15GB required to install...is there anyway around that?

G

Guest

My C: is only 13gb big, the windows (xp) folder is only like 3.5gb big. my D:
is 18gb big though. Assuming it isnt going to fill up 15GB once installed,
is it possible to somehow direct it to use my D: instead, or can you install
windows onto a D:?
 
M

Mark Thompson

Greg said:
My C: is only 13gb big, the windows (xp) folder is only like 3.5gb big. my D:
is 18gb big though. Assuming it isnt going to fill up 15GB once installed,
is it possible to somehow direct it to use my D: instead, or can you install
windows onto a D:?

yes, Install OSX.

it's arguably a more advanced OS and only takes up 2.3GB upon a standard
install. Apple has better programmers, so it's able to write tighter,
faster, stronger code than Microsoft. MS programs by committee, Apple
programs by genius. So if you wonder why people are having trouble
installing Vista, now you know why. go out and buy a mac, you'll be glad
you did.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/switch/
 
Z

Zim Babwe

Are you a total moron? He has a legitimate question and you have to go and
say something stupid. OSX isn't the answer to everything.

Go play with yourself.
 
D

Dale M. White

My laptop hard drive partition was only 16GB total and it's now 11GB free,
so it doesn't really eat up 15GB. You can choose to install Vista anywhere
you like.
 
D

Dale M. White

Opps, I typed that wrong, The total install size is showing at 10GB with 2GB
being for pagefile and hibernation. I'm running Vlite now to remove the
hibernation option and will probably shrink the pagefile down to 512mb.
 
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Adam Albright

My C: is only 13gb big, the windows (xp) folder is only like 3.5gb big. my D:
is 18gb big though. Assuming it isnt going to fill up 15GB once installed,
is it possible to somehow direct it to use my D: instead, or can you install
windows onto a D:?

You need a bigger drive. Even if you can shoehorn Vista into the
little free space you have doing a custom install (haven't tried) you
won't have much room left for the swap file or where Windows by
default puts all your installed software, under program files.

Lets see... just looking at my Vista install, the Windows folder fills
about 8.3 GB, that doing a install in place which kept all my old
software. You need that minimum extra room when the cab files get
expanded, etc.. Windows needs some wiggle room to install.

My program files folder is another 9.8 GB, so that's already way over
15 GB and that don't count the space the swap file takes up, another
1.5 GB, plus you'll need room for Windows security updates, restore
points, etc.. So not really practical.

You can pick up a 50 GB drive for well under $100 these days. Most of
the online web sites that sell computer stuff often have special on
hard drives they almost give away.

http://www.nextag.com/50gb-hard-drive/search-html
 
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Sascha Benjamin Jazbec

vlite( current beta 00.9 ) :

vista configuration tool, trim vista dvds to cd size, remove
components,drivers,demos..

removed all optional stuff : vista install is 4-5 GB on Disk,RAM usage down
to under 200 MB.

www.vlite.net

SJ /germany
 
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Adam Albright

yes, Install OSX.

it's arguably a more advanced OS and only takes up 2.3GB upon a standard
install. Apple has better programmers, so it's able to write tighter,
faster, stronger code than Microsoft. MS programs by committee, Apple
programs by genius. So if you wonder why people are having trouble
installing Vista, now you know why. go out and buy a mac, you'll be glad
you did.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/switch/


Apple needs a marketing genius like Bill Gates. Apple only has a 6%
share of the personal computer market. <giggle, snort>

Please explain to us "windows dummies" how it is that if Mac has such
a better OS, that 94 out of every 100 people buy something else.
 
G

Guest

so when you were installing, did you take enough off your computer to only
have one gig left? that sounds almost impossible. Did you have less than
15gb free when you installed?
 
G

Guest

for someone that knows so much, aparently he doesnt realize that OSX will not
install on a PC...

also, i use a Mac OSX every day at work and I HATE it! I even own a Mac
mini. I can use it and deal with it at work but i'll never feel comfortable
with one. Atleast they finally got things looking more modern finally with
the relase of X. OS9 and below compare to that of a colecovision. Im
perfectly fine with my PC.
 
R

Richard Urban

Get a Vista compatible computer. Yours is way out dated.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Dale M. White

Let me clarify a little as I think I just confused things. On my laptop, I
have a 2nd partition. It's 16GB total. Once I finished installing Windows
Vista Enterprise, it has 9GB free. So the install only took about 7GB or so.
I was getting confused, but I was looking at the full numbers reported and
then the short numbers reported. So I'm just sticking with the short numbers
to keep it simple.
 
