2007 Beta2: Why no live HTML in RSS Feed?

[Guest]

When i setup a new RSS feed in Outlook 2007 Beta2, and the articles start
coming down, they don't show the actual article live (readin pane). All I
get is a link to open the article in my browsner, or download the attachment
html page. This is a pretty worthless RSS reader if the reading pane won't
show anything but the tagline of the article.

I think there also me be a general HTML display bug in the Reading Pane
itself. I have been using a thrid party RSS reader plugin for Outlook 2003
(IntraVnews) that used to render the HTML properly i nthe reading pane. In
2007 it skews all the headers (like the menu tabs at the top of CNet or
FoxNews. The rest of the html page seems to look OK, but text is a little
larger than normal.

Thanks!

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

what feed are you using? (it works fine on my feeds - which are mostly
office beta feeds)
is it bringing the html in as an attachment? is there a message in the
infobar?

 

[Vince Averello [MVP-Outlook]]

Most of my feeds are screwed up with Intravnews & OL2007. The HTML content
is rendering poorly. I've sent samples to the proper authorities. No
messages in the InfoBar. Ars Technica & Digg are two feeds, for example,
that rendered nicely in OL2003 but poorly in OL2007.

 

[Guest]

what feed are you using? (it works fine on my feeds - which are mostly
office beta feeds)
is it bringing the html in as an attachment? is there a message in the
infobar?

I’m using IntraVnews for some RSS feeds with OL2007 . Initially, I had a
bunch of problems resulting in OL crashing ‘bout every 47 seconds; but with
persistent fidgeting of the feeds; deleting a few dead links, that were not a
problem for 03, slowing the updating speed way down, setting custom schedules
for each feed so they would not try to load simultaneously, and turning off
Avast anti-virus for email I finally achieved stability [I typed this as
suggestions for the newsies who may be experiencing the same problems].

Now this mourning when I went to look at the news [the Sunday NY Times
bidness articles are terrific] I discovered that the IntraVnews tool bar had
a really productive night cloning itself 36 times, causing the tool bars to
pretty much take over the Outlook window. Clicking on one of the selections
on the bar caused what appeared to be 36 instances of the same window
opening. Closing and reopening Outlook caused the IntraVnews toolbar to
completely disappear, however an investigation of the Trust Centre (who
thought up that name? Did they get extra credit?) suggested that Intraviews
was still working as it was listed in the section titled “add-ins that are
still workingâ€. At this point being beta experienced, I knew to close and
reopen Outlook again (in 2007 we will need to do everything twice for it to
really count) and everything was back to normal. The incredible self
generation toolbar phenomena has yet to reappear.

These real life experiences along with readings here in this very group led
to a demented desire to experiment with Outlook’s RSS feed. I selected a
Wired News feed [http://www.wired.com/news/feeds/rss2/0,2610,,00.xml] which I
was currently reading in IntraVnews. Copying the complex link from
IntraVnews, I open the account setting thingie, selected RSS/new, got the
‘what link do you want’ dialogue box and tried to paste the link. Learned
that you can’t paste into that particular box so had to type the link. When
one mal-types nothing happens. After only two attempts I get it right and
select everything; download the enclosures, download the html and
attachments.

I then pick my new Wired News folder, and there’s a whole bunch of articles.
In the reading pain header I gots the familiar attachment bar [message
followed by full article html (24 KB)]. Things are looking good. The
message pain has the article’s tag allowing one to delete those that seem
boring and a link to the on-line version of the article. Clicking the
message pain I expected to get the ‘you should only preview files from a
trustworthy source’ however the message that appeared is ‘this file cannot be
previewed because there is no previewer installed for it.†Interesting as I
get html email all the time (some even today) and the exact same article from
wired appears in Outlook albeit not as an attachment when received from
IntraVnews.
Off to do a help and newsgroup search and learned “By default, Microsoft
Office Outlook 2007 includes Attachment Preview support for the following:
Microsoft Office Outlook 2007 items.
Microsoft Office Word 2007 documents.
Microsoft Office PowerPoint 2007 presentations.
Microsoft Office Excel 2007 worksheets.
Microsoft Office Visio 2007 drawings.
Images and text files.â€

