10 Things I Hate About Vista

G

Guest

Top 10 things I hate about Vista

10 - Dialog boxes keep popping up, even after I click "do not show me this
message again"

9 - When I connect my digital camera, Vista automatically opens MS Word (??)
and then tells me that "Word doesn't support this device" (!!) XP
automatically opened my digital camera software (Zoom Browser) -- now that
was smart.

8 - My printer (a Samsung ML-1740) is apparently not supported. At least,
it didn't work out of the box. The same printer is automatically configured
in LINUX! Jesus! I thought hardware compatibility and ease of use was the
main benefit of Windows! I guess I was wrong. Maybe it's greater access to
viruses and spyware?

7 - It's a power hog. Despite changing the power settings, it still kills
my notebook battery at least 30% faster than XP.

6 - It commonly drops my wireless network connection, which I cannot get
back without rebooting. I very rarely lost this connection in XP, and never
had to reboot to reconnect.

5 - My hard drive seems to be in use continuously, even when the system is
idle. WHY?

4 - My bluetooth, integrated camera and fingerprint reader are recognized by
the system and "working properly" according to device manager, but they don't
work at all.

3 - Often after resuming, my sound card hangs, producing a continuous
"skipping" noise. In order to fix this, I have to reboot.

2 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me suppress
or ignore this message, it keeps popping up!

1 - MS doesn't offer a way to revert to XP (even though the installation
process spends a lot of time copying my old XP files to windows.old -- what's
the point of backing up old system files if there's no way to undo the
upgrade??)

I can't believe that MS calls this a "release candidate." It's terrible.
If you're thinking of upgrading, think again. Vista is bulky, unstable, and
as of yet I haven't discovered any features that make it worth the trouble.
Stay away!

(In case any developers at MS are reading this, I'm using a Vaio SZ-120 P/B
notebook, with all of the standard hardware. I hope, for your sake, that you
can build a better product.)

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T

Travis King

10. I kind of agree with you in a different way - too many dialog boxes
that you have to go around - it really hurts being productive. You spend
more time doing security things and maintenance to your computer now than
you do actually using your computer.

9. Not having this issue here.

8. My Canon i560 works great in Vista. Vista picked it up and installed it
right away, without any discs - XP couldn't do that.

7. Not on a laptop, so I can't tell you what the results are here.

6. Not on a wireless connection - I'm on a LAN, so again, can't tell you
the results here.

5. My hard drive seems fine here. It is a little bit more active in Vista
than XP, but not a lot more.

4. My computer does not have bluetooth.

3. When I resume my computer from sleep, my screen resolution always
defaults back to 800x600, so I have to go in the properties and change it
back to 1280x1024 - annoying.

2. Ditto here. It does this to msconfig after changing a setting and my
ATI Catalyst Control Center. It gets on my nerves. Normal users are going
to have troubles with this.

1. I see your point, but it's always better to do a clean install anyway.

There are good things and bad things about Vista, I would call Vista 'Beta
3' right now. It's getting pretty stable and a lot faster than Beta 2, but
it still has quite a few glitches. I know a release candidate will likely
never be perfect, but it should be close. I feel that Vista has a lot of
potential, but it will only be really good if they can smash some of these
bugs. I hope MS spends more time on Vista, even though it doesn't sound
like it. We're only a month away from when MS is expected to have Vista go
gold now. I really hope they can pull it off, and have a quality product.
Seeing how drastically things improved since Beta 2 in only a few months, I
guess it's possible.
 
J

John Barnes

Bet you are using the Vista 86. Your i560 wouldn't work on Vista 64.
One problem in this group is telling which version (86 or 64) a poster is
talking about.
 
K

Keith

Graham said:
Top 10 things I hate about Vista

10 - Dialog boxes keep popping up, even after I click "do not show me this
message again"

9 - When I connect my digital camera, Vista automatically opens MS Word
(??)
and then tells me that "Word doesn't support this device" (!!) XP
automatically opened my digital camera software (Zoom Browser) -- now that
was smart.

8 - My printer (a Samsung ML-1740) is apparently not supported. At least,
it didn't work out of the box. The same printer is automatically
configured
in LINUX! Jesus! I thought hardware compatibility and ease of use was
the
main benefit of Windows! I guess I was wrong. Maybe it's greater access
to
viruses and spyware?