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Donald McDaniel

Zim Babwe said:
Are you a total moron? He has a legitimate question and you have to go
and say something stupid. OSX isn't the answer to everything.

Go play with yourself.

To answer your honest questions, Greg:
I'm sorry, my friend, but there is no way around the minimum requirements
for Vista. When Microsoft means "MINIMUM", they mean "enough to do the job
adequately, with a little extra for good measure", not "almost enough".

1) Microsoft says the Vista installer needs a minimum of 15GB *FREE* space
(that means *NO FILES* in that space). Obviously, if your C: partition is
only 13GB, with 3.5gb of that space taken up by XP, it's not 15GB *FREE*
space.
2) It IS possible to install Vista (or XP) on a secondary drive. In
fact,that is the best way to dual-boot different OSes. But it MUST be an
internal drive. NO external drives at all.
3) 18GB (if that is *FREE* space) is pushing your luck. I suggest a MINIMUM
of 40GB for a Vista installation. I really don't believe this is
unreasonable.

I really advise you to spend about $75 (or less), and purchase a newer 160
GB HD, then install Vista as the exclusive OS on it, and get rid of those
older drives (or keep them for extra data storage).


Vista has these Mac-Bois running scared, so they launch into these tirades
at the drop of a hat, with white spittle surrounding the sides of their
mouths.

Trouble installing Vista? WTF? I've never had trouble installing any
Microsoft OS, at any time. Even on one of his vaunted Macs. In fact, I
removed OS X completely from my Apple Intel PC, wiping the HD entirely, and
had absolutely no problems installing XP or Vista on it. I'm sure this
causes the current rabid Mac-Boi to grind his teeth till they are nothing
but nubs, and causes him to recoil in horror at so "evil" a thought as
wiping a Mac drive and installing Vista on it rather than OS X.

If ANYONE has trouble installing Vista, its not because it's hard to
install, because it's not. It's actually easy, even easier than XP was.

Here are ten reasons they might find it difficult:
1) Failing to educate themselves and prepare their computers beforehand.
1a) Failing to obtain or download the necessary Vista drivers for their
hardware beforehand.
2) Failing to educate themselves afterward.
3) Failing to have adequate *FREE* HD space (Microsoft says 15GB *FREE*
space to install, much of which will be returned after installation.) The
Vista installer needs this space to unpack the correct image.
4) Failing to have a newer motherboard/CPU combination.
5) Failing to have adequate memory (Microsoft says 512MB, but I believe 1 to
2 GB is more in line with Vista's true needs)
5a) Failing to have the correct memory. Matching sticks are much better
than mixed. Do NOT mix memory speeds. Doing this only causes ALL your
memory sticks to operate at the speed of the lowest-rated stick. XP and
Vista are both extremely sensitive to mixed/faulty/poor-quality memory:
Vista even more so than XP.
6) Failing to have a DirectX 9-compatible video card, with a minimum of
128MB on-card VRAM (for Aero)
7) Trying to install Vista on Grampa's early-90's Packard-Bell.
8) Trying to install Vista using a CD drive rather than a DVD drive
8a) Not even OWNING a DVD drive: (8) and (8a) are both GUARANTEED to foil
your installation from the get-go.
9) A generalized fear of technology
10) Last but not least, just plain stupidity. There is only one cure for
stupidity: EDUCATION, EDUCATION, and MORE EDUCATION.

I added (7) and (8) to inject a little humour into the subject. Everyone
knows by now that Vista is distributed on a DVD rather than a CD, as XP was.
One would have to be very uninformed (or uncaring) to not know this.
 
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Donald McDaniel

Adam Albright said:
Apple needs a marketing genius like Bill Gates. Apple only has a 6%
share of the personal computer market. <giggle, snort>

Please explain to us "windows dummies" how it is that if Mac has such
a better OS, that 94 out of every 100 people buy something else.


Of course, one must also purchase a Macintosh to install OS X. Why waste
another $1500US for a cruddy OS in the first place?

Apple only has 4%-6% market share for a simple reason: That's close to the
percentage of "artists" who are probably Apple's only customers.

Normal human beings cannot be flim-flammed like the elitists who purchase
Apples.
 

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