And that perhaps I could download a previewer from somewhere else. Yet
neither Google nor the other threads in this newsgroup that discuss
previewers, suggested a source for an html previewer, but on 24 May you
typed:

what feed are you using? (it works fine on my feeds - which are mostly
office beta feeds)
is it bringing the html in as an attachment? is there a message in the
infobar?

Which suggests that you may have access to a an html previewer. Since it
didn’t come from Microsoft would you be so kind as to point the rest of in
right direction to find it? Being able to read RSS in the reading pain would
be really nice.

Thanks.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Now this mourning when I went to look at the news [the Sunday NY Times

bidness articles are terrific] I discovered that the IntraVnews tool bar had
a really productive night cloning itself 36 times, causing the tool bars to
pretty much take over the Outlook window. Clicking on one of the selections
on the bar caused what appeared to be 36 instances of the same window
opening. Closing and reopening Outlook caused the IntraVnews toolbar to
completely disappear, however an investigation of the Trust Centre (who
thought up that name? Did they get extra credit?) suggested that Intraviews
was still working as it was listed in the section titled "add-ins that are
still working". At this point being beta experienced, I knew to close and
reopen Outlook again (in 2007 we will need to do everything twice for it to
really count) and everything was back to normal. The incredible self
generation toolbar phenomena has yet to reappear.

I'd conclude that the IntraVnews add-in is not compatible with Outlook
2007.

These real life experiences along with readings here in this very group led
to a demented desire to experiment with Outlook's RSS feed. I selected a
Wired News feed [http://www.wired.com/news/feeds/rss2/0,2610,,00.xml] which I
was currently reading in IntraVnews. Copying the complex link from
IntraVnews, I open the account setting thingie, selected RSS/new, got the
'what link do you want' dialogue box and tried to paste the link. Learned
that you can't paste into that particular box so had to type the link. When
one mal-types nothing happens. After only two attempts I get it right and
select everything; download the enclosures, download the html and
attachments.

You can paste into that particular dialog using the keyboard shortcut
CTRL-V. MS unfortunately decided to not provide a right-click menu with
the paste option for it.

And that perhaps I could download a previewer from somewhere else. Yet
neither Google nor the other threads in this newsgroup that discuss
previewers, suggested a source for an html previewer, but on 24 May you
typed:

I wouldn't expect any previewers to be available yet, as Outlook 2007
will be in beta for a few more months.

Which suggests that you may have access to a an html previewer. Since it
didn't come from Microsoft would you be so kind as to point the rest of in
right direction to find it? Being able to read RSS in the reading pain would
be really nice.

There is no HTML previewer. You should simply see the item in the
reading pane. The reading pane should show two tabs: Message and "Full
article.htm". If you click on Full article, you should get the previewer
missing message. However, you should see the entire article rendered
with picture under Message.
What happens when you open the item (double-click it)? Do you see it
rendered then?

Patrick Schmid

 

[Guest]

What happens when you open the item (double-click it)? Do you see it
rendered then?

Patrick Schmid

Hello Patrick,

Thank you for reply.

You typed:
"I'd conclude that the IntraVnews add-in is not compatible with
Outlook
2007."

You're probably right about this, however while limping IntraVnews usability
is better than the RSS options currently available in Outlook.

Then you typed;
"You can paste into that particular dialog using the keyboard
shortcut
CTRL-V. MS unfortunately decided to not provide a right-click menu with
the paste option for it."

Good to know, some day there'll be a mouse driver that will bring back my
copy / paste mouse buttons.

