(05) Reallocated Sector Count 1 1 5 1882 Failed

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ANTant

I was using my computer (surfing the Web) and then XP told me delayed write failed. Then, I
loaded up HD Tune and SpeedFan separately to check SMART Status. They both showed a
failure. Here's HD tune:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 85 85 60 9044110 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 102 102 24 14221524 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 912 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 1 1 5 1882 Failed
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 98 98 0 14621 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 868 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C2) Temperature 130 130 0 1179690 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 1912 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Power On Time : 14621
Health Status : Failed


I rebooted my computer, and my BIOS complained about SMART status error. I am a bit scared.
Is this a warning that my old IBM HDD (got it installed on 9/9/2001 according to my
computer history) is failing? I am currently making a Ghost 2003 image backup of the drive
to bigger drive just in case.

Can anyone please tell me what this means and if I should get a new HDD right away to
replace it? Or ways to be sure that there is really a problem?

Thank you in advance.
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Rod Speed

I was using my computer (surfing the Web) and then XP
told me delayed write failed. Then, I loaded up HD Tune
and SpeedFan separately to check SMART Status.
They both showed a failure.

Damn, I've lost my mpg of the Death March |-(
Here's HD tune:
HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

Those aint called DeathStars for nuffin.
ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 85 85 60 9044110 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 102 102 24 14221524 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 912 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 1 1 5 1882 Failed

Fark, she's dead, Jim, you into necrophilia ?
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 98 98 0 14621 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 868 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C2) Temperature 130 130 0 1179690 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 1912 Ok

Fark, she's dead, Jim, you into necrophilia ?
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok
Power On Time : 14621
Health Status : Failed
I rebooted my computer, and my BIOS complained
about SMART status error. I am a bit scared.

You should be. In spades if you dont have proper backups.
Is this a warning that my old IBM HDD (got it installed
on 9/9/2001 according to my computer history) is failing?

That it's died, actually.
I am currently making a Ghost 2003 image
backup of the drive to bigger drive just in case.

You should have done that LONG ago with a 60GXP.
Can anyone please tell me what this means

That its died, Jim/Ant.
and if I should get a new HDD right away to replace it?
Yep.

Or ways to be sure that there is really a problem?

You've got that already.
Thank you in advance.
"... human societies send their young men to war, weaver-ant
societies send their old ladies." --Wilson and Holldobler

And India invented that rather ingenious solution to the surplus mother in law
problem, she goes on the funeral pyre with hubby, whether she wants to or not.
 
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ANTant

I was using my computer (surfing the Web) and then XP
Damn, I've lost my mpg of the Death March |-(
Those aint called DeathStars for nuffin.
Fark, she's dead, Jim, you into necrophilia ?
Fark, she's dead, Jim, you into necrophilia ?
You should be. In spades if you dont have proper backups.
That it's died, actually.
You should have done that LONG ago with a 60GXP.
That its died, Jim/Ant.
You've got that already.

I am using my friend's Seagate ST380011A 80 GB HDD for now. I was able to copy and restore
before it was too late. Whew. Since you said it should be dead, how come it still works? BIOS
and Windows were annoying me about the errors. I did notice Windows said a disk error at about
11:08 AM PDT:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 52
Date: 7/29/2006
Time: 11:08:32 AM
User: N/A
Computer: foobar
Description:
The driver has detected that device \Device\Harddisk1\DR1 has predicted that it will fail.
Immediately back up your data and replace your hard disk drive. A failure may be imminent.For
more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 0e 00 03 00 01 00 5e 00 ......^.
0008: 00 00 00 00 34 00 04 80 ....4..?
0010: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 11 2d 00 ......-.
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 ...

What's DR1??


Finally, that old IBM drive showed problems. Weird. Heh, both of my Quantum HDDs (6.4 GB before
12/1998 and 15 GB from 8/2000) are still alive and having no problems! Man, I miss Quantum. :(
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Alan Kakareka

Your HDD is about to fail because of too many relocated bad sectors. You
can disable SMART so it will not anoy you. You should run selfscan on HDD or
scan surfaces and put defects to P-list to heal your HDD

--
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Data Recovery Service
786-253-8286 cell
http://www.247recovery.com
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Rod Speed

I am using my friend's Seagate ST380011A 80 GB HDD for now.
I was able to copy and restore before it was too late. Whew.

Yeah, those 60GXPs can go down a lot more suddenly than that.

You must have stopped that furious grave dancing.
Since you said it should be dead, how come it still works?

Thats the way 60GXPs die.
BIOS and Windows were annoying me about the errors.