7 - It's a power hog. Despite changing the power settings, it still kills
my notebook battery at least 30% faster than XP.

6 - It commonly drops my wireless network connection, which I cannot get
back without rebooting. I very rarely lost this connection in XP, and
never
had to reboot to reconnect.

5 - My hard drive seems to be in use continuously, even when the system is
idle. WHY?

4 - My bluetooth, integrated camera and fingerprint reader are recognized
by
the system and "working properly" according to device manager, but they
don't
work at all.

3 - Often after resuming, my sound card hangs, producing a continuous
"skipping" noise. In order to fix this, I have to reboot.

2 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
suppress
or ignore this message, it keeps popping up!

1 - MS doesn't offer a way to revert to XP (even though the installation
process spends a lot of time copying my old XP files to windows.old --
what's
the point of backing up old system files if there's no way to undo the
upgrade??)

I can't believe that MS calls this a "release candidate." It's terrible.
If you're thinking of upgrading, think again. Vista is bulky, unstable,
and
as of yet I haven't discovered any features that make it worth the
trouble.
Stay away!

(In case any developers at MS are reading this, I'm using a Vaio SZ-120
P/B
notebook, with all of the standard hardware. I hope, for your sake, that
you
can build a better product.)

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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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Hey know you know how Linux desktop users feel!
 
M

Moonlight

Top 15 things I hate about Vista

1 - My printer was not supported, even though it came with my PC, when I
bought it. So I had to download a vista compatible driver, & now the printer
may or may not work, when you need it. Same my scanner & tablet. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

2 - It keeps giving dialog boxes that says "USB device not recognized" even
though my printer, tablet, ect. has been loaded with the correct drivers,
that I had to download, because they didn't come with the devices. It also
occasionally says the device "is not" installed, when it decides to work, & I
can go open then the printers/other devices folder & it is there. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

4 - When I connect my digital camera, or music player, Vista automatically
opens a folder & starts downloading everything that's on them, even when I
don't want it too. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

5 - Dialog boxes keep popping up, even after I click "do not show me this
message again" (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

6 - My hard drive seems to be in use continuously, even when the system is
idle. WHY?

7 - Whenever I go to troubleshoot why a device or program isn't wanting to
work, it says it's "working properly" according to device manager, but they
don't
work at all or might work 5 minutes later & it seems to "pick" what program
it wants to work with. (I. E. If it works it might work with word pad 1
minute then 5 minutes later it might not & work with notepad then) (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me suppress
or ignore this message, it keeps popping up! (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
solutions to fix them. (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

10 - I can't open more than one window/tab/ect. on my browsers or messenger
without them closing or messing up. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING &
ANNOYING!)

11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes off
then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display driver
failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day. When
the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible. (This is EXTREMELY
ANNOYING! Because when the monitor comes back on I most likly have a messed
up art piece or document!)

12 - It puts downloads & scanned things into whatever folder it wants to,
even though, I've set the folders that I want them to go to. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING! Because then I have to search for them!)

13 - It may or may not, run games, art programs, ect. when you need them to,
or they might not work properly, even though they are Vista compatible. (This
is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

14 - It's hard to find compatible security, other softwares, games, or
devices that are deemed "compatible" with Vista. (This is EXTREMELY
FRUSTRATING!)

15 - It may or may not read burned CDs, USB, devices, or flash drives. with
files, music, photos, ect. saved on older windows versions. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The bad thing is, in 2007 "ALL NEW PCS, MACS, ect." comes with some form of
Vista on them & I was unfortunate enough to have to get 1 new PC at that
time. I had to have a new PC, I was missing out on a lot of waiting art
projects.

MS if you read this, VISTA SUCKS! You should send out XP on ALL new PCs,
MACS, ect. with the option of an upgrade to Vista. Not just put it on there &
expect it to work right & people love it! It's so full of glitches, & messes
up hardware, software, ect.
 
