs 137 gig partion

[Guest]

I have a shuttle xp barebones system that I replaced a hard drive in. I
cannot seem to get xp to show more than a 137 gig partion. How do I get xp
to install on one large partion? The BIOS is set to auto detect the hard
drive, and it shows up as 300 gig. How can I get a 300 gig partion?

Thanks,

Leslie

 

[Admiral Q]

a) The I-O controller needs to support 48-bit LBA (if internal on
motherboard, normally a BIOS/CMOS upgrade will handle that).
b) The WinXP CD must have SP1 or SP2 slipstreamed into it - in other words,
the CD must have SP1 or SP2 incorporated into it, a normal WinXP CD without
SP1/SP2 does not natively support 48-bit LBA.
c) 48-bit LBA support is required to access harddrives over 137GB.

 

[Rich Barry]

Leslie, you can try going to the manufacturer's website ( of your hard
drive ) and download a Drive Install
Tool. Check here for a more info
http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/faq/137_winxp.html

 

[Guest]

Rich and Admiral;

At this point I can easily do a clean re-install of xp. What is the first
step you would suggest to enable the 48 LBA? If I use the newest xp version
with both service packs, would that take care of the issue from the
beginning? Or would I still have to upgrade the BIOS? I was using the xp
disk that I had for this system when I bought it, but since then have built
several other systems with newer versions of xp without this problem (of
course different motherboards but all with 200 gig or more hard drives.) I
would rather do the best set up now using just xp - but my second preference
would be to upgrade the bios and lastly to use a third party software
solution. By the way, I did try to go around the problem with a pci ata
card, but when I installed that, xp couldn't even see the hard drive. The
bios could. I did an immediate upgrade to sp1 and 2 after installing xp but
still had the 137 gig partion. I guess what I am trying to say with all this
verbiage is should I just go and buy a newer copy of xp - if I did would it
solve the problem.

Thanks for all your help.

Leslie

 

[jimbo]

Rich and Admiral;

At this point I can easily do a clean re-install of xp. What is the first
step you would suggest to enable the 48 LBA? If I use the newest xp version
with both service packs, would that take care of the issue from the
beginning? Or would I still have to upgrade the BIOS? I was using the xp
disk that I had for this system when I bought it, but since then have built
several other systems with newer versions of xp without this problem (of
course different motherboards but all with 200 gig or more hard drives.) I
would rather do the best set up now using just xp - but my second preference
would be to upgrade the bios and lastly to use a third party software
solution. By the way, I did try to go around the problem with a pci ata
card, but when I installed that, xp couldn't even see the hard drive. The
bios could. I did an immediate upgrade to sp1 and 2 after installing xp but
still had the 137 gig partion. I guess what I am trying to say with all this
verbiage is should I just go and buy a newer copy of xp - if I did would it
solve the problem.

Thanks for all your help.

Leslie

:

I have a 200 GB hard drive that WinXP recognizes OK. I didn't do
anything about BIOS or 48 bit LBA. My WinXP is SP2, but not from the
original CD, just on-line updates. Are you sure you have partitioned
the hard drive for the full 300 GB?

Good luck, jimbo

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I have a 200 GB hard drive that WinXP recognizes OK. I didn't do
anything about BIOS or 48 bit LBA. My WinXP is SP2, but not from the
original CD, just on-line updates. Are you sure you have partitioned
the hard drive for the full 300 GB?

If your Windows XP is SP2 - that's why it works (that and the hardware sees
everything fine.)

If your Windows XP CD is PRE-SP1.. Then if you were to try and format that
drive from a FRESH install - no work - until you slipstreamed at least SP1
onto said CD to do your fresh install with.

 

[Guest]

Thank you Shenan and Jimbo-

I think I understand the concept of slipstreaming sp 1 and 2 onto my xp cd
(i.e. adding/copying it onto the original xp cd), but the question is how do
I do that? And once I do that, will it behave like the newest xp version and
hopefully (as long as the hardware is updated if necessary) when I do a clean
install using the slipstreamed xp disk it will recognize the 300 gig drive
and give me the choice to make it a single partion.

I appreciate your time and advice,

Leslie

 

[Shenan Stanley]

I think I understand the concept of slipstreaming sp 1 and 2 onto
my xp cd (i.e. adding/copying it onto the original xp cd), but the
question is how do I do that? And once I do that, will it behave
like the newest xp version and hopefully (as long as the hardware
is updated if necessary) when I do a clean install using the
slipstreamed xp disk it will recognize the 300 gig drive and give
me the choice to make it a single partion.

Quickly.. Look into "AutoStreamer" and the "IT Download" of Service Pack 2
for Windows XP.

More information...

Rather than give you just a little information - I will tell you how to get
the updates, how to integrate them into your own CD, etc.. That way you are
better informed about your options when it comes to the Windows Updates.

Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP
http://snipurl.com/8bqy

What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/sp2_whattoknow.mspx

You can download all updates and burn them to CD..

You can download each update manually - based off the KB Article number,
etc. That way you can back it up/burn a CD of them in case you need them or
use them to keep a slipstream/integrated (updated) Windows XP CD.

How to use the Windows Update Catalog
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166
(In order to use the Windows Update Catalog, you must use IE to get the
patches..)

Windows Update Catalog
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp
(In order to use the Windows Update Catalog, you must use IE to get the
patches..)

Creating an Integrated Installation
http://snipurl.com/el43

Integrate software updates into your Windows installation source files
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828930

Really customize your CD..
http://unattended.msfn.org/

Produce an up-to-date XP Distibution CD
http://xpcreate.com/

AutoPatcher
http://www.autopatcher.com/

AutoStreamer
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562

You can see the critical (security and other) patches released for a given
month using the following:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms##-***.mspx

At the end of this line you see "ms##-***.mspx" .. If you simply replace ##
with the two-digit year and the *** with the three character month
abbreviation, you will see the list of "critical" and "important" patches
for that month (since it only happens once a month usually, if you check by
the second Tuesday (wait until afternoon) of each month - you should be
fine) - note that future months will not work.

As an example...

December 2004's patches..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-dec.mspx

March 2005's patches..
None released.. so that one will fail...

May 2005's patches..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms05-may.mspx

July 2005's patches..
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms05-jul.mspx


Once you get on the page with each month's list of patches.. You can go to
the related KB articles and grab the appropriate files from there.

 

[Guest]

Shenan,

All I can say is "Wow". Obviously I have a few things to do now. Thank you
so much for helping me learn!

Leslie