Yeah, those are the evidence that its dying.
I did notice Windows said a disk error at about 11:08 AM PDT:
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 52
Date: 7/29/2006
Time: 11:08:32 AM
User: N/A
Computer: foobar
Description:
The driver has detected that device \Device\Harddisk1\DR1 has
predicted that it will fail. Immediately back up your data and
replace your hard disk drive. A failure may be imminent.For more
information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. Data: 0000: 0e 00 03 00 01
00 5e 00 ......^. 0008: 00 00 00 00 34 00 04 80 ....4..?
0010: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 11 2d 00 ......-.
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 ...
What's DR1??

Drive 1.
Finally, that old IBM drive showed problems. Weird. Heh, both of my
Quantum HDDs (6.4 GB before 12/1998 and 15 GB from 8/2000)
are still alive and having no problems! Man, I miss Quantum. :(

Those 60GXPs werent called DeathStars for nuffin.

Generated a full class action suit.
 
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ANTant

Thanks. I already put the drive out of commission. I will keep it handy just in case though. I
did notice Ghost 2003 was only giving me about 480 MB/sec file transfer. That's only 8 MB/sec.
That sounds slow.


Alan Kakareka said:
Your HDD is about to fail because of too many relocated bad sectors. You
can disable SMART so it will not anoy you. You should run selfscan on HDD or
scan surfaces and put defects to P-list to heal your HDD
--
Alan Kakareka
Data Recovery Service
786-253-8286 cell
http://www.247recovery.com



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ANTant

I was using my computer (surfing the Web) and then XP
Yeah, those 60GXPs can go down a lot more suddenly than that.
You must have stopped that furious grave dancing.
:p
Thats the way 60GXPs die.

Ah. Well, it isn't dead yet! Hopefully, I will never have to know since I am using a drive
replacement.

Yeah, those are the evidence that its dying.

My first time I ever seen a SMART tell me something big is bad.


Weird, I never saw Windows say that before. I always see something like "\Device\Harddisk1\D"
in the past.

Those 60GXPs werent called DeathStars for nuffin.
Generated a full class action suit.

Heh, yeah but mine took forever to die. :)
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Arno Wagner

Previously said:
I was using my computer (surfing the Web) and then XP told me
delayed write failed. Then, I loaded up HD Tune and SpeedFan
separately to check SMART Status. They both showed a failure. Here's
HD tune:
HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health
ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 85 85 60 9044110 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 102 102 24 14221524 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 912 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 1 1 5 1882 Failed
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 98 98 0 14621 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 868 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C2) Temperature 130 130 0 1179690 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 1912 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok
Power On Time : 14621
Health Status : Failed


I rebooted my computer, and my BIOS complained about SMART status
error. I am a bit scared. Is this a warning that my old IBM HDD
(got it installed on 9/9/2001 according to my computer history) is
failing? I am currently making a Ghost 2003 image backup of the
drive to bigger drive just in case.
Can anyone please tell me what this means and if I should get a new
HDD right away to replace it? Or ways to be sure that there is
really a problem?

The SMART attributes are reliable if they are this clear. The drive
is dying. Replace it immediately and don't trust if for anything.

Arno
 
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Arno Wagner

Previously Alan Kakareka said:
Your HDD is about to fail because of too many relocated bad sectors. You
can disable SMART so it will not anoy you. You should run selfscan on HDD or
scan surfaces and put defects to P-list to heal your HDD

I seriously doubt this HDD can be "healed". It may be possible
to prolong its dying process a bit, but it is higly likely
that it will get more bad secors and exhaust its store of
spares soon. From then one each defective secotor means data
loss.

Arno
 
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ANTant

The SMART attributes are reliable if they are this clear. The drive
is dying. Replace it immediately and don't trust if for anything.

Already done. I have the IBM HDD on my desk in case I need to restore again if the replacement
one is bad.
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Rod Speed

Ah. Well, it isn't dead yet!

It will be, those 60GXPs always do once
they have developed that many bads.
Hopefully, I will never have to know
since I am using a drive replacement.

You should have a proper backup of the files you'll slash your wrists
if you lose, you wont necessarily get that sort of warning next time.
My first time I ever seen a SMART tell me something big is bad.

Yeah, most dont see too many hard drive failures and only a
subset of those can have SMART warn as the drive is dying.
Weird, I never saw Windows say that before. I always
see something like "\Device\Harddisk1\D" in the past.

Just due to the mix of drives currently in the system.
Heh, yeah but mine took forever to die. :)

The class action suit was about the percentage that ended up
dead, and the incapacity of IBM to deliver a viable replacement.
 
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ANTant

You should have a proper backup of the files you'll slash your wrists
if you lose, you wont necessarily get that sort of warning next time.

Actaully, I do back up but only my data and important files. :) I have been using this XP Pro.
SP2 since like 2001 with multiple motheboard upgrades (3-4?).

