Yahoo Mail useless -- try Gawab.com instead

[Blinky the Shark]

William de Haan wrote:

According to http://www.gawab.com/about.html the site has been active since
November 2000...

In the first place, I think William time-traveled into the past, there.
When *I* whois them, I get "Record created on 03-Sep-2002." Rethink
that "03", there, Wm.

As for the company's claim, possibly if it was reregistered to a new owner,
rather than just being renewed, in September 2002, that creation date
would have been reset from the claimed 2000.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

For people that does not want to change its e-mail address, and that
has POP3 access to yahoo mail (paid or not), I did a bot to solve the
problem for myself, but I have made it publicly available so other
people can also use it.

Nice going!

http://www.geocities.com/sfandino/

It deletes the mails from the mailbox without downloading them, just
looking at the headers and the first message lines. It can also be
configured to send abuse reports with ricochet.

You will need a Unix/Linux machine to run it... well, its a perl
script so somebody could port it to Windows.

It wouldn't work on an MS machine with perl installed?

I hope it helps (it would also work with any POP3 server, not only
with Yahoo)

You might think about offering this over on comp.mail.misc, too, Salvador.

 

[William de Haan]

Hmmmmmm. Seems to have been there for others.

How many others used Opera without cookies, without Java, and without
Javascript?

Meaning you think they rewrote it, overnight, to accomodate Opera (which
wouldn't have been necessary with a compliant site in the first place,
of course)?

That seems kind of doubtful. If they were one of the browser-specific
sites, that mentality would've probably lasted the night.

I doubt that anyone would bother with a rewrite. It could be as simple as a
one line HTML error that Opera caught and the other browsers didn't, such as
an unclosed table. A ten second fix to change one line, I could believe.
I've seen it before on other sites (www.msn.com in particular).

Assuming the misplaced binary shows a lack of graphic containing the reg
check information, it is visible in Mozilla, here, but not in Opera.

Which tends to support the idea that they are making (false) assumptions
about browser behaviour.

 

[William de Haan]

In the first place, I think William time-traveled into the past, there.
When *I* whois them, I get "Record created on 03-Sep-2002." Rethink
that "03", there, Wm.

I already agreed that I made a mistake with that. I just misread the 2002 as
being 2003.

As for the company's claim, possibly if it was reregistered to a new owner,
rather than just being renewed, in September 2002, that creation date
would have been reset from the claimed 2000.

Quite possible. My own domain (deus.com) was registered in 1995, but a WHOIS
shows it to have been "created" last year (after gawab.com's, in fact),
thanks to an error on the part of Network Solutions, where I had to
"re"-register it last year when I renewed it.

 

[TW]

---snip

Sharky's followup, in part:

Good research, William. All in all, this makes other options look pretty good.

Sharky and other Gentlemen,
I just signed up with accounts at 1) www.mail.com and 2)
www.myway.com. Had I done it in the reverse order, I would not have
done the mail.com account. They collect a lot of personal information
and have a lot of ads. They will also give your information to
mail.com agents, or whatever they call them (short attention span)
Their FAQ does, however, say that you do not have to give them your
real name. That's kind of strange; recall that it was a topic on the
group recently.

On the other hand, My Way collects only your first name, and has zero
ads. They are a company with considerable scruples; before
BellSouth.net developed their portal, they used a branded My Way
portal. That's a fact, I was there.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

On 24 Sep 2003 06:40:19 GMT, Blinky the Shark <[email protected]>
wrote:

Sharky's followup, in part:

Which has since been partially rescinded, as we've all probably noted.
Something about...uh...the site having been rewritten overnight.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

On 24 Sep 2003 19:22:27 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

How many others used Opera without cookies, without Java, and without
Javascript?

I'd say, "not many".

I doubt that anyone would bother with a rewrite. It could be as simple as a
one line HTML error that Opera caught and the other browsers didn't, such as
an unclosed table. A ten second fix to change one line, I could believe.
I've seen it before on other sites (www.msn.com in particular).

That's stil a pretty short time span for the fix to be discovered and
corrected, you hafta admit.

Which tends to support the idea that they are making (false) assumptions
about browser behaviour.

I dislike the guys that write for MS instead of standards as much as you do.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

On 24 Sep 2003 19:33:24 GMT, Blinky the Shark wrote:

I already agreed that I made a mistake with that. I just misread the 2002 as
being 2003.

Hadn't seen the retraction yet. Usenet doesn't represent perfect
ordering.

Quite possible. My own domain (deus.com) was registered in 1995, but a WHOIS
shows it to have been "created" last year (after gawab.com's, in fact),
thanks to an error on the part of Network Solutions, where I had to
"re"-register it last year when I renewed it.

