2nd try for help w/ an unexpected Form Properties Dialog Box

[Guest]

I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access database.
After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file, the Form
Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five different FP
books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server extensions are on
and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail before the
attempt to switch over to a database.

I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look like
like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my student's
laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.

I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to work as
advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some help.
The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other (DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file, the Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server extensions are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to work as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Guest]

I'll try to be more specific. When I open the Form Properties dialog box in
my attempt to have FP create a db, as all the books indicate it will do, the
dialog box that appears is very different than the one shown in all the 3rd
party books (from intro to college level, full function textbooks approved
and used across the whole country). I have looked for a book that might
explain why this dialog box is different from what is expected/shown.

On the first page of the dialog box, there is an NOT option button to create
a new Access db as the books indicate it can. There is a list box option to
send the results to a existing db There is an options button leading to
another dialog window, but it, like the first page of the dialog, is also
different. From this experience I see no way to have FP create a new Access
db.

Thanks for the effort, but I've not yet solved the problem. If ANYONE has a
reference to this problem or a book that explains how this different dialog
box works, please feel free to respond.

AS a teacher, I have a message for all newer, struggling web creators. This
problem is an example of how people who have a pretty good idea of what they
are doing can get very stuck and need help. The lessons this problem teach
are: to keep on working the problem, don't get so angry you put a fist
through the monitor, be grateful for all help you get and most of all, don't
think you're a dummy just because something doesn't work ... "it" might
occasionally be the program or other technical something!

JFS

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other (DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file, the Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server extensions are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to work as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]]

Can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing somewhere that we can take
a look?

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/

I'll try to be more specific. When I open the Form Properties dialog box
in
my attempt to have FP create a db, as all the books indicate it will do,
the
dialog box that appears is very different than the one shown in all the
3rd
party books (from intro to college level, full function textbooks approved
and used across the whole country). I have looked for a book that might
explain why this dialog box is different from what is expected/shown.

On the first page of the dialog box, there is an NOT option button to
create
a new Access db as the books indicate it can. There is a list box option
to
send the results to a existing db There is an options button leading to
another dialog window, but it, like the first page of the dialog, is also
different. From this experience I see no way to have FP create a new
Access
db.

Thanks for the effort, but I've not yet solved the problem. If ANYONE has
a
reference to this problem or a book that explains how this different
dialog
box works, please feel free to respond.

AS a teacher, I have a message for all newer, struggling web creators.
This
problem is an example of how people who have a pretty good idea of what
they
are doing can get very stuck and need help. The lessons this problem
teach
are: to keep on working the problem, don't get so angry you put a fist
through the monitor, be grateful for all help you get and most of all,
don't
think you're a dummy just because something doesn't work ... "it" might
occasionally be the program or other technical something!

JFS

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other (DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file, the
Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five
different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server extensions
are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail
before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look
like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my
student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to work
as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some
help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Ronx]

In line:
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I'll try to be more specific. When I open the Form Properties dialog box
in
my attempt to have FP create a db, as all the books indicate it will do,
the
dialog box that appears is very different than the one shown in all the
3rd
party books (from intro to college level, full function textbooks
approved
and used across the whole country). I have looked for a book that might
explain why this dialog box is different from what is expected/shown.

On the first page of the dialog box, there is an NOT option button to
create
a new Access db as the books indicate it can. There is a list box option
to
send the results to a existing db There is an options button leading to
another dialog window, but it, like the first page of the dialog, is also
different. From this experience I see no way to have FP create a new
Access
db.

Snap. My FP2003 does not have that either, on the FIRST page of Form
Properties.
Select the Send to Database radio, then click the Options button, and then
there is an option to create a database.

Thanks for the effort, but I've not yet solved the problem. If ANYONE
has a
reference to this problem or a book that explains how this different
dialog
box works, please feel free to respond.

AS a teacher, I have a message for all newer, struggling web creators.
This
problem is an example of how people who have a pretty good idea of what
they
are doing can get very stuck and need help. The lessons this problem
teach
are: to keep on working the problem, don't get so angry you put a fist
through the monitor, be grateful for all help you get and most of all,
don't
think you're a dummy just because something doesn't work ... "it" might
occasionally be the program or other technical something!

JFS

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other (DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file,
the Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five
different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server extensions
are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail
before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look
like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my
student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to work
as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some
help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Guest]

That's a great idea, but alas, my effort to post a screenshot has failed.
Sorry for being a pain in the posterior, newbie to this forum, but I need
some help getting a screenshot to post. FYI, I did try to figure out how to
do this before seeking help!

