XP firewall

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Scottie

The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
"Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
a firewall of my own?
 
C

Conny

Scottie said:
The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
"Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
a firewall of my own?

Network-Advanced- Enable/Disable firewall
 
B

brushes

Conny said:
put

Network-Advanced- Enable/Disable firewall

that was debatable advice from Priceless, A new system without the clients
installs & misconfigurations is probably the ideal base for an SP2 install,
they obviously didn't want to take the time. However follow threads in other
groups re sp2 problems and how to 'roll-back'. Bear in mind that the
'pre-sp2' firewall is reasonably efficient at what it does but there are
limitations in that it works in one direction only. Install the free version
of zonealarm and run that as well, it is simple to configure it so that they
do not conflict and there is an excellent forum at the zonelabs site where
you can get help with configuraion issues.

If you are concerned about security then you will also install spybot S&D as
well as adaware & spywareblaster, keeping them all up to date. Additionally
either Avast or AVG free anti-virus programs. Your choice is based on system
footprint of either program with avast being higher. Moving into the realm
of greater safety download and install firefox web browser and set it as
your default browser. Even if you do not use Internet Explorer it is such a
leaky sieve that just being there can leave you open to vulnerabilities so
follow the guidelines here;


https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/btw/ie/ie-opts.htm

to lock the thing down completely. Once you've done that you can download
thunderbird e-mail client and Outlook Express can be left on the shelf too.

Once you've done that go to www.grc.com and run sheildsup, if you have
questions about the results go to the grc newsgroups and ask, they are very
helpful.

If you follow the above then you have largely, but not completely, negated
the need for SP2 so you get some safe time to read up on all the issues
concerning what is, for about 17% of all users, an unmitigated disaster. If
you follow the above then your PC is in a very secure condition however all
that can be undermined by a single, careless download.

B
 
R

Roo

Yeah I ran XP Pro and SP1, in conjunction with zone alarm and it worked
fine, with xp firewall enabled, all last year.
Roo
 
J

John Coutts

The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
"Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
a firewall of my own?
********************** REPLY SEPARATER *************************
Disabling Microsoft's Firewall software is a wise idea, but if you want a
proper firewall, use a hardware appliance (such as a NAT router) rather than
software. Software is prone to glitches and attack.

To turn off the Microsoft firewall, click <Start>, <Run>, and type in
<services.msc>. Find the <Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS)> service, right click on