Did it somehow become unregistered in error, or was the mistake of a
different nature?

 

[Mister Charlie]

Sharky's followup, in part:
pretty good.

Sharky and other Gentlemen,
I just signed up with accounts at 1) www.mail.com and 2)
www.myway.com. Had I done it in the reverse order, I would not have
done the mail.com account. They collect a lot of personal information
and have a lot of ads. They will also give your information to
mail.com agents, or whatever they call them (short attention span)
Their FAQ does, however, say that you do not have to give them your
real name. That's kind of strange; recall that it was a topic on the
group recently.

On the other hand, My Way collects only your first name, and has zero
ads. They are a company with considerable scruples; before
BellSouth.net developed their portal, they used a branded My Way
portal. That's a fact, I was there.

I was on myway too until this latest round of email spam occured. They
have done nothing to eliminate it and in fact is the only email service
I have that was totally 100% bombarded and has been for a week. I got a
few dribbled into aol and yahoo is getting its fair share but nothing
like myway. Too bad, I liked it too but now I'll just let the clogged
accounts die and go somewhere else (I opened a new account and within an
hour it too was flooded with spam emails. Ridiculous.)

 

[Moon]

Okay, let's put this to rest -- I worked it out. William was NOT signing
up for the FREE e-mail service, but for the FREE webmaster service, which
includes only a 4 MB mailbox, and requires a telephone number, active web
site, and so on. He was NOT creating a new free 15 MB mail account for
USERS as seen at the left-hand side of the Gawab.com site.

So it's all just been one big misunderstanding!

I agree, i set up an account, set up the proper protocols and it wors
like a charm Moon

 

[Salvador Fandino]

It wouldn't work on an MS machine with perl installed?

I'm working on it now

You might think about offering this over on comp.mail.misc, too, Salvador.

thank you for the pointer, I will.

Bye,

- Salva

 

[BoB]

I went to Yahoo to do some research on their free email accounts.
On one page I saw a Verisign Ad.
I used Yahoo search on 'verisign'.

I found a lead to: http://www.aetherlumina.com/verisignsucks.html
On that page it says:
formerly known as ? The Network Solutions Sucks Page ?
they merged with VeriSign

Another lead was to headlines that Verisign is being sued.

I decided I don't really need a Yahoo mailbox since Verisign
recently become one of the 'bad guys'..

BoB
For the duration of Swen, my address is inoperative.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

I went to Yahoo to do some research on their free email accounts.
On one page I saw a Verisign Ad.
I used Yahoo search on 'verisign'.

I found a lead to: http://www.aetherlumina.com/verisignsucks.html
On that page it says:
formerly known as ? The Network Solutions Sucks Page ?
they merged with VeriSign

Another lead was to headlines that Verisign is being sued.

I dunno who else might be, but I got some email from GoDaddy, the
other day, and they, at least are suing VeriSign.

 

[Claude Metz]

I don't think this is off-topic, and it will definitely help some of you!

I've been using Yahoo Mail for years. However, with all these viruses coming
out lately, my Yahoo mailbox has become filled to capacity (6 MB) within a
2-hour period. This means all legit mail coming in overnight (while I sleep)
is being bounced and thus I never see it. EXTREMELY ANNOYING!

I contacted Yahoo to see if they can offer a way to delete filtered mail instead
of just sending it to the Trash (which counts towards the 6 MB limit) and they
said no. Fine.

So I just found out about Gawab.com -- and I'm glad I did! This is a FREE e-mail
service that gives you a 15 MB mailbox (compared to Yahoo's measly 6) and powerful
filtering options -- INCLUDING DELETING OF UNWANTED MAIL INSTEAD OF TRASHING IT!

Better still -- you can access such mail with any POP client -- such as Outlook,
Outlook Express, Eudora, etc. No need for a third-party app like YahooPOPs,
ePrompter, Web2Pop, etc. And because this POP support is provided, your mail
downloads to your e-mail client much quicker than parsing a web-based account!

So if you're sick of your Yahoo Mailbox being filled with viruses, give this a go.

Footnote: I opened an account at gawab.com on Sept. 23, 4 days ago,
and I have used it to send and receive every day. But this morning,
mails are bouncing: "account has been closed because of inactivity."
So much for gawab! For an alternative to Yahoo, I suggest
myrealbox.com instead. It has a 10mb mailbox, no advertising, pop3
and smtp access, and *best of all* you can set up filters that will
automatically delete the spam and swen garbage based on key words.
The service is unreliable at times but it is worth it.