G

Gordon

Moonlight said:
Top 15 things I hate about Vista

1 - My printer was not supported, even though it came with my PC, when I
bought it. So I had to download a vista compatible driver, & now the
printer
may or may not work, when you need it. Same my scanner & tablet. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

My eight-year old printer works fine after installing the Vista driver - did
you research this before you bought Vista?
2 - It keeps giving dialog boxes that says "USB device not recognized"
even
though my printer, tablet, ect. has been loaded with the correct drivers,
that I had to download, because they didn't come with the devices. It also
occasionally says the device "is not" installed, when it decides to work,
& I
can go open then the printers/other devices folder & it is there. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

Did you research the hardware compatibility first?
3 - It commonly drops my internet connection, which I cannot get
back without rebooting. I never had to reboot to reconnect with XP. (This
is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

Doesn't do that here.....
4 - When I connect my digital camera, or music player, Vista
automatically
opens a folder & starts downloading everything that's on them, even when I
don't want it too. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

Have you set the Autoplay option that comes up? Obviously not.
5 - Dialog boxes keep popping up, even after I click "do not show me this
message again" (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

WHAT "dialog boxes"?
6 - My hard drive seems to be in use continuously, even when the system is
idle. WHY?

Don't know - have you looked at Process Manager to find out? (Sheeeesh)
7 - Whenever I go to troubleshoot why a device or program isn't wanting to
work, it says it's "working properly" according to device manager, but
they
don't
work at all or might work 5 minutes later & it seems to "pick" what
program
it wants to work with. (I. E. If it works it might work with word pad 1
minute then 5 minutes later it might not & work with notepad then) (This
is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

8 - Vista keeps telling me that it's "blocked some startup programs" but
won't let me unblock these programs manually. It also won't let me
suppress
or ignore this message, it keeps popping up! (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

Doesn't happen here........
9 - I keep getting program error messages, that MS doesn't have any
solutions to fix them. (This is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!)

WHAT "program error messages"?
10 - I can't open more than one window/tab/ect. on my browsers or
messenger
without them closing or messing up. (This is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING &
ANNOYING!)

And have you posted this in the relevant news group?
11 - I can be in the middle of working on something & the monitor goes off
then comes back on & a dialog box/bubble pops up & says "The display
driver
failed, & has recovered" & it does this, I'd say 30-50 time in a day.
When
the display driver is up to date & Vista compatible. (This is EXTREMELY
ANNOYING! Because when the monitor comes back on I most likly have a
messed
up art piece or document!)

Sounds like a video card problem - did you research this before buying?
12 - It puts downloads & scanned things into whatever folder it wants to,
even though, I've set the folders that I want them to go to. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING! Because then I have to search for them!)

RUBBISH! I have NEVER known ANY OS (whether Windows, Linux or Unix) put
downloads into any folder other than the one you tell it to....
13 - It may or may not, run games, art programs, ect. when you need them
to,
or they might not work properly, even though they are Vista compatible.
(This
is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING & ANNOYING!)

Oh dear, so sad.
14 - It's hard to find compatible security, other softwares, games, or
devices that are deemed "compatible" with Vista. (This is EXTREMELY
FRUSTRATING!)
Rubbish.


15 - It may or may not read burned CDs, USB, devices, or flash drives.
with
files, music, photos, ect. saved on older windows versions. (This is
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING!)

That happens with ANY OS if the CD is not finalised - NEVER in my experience
with any other sort of removable media.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The bad thing is, in 2007 "ALL NEW PCS, MACS, ect." comes with some form
of
Vista on them & I was unfortunate enough to have to get 1 new PC at that
time. I had to have a new PC, I was missing out on a lot of waiting art
projects.

Ummm Macs do NOT come with Vista......
MS if you read this, VISTA SUCKS! You should send out XP on ALL new PCs,
MACS, ect. with the option of an upgrade to Vista. Not just put it on
there &
expect it to work right & people love it! It's so full of glitches, &
messes
up hardware, software, ect.

I suggest you pack up your machine in the box it came in, return it to the
place you bought it, and ask the nice man to swap it for a Gameboy....
 
N

Nonny

I suggest you pack up your machine in the box it came in, return it to the
place you bought it, and ask the nice man to swap it for a Gameboy....

Please don't feed the trolls.
 
N

Nonny

And you have evidence that the OP is a troll?