Yeah, most dont see too many hard drive failures and only a
subset of those can have SMART warn as the drive is dying.
Just due to the mix of drives currently in the system.

Ah.
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Folkert Rienstra

[snip]


I am using my friend's Seagate ST380011A 80 GB HDD for now.
I was able to copy and restore before it was too late.

What "was too late". It's still working isn't it.
Whew. Since you said it should be dead, how come it still works?

Because you obviously trolled him into saying that.
Wasn't he expected to say that when you set him up to say that?
BIOS and Windows were annoying me about the errors.

[snip]
 
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Irma

I seriously doubt this HDD can be "healed".

Your problem.
It may be possible to prolong its dying process a bit, but it is
higly likely that it will get more bad secors

Of course it will, if you don't stop what ever it was that caused
the current ones, and that isn't necessarily the drive's fault.
and exhaust its store of spares soon.

A few 100 thousand spares to go.
From then one each defective secotor means data loss.

Utterly clueless as always.

Every bad sector means data loss whether the drive has spares left or not,
you blithering babblebot.
 
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Folkert Rienstra

[snip]
Thats the way 60GXPs die.
Ah. Well, it isn't dead yet!
Hopefully, I will never have to know since I am using a drive replacement.
My first time I ever seen a SMART tell me something big is bad.

Bwahaha. 1800 relocated bad sectors, big?

S.M.A.R.T. started to complain because an attribute went below
it's treshold for some weird unexplained reason. That's all.

Your drive is confused but S.M.A.R.T. is too plain dumb to recognize it.
It goes off whenever the 'treshold exceeded' bit is set and doesn't care
what the actual numbers are.

[snip]
Heh, yeah but mine took forever to die. :)

"Ah. Well, it isn't dead yet!"

You are confused again. It's still 'dying'.
 
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Folkert Rienstra

I was using my computer (surfing the Web) and then XP told me delayed write failed. Then, I
loaded up HD Tune and SpeedFan separately to check SMART Status. They both showed a
failure. Here's HD tune:

HD Tune: IC35L040AVER07-0 Health

ID Current Worst ThresholdData Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 85 85 60 9044110 Ok
(02) Throughput Performance 100 100 50 0 Ok
(03) Spin Up Time 102 102 24 14221524 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 0 912 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 1 1 5 1882 Failed

That is weird. That is such a low (Data) count for that attribute to go from 100 to 1.
And since the threshold is 5 it must have gone from high to 1 directly or at least so
very fast that it went from 5 to 1 in just the time that it took you to check with tho-
se utes right from the moment that you noticed anything. That's not very believable.

More over, the Reallocated Event Count normalized value hasn't
even budged (still at 100), even though it too is at 1912 events.

I'd say your drive had a brainfart.
(07) Seek Error Rate 100 100 67 0 Ok
(08) Seek Time Performance 100 100 20 0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 98 98 0 14621 Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 100 60 0 Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 868 Ok
(C0) Power Off Retract Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C1) Load Cycle Count 100 100 50 912 Ok
(C2) Temperature 130 130 0 1179690 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 100 100 0 1912 Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 100 100 0 1 Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 100 100 0 0 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 200 0 0 Ok

Power On Time : 14621
Health Status : Failed
I rebooted my computer, and my BIOS complained about SMART status error.
I am a bit scared.
Is this a warning that my old IBM HDD (got it installed on 9/9/2001 according
to my computer history) is failing?

Well, at least that's what it is intended for.
I am currently making a Ghost 2003 image backup of the drive
to bigger drive just in case.
Can anyone please tell me what this means

Probably not since you have asked questions about S.M.A.R.T. several
times before and that you show to have nothing learned from that before.
and if I should get a new HDD right away to replace it?

Rather check why this harddrive suddenly went from OK to almost dead (ac-
cording to SMART) when you haven't noticed anything yourself (except that
one instance). Surely you would have noticed 1800 bad sectors occurring before.
Or ways to be sure that there is really a problem?

The ususal, which has been explained here hundreds of times:
Check Powersupply, check temperature.

Since this seems to be a fluke I would also check for a Firmware update.

You can let DFT Low Level Format the drive and see if the reallocated count
resets (or not).
 
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Arno Wagner

Your problem.
Of course it will, if you don't stop what ever it was that caused
the current ones, and that isn't necessarily the drive's fault.
A few 100 thousand spares to go.
Utterly clueless as always.
Every bad sector means data loss whether the drive has spares left or not,
you blithering babblebot.

Fascinating on how you manage to be incompetent even at things that
are easy and quite obvious. And how you are resistant to actually
checking things. Afraid you might find out that I actually know
what I am talking about?

Arno
 

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