Can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing somewhere that we can take
a look?

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/

I'll try to be more specific. When I open the Form Properties dialog box
in
my attempt to have FP create a db, as all the books indicate it will do,
the
dialog box that appears is very different than the one shown in all the
3rd
party books (from intro to college level, full function textbooks approved
and used across the whole country). I have looked for a book that might
explain why this dialog box is different from what is expected/shown.

On the first page of the dialog box, there is an NOT option button to
create
a new Access db as the books indicate it can. There is a list box option
to
send the results to a existing db There is an options button leading to
another dialog window, but it, like the first page of the dialog, is also
different. From this experience I see no way to have FP create a new
Access
db.

Thanks for the effort, but I've not yet solved the problem. If ANYONE has
a
reference to this problem or a book that explains how this different
dialog
box works, please feel free to respond.

AS a teacher, I have a message for all newer, struggling web creators.
This
problem is an example of how people who have a pretty good idea of what
they
are doing can get very stuck and need help. The lessons this problem
teach
are: to keep on working the problem, don't get so angry you put a fist
through the monitor, be grateful for all help you get and most of all,
don't
think you're a dummy just because something doesn't work ... "it" might
occasionally be the program or other technical something!

JFS

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other (DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file, the
Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five
different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server extensions
are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail
before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look
like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my
student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to work
as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some
help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Tom Willett]

Post the screen shot on your website, not here, and give us the URL.
--
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------

That's a great idea, but alas, my effort to post a screenshot has failed.
Sorry for being a pain in the posterior, newbie to this forum, but I need
some help getting a screenshot to post. FYI, I did try to figure out how
to
do this before seeking help!

Can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing somewhere that we can
take
a look?

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/

I'll try to be more specific. When I open the Form Properties dialog
box
in
my attempt to have FP create a db, as all the books indicate it will
do,
the
dialog box that appears is very different than the one shown in all the
3rd
party books (from intro to college level, full function textbooks
approved
and used across the whole country). I have looked for a book that
might
explain why this dialog box is different from what is expected/shown.

On the first page of the dialog box, there is an NOT option button to
create
a new Access db as the books indicate it can. There is a list box
option
to
send the results to a existing db There is an options button leading
to
another dialog window, but it, like the first page of the dialog, is
also
different. From this experience I see no way to have FP create a new
Access
db.

Thanks for the effort, but I've not yet solved the problem. If ANYONE
has
a
reference to this problem or a book that explains how this different
dialog
box works, please feel free to respond.

AS a teacher, I have a message for all newer, struggling web creators.
This
problem is an example of how people who have a pretty good idea of what
they
are doing can get very stuck and need help. The lessons this problem
teach
are: to keep on working the problem, don't get so angry you put a fist
through the monitor, be grateful for all help you get and most of all,
don't
think you're a dummy just because something doesn't work ... "it" might
occasionally be the program or other technical something!

JFS

:

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other (DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:

http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access
database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file,
the
Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five
different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server
extensions
are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail
before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look
like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my
student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to
work
as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some
help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Guest]

A new page illustrating the dialog boxes I get when working on a form I'm
trying to send to a db has been saved to my website ... this is the web
addres for the page.

http://www.craftsmithgolf.com/problem_page.htm

As I was writing this reply, a copy of "Microsoft Office 2003 ... Inside
Out" published by Microsoft Press was delivered. I assume Microsoft is an
authority on Microsoft. Page 880 illustrates the very same dialog box as all
of my other references. That illustration is very different that what I get
(shown on the new web page I have referenced) when I open the Form
Properties. I have searched and cannot find the dialog box for what I am
trying to do.

If the tone of this message indicates some frustration, then please
understand I am very grateful for everyone's help and the frustration is not
directed towards your help!

Post the screen shot on your website, not here, and give us the URL.
--
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------

That's a great idea, but alas, my effort to post a screenshot has failed.
Sorry for being a pain in the posterior, newbie to this forum, but I need
some help getting a screenshot to post. FYI, I did try to figure out how
to
do this before seeking help!

Can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing somewhere that we can
take
a look?

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


I'll try to be more specific. When I open the Form Properties dialog
box
in
my attempt to have FP create a db, as all the books indicate it will
do,
the
dialog box that appears is very different than the one shown in all the
3rd
party books (from intro to college level, full function textbooks
approved
and used across the whole country). I have looked for a book that
might
explain why this dialog box is different from what is expected/shown.

On the first page of the dialog box, there is an NOT option button to
create
a new Access db as the books indicate it can. There is a list box
option
to
send the results to a existing db There is an options button leading
to
another dialog window, but it, like the first page of the dialog, is
also
different. From this experience I see no way to have FP create a new
Access
db.

Thanks for the effort, but I've not yet solved the problem. If ANYONE
has
a
reference to this problem or a book that explains how this different
dialog
box works, please feel free to respond.

AS a teacher, I have a message for all newer, struggling web creators.
This
problem is an example of how people who have a pretty good idea of what
they
are doing can get very stuck and need help. The lessons this problem
teach
are: to keep on working the problem, don't get so angry you put a fist
through the monitor, be grateful for all help you get and most of all,
don't
think you're a dummy just because something doesn't work ... "it" might
occasionally be the program or other technical something!

JFS

:

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other (DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:

http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access
database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp file,
the
Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five
different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server
extensions
are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an e-mail
before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me look
like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my
student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program to
work
as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for some
help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.

 

[Ronx]

You need to click "Send to Database on the first screen, however I see that
radio is greyed out.
Check Tools->Page Options - Authoring tab
and ensure the box "Browse time web components" is ticked.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

A new page illustrating the dialog boxes I get when working on a form I'm
trying to send to a db has been saved to my website ... this is the web
addres for the page.

http://www.craftsmithgolf.com/problem_page.htm

As I was writing this reply, a copy of "Microsoft Office 2003 ... Inside
Out" published by Microsoft Press was delivered. I assume Microsoft is
an
authority on Microsoft. Page 880 illustrates the very same dialog box as
all
of my other references. That illustration is very different that what I
get
(shown on the new web page I have referenced) when I open the Form
Properties. I have searched and cannot find the dialog box for what I am
trying to do.

If the tone of this message indicates some frustration, then please
understand I am very grateful for everyone's help and the frustration is
not
directed towards your help!

Post the screen shot on your website, not here, and give us the URL.
--
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------

That's a great idea, but alas, my effort to post a screenshot has
failed.
Sorry for being a pain in the posterior, newbie to this forum, but I
need
some help getting a screenshot to post. FYI, I did try to figure out
how
to
do this before seeking help!

:

Can you post a screenshot of what you are seeing somewhere that we
can
take
a look?

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


I'll try to be more specific. When I open the Form Properties
dialog
box
in
my attempt to have FP create a db, as all the books indicate it
will
do,
the
dialog box that appears is very different than the one shown in all
the
3rd
party books (from intro to college level, full function textbooks
approved
and used across the whole country). I have looked for a book that
might
explain why this dialog box is different from what is
expected/shown.

On the first page of the dialog box, there is an NOT option button
to
create
a new Access db as the books indicate it can. There is a list box
option
to
send the results to a existing db There is an options button
leading
to
another dialog window, but it, like the first page of the dialog,
is
also
different. From this experience I see no way to have FP create a
new
Access
db.

Thanks for the effort, but I've not yet solved the problem. If
ANYONE
has
a
reference to this problem or a book that explains how this
different
dialog
box works, please feel free to respond.

AS a teacher, I have a message for all newer, struggling web
creators.
This
problem is an example of how people who have a pretty good idea of
what
they
are doing can get very stuck and need help. The lessons this
problem
teach
are: to keep on working the problem, don't get so angry you put a
fist
through the monitor, be grateful for all help you get and most of
all,
don't
think you're a dummy just because something doesn't work ... "it"
might
occasionally be the program or other technical something!

JFS

:

The dialog is always the same
- the options available on it are limited when you send to other
(DB)
Explain what you are trying to do, not the dialog

--

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:

http://www.frontpagemvps.com/FrontPageNewsGroups/tabid/53/Default.aspx
_____________________________________________


|I want to have FrontPage 2003 create and connect to an Access
database.
| After the form has been created and the page saved as an .asp
file,
the
Form
| Properties dialog box is different that that shown in about five
different FP
| books and as described by the MS online Help text. Server
extensions
are on
| and the form was working to deliver both a text file and an
e-mail
before the
| attempt to switch over to a database.
|
| I am teaching a college E-commerce class and this is making me
look
like
| like a monkey. I verified the same problem exists on all of my
student's
| laptop's so the error is not in my application or with my
computer.
|
| I know there are workarounds, but I would like for the program
to
work
as
| advertised and explained in textbooks. This is my 2nd try for
some
help.
| The problem has some pretty good computer teachers confused.