Any post in one of the Vista groups which has hating Vista in its
subject line qualifies as a "troll" post in my book. It serves to do
nothing but stir up controversy. Classic trolling.
 
G

Gordon

Nonny said:
Any post in one of the Vista groups which has hating Vista in its
subject line qualifies as a "troll" post in my book. It serves to do
nothing but stir up controversy. Classic trolling.


You obviously have never inhabited comp.os.linux.advocacy then, have you?
 
G

Gordon

Nonny said:
WTF does that have to do with anything?


It means that what YOU "think" is a troll is not necessarily, if your only
experience is in this group.
 
A

Adam Albright

My eight-year old printer works fine after installing the Vista driver - did
you research this before you bought Vista?

Oh no, not the laughable 'did you do research' line of crap again.

Hint to fanboys everywhere:

Two of the major printer manufacturers, Epson and HP have told
Microsoft to shove Vista where the sun don't shine and will not be
updating drivers for their entire printer line, including some models
that were released as little as 12 months ago.

Worse, if you would have bothered to read some of the confidential
internal emails I linked to in a federal law suit Microsoft big shits
admitted they knew the drivers they were planning on including on the
Vista DVD while they should run basic printer features, meaning you
could print, they admitted many of the bells and whistles of printers
and scanners were NOT supported meaning any hapless user tricked into
"upgrading" to Vista would lose features of his printer/scanner
previously supported under XP and be forced to run out and buy a new
printer if he needed it fully supported, which duh, was probably why
many bought a particular make/model in the first place.

Maybe you should do better research buddy.

I'm never surprised by the often repeated fanboy stupidity, arrogance
and blind devotion to Microsoft no matter how often they get stabbed
in the back. They mostly say thanks.
 
A

Adam Albright

And you have evidence that the OP is a troll?

You were the smartass that made the comment:

"I suggest you pack up your machine in the box it came in, return it
to the place you bought it, and ask the nice man to swap it for a
Gameboy...."

Troll? Maybe not. A typical fanboy jackass, you leave little doubt of
that.
 
A

Adam Albright

Any post in one of the Vista groups which has hating Vista in its
subject line qualifies as a "troll" post in my book. It serves to do
nothing but stir up controversy. Classic trolling.

Can't handle the truth, just cover your eyes.
 
D

DanS

Please don't feed the trolls.
Any post in one of the Vista groups which has hating Vista in its
subject line qualifies as a "troll" post in my book. It serves to do
nothing but stir up controversy. Classic trolling.

Looked like classic venting to me.
 
R

Robert Barnett

Here are my top 10 hates...

1. Windows Vista
2. UAC
3. Can't undock start bar tool bars like Quick Launch.
4. Insists on showing media related columns in Details views in dialog boxes
and Windows Explorer even after choosing a different view and telling
Windows to use that from now on.
5. The new programs group listing on the start menu. XP was way better and
more attractive.
6. The extra stuff you were supposed to get with Vista Ultimate turned out
to be a joke and a major rip-off. Support for other languages is not a good
bonus feature.
7. Vista still doesn't write data to hard drives in a non-fragmented way.
The disk defragmenter utility is now even lamer than before and just as
slow.
8. The disk management tool for partitioning and formatting hard drives is
really poor and doesn't proved feedback on how far along in the format
process you are.
9. Internet Explorer 7 is total animal droppings.
10. UAC
 
T

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Nonny said:
Any post in one of the Vista groups which has hating Vista in its
subject line qualifies as a "troll" post in my book. It serves to do
nothing but stir up controversy. Classic trolling.

Any post in one of the Vista groups which has a net nanny in it
qualifies as a "troll" post in my book. It serves to do nothing but
stir up controversy. Classic trolling.

Please do not respond to the troll Nonny anymore.

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101
 
N

Nonny

Looked like classic venting to me.

Possibly. But there's so much of that in the Vista groups - much MORE
than I can ever remember in the XP groups - that I've taken a
knee-jerk reaction stance on the matter.

In all my years online (coming up on 18), I've never had a killfile as
large as I do now - either by subject or by author.
 
N

Nonny

It means that what YOU "think" is a troll is not necessarily, if your only
experience is in this group.

I was doing Usenet when Fidonet was in vogue, sonny.
 

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