After that;
"There is no HTML previewer. You should simply see the item in the
reading pane. The reading pane should show two tabs: Message and "Full
article.htm". If you click on Full article, you should get the previewer
missing message. However, you should see the entire article rendered
with picture under Message.
What happens when you open the item (double-click it)? Do you see it
rendered then?"


While you and I may believe there is no html previewer, Diane has suggested
that she has one and if she does it would be nice to be able to use it.
Certainly, Microsoft has not closed the door to the potential for an html
previewer.

Now if I were to actually see the full article rendered with pictures under
message in the reading pain I would be more than satisfied [that what
IntraVnews does]. This would certainly make the full article attachment pain
needlessly redundant. However, the message pain only displays the article
tag and an html link (View article). Clicking on the link causes it to open
the article in Internet Explorer as a http link. Double clicking on the
"full article html" tab brings up the "OMG are you sure you want to open this
file and chance destroying everything on your computer?" dialogue. Choosing
to take the risk opens the article in Internet Explorer with a local source
C:/user/etc. Interestingly, the link versus the download render slightly
differently. I would certainly like to get the entire article render with
pictures under message so if you could tell what I'm doing wrong I'll correct
it since having all these browser windows open is both slow and messy.

Thanks.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

You're probably right about this, however while limping IntraVnews
usability

is better than the RSS options currently available in Outlook.

Your RSS support is definitely not working correctly.

While you and I may believe there is no html previewer, Diane has suggested
that she has one and if she does it would be nice to be able to use it.
Certainly, Microsoft has not closed the door to the potential for an html
previewer.

Diane certainly has no HTML previewer. She was referring to the ability
to just see the entire RSS feed rendered correctly in Outlook. Outlook
doesn't really need an HTML previewer, as it shows HTML natively.

Now if I were to actually see the full article rendered with pictures under
message in the reading pain I would be more than satisfied [that what
IntraVnews does]. This would certainly make the full article attachment pain
needlessly redundant. However, the message pain only displays the article
tag and an html link (View article). Clicking on the link causes it to open
the article in Internet Explorer as a http link. Double clicking on the
"full article html" tab brings up the "OMG are you sure you want to open this
file and chance destroying everything on your computer?" dialogue. Choosing
to take the risk opens the article in Internet Explorer with a local source
C:/user/etc. Interestingly, the link versus the download render slightly
differently. I would certainly like to get the entire article render with
pictures under message so if you could tell what I'm doing wrong I'll correct
it since having all these browser windows open is both slow and messy

There is something not working with your Outlook. I'd suggest you
disable the IntraVnews add-in using Tools, Trust Center, Add-Ins, and
try this again. What other add-ins do you have listed as enabled there?

Patrick Schmid

 

[Guest]

There is something not working with your Outlook. I'd suggest you
disable the IntraVnews add-in using Tools, Trust Center, Add-Ins, and
try this again. What other add-ins do you have listed as enabled there?

Patrick Schmid

Hello Patrick

Certainly appreciate your support and am encouraged when you typed;

“Your RSS support is definitely not working correctlyâ€

It’s good to believe that the Outlook is not stupid by design nor that I’ve
done something obviously wrong that no normal person would have done.

You then typed;

“There is something not working with your Outlook. I'd suggest you
disable the IntraVnews add-in using Tools, Trust Center, Add-Ins, and
try this again. What other add-ins do you have listed as enabled there?â€


Alright, I disabled IntraVnews in Trust Centre, closed and reopened Outlook
(twice) verified that the IntravVnews toolbar was gone, that it was disabled
in the Trust Centre, and added a BBC news feed, selected download both
articles and attachments.

In the reading pain I got both tabs the message tab looks like this:

Russia's huge oil and gas wealth enables the early repayment of its entire
$22.3bn Paris Club debt.

View article...


Then the article in the full article tab just blocked by the lack of a
previewer.

As far as other add ins it’s

Exchange for Unified messaging
VBA for Outlook
OneNote Notes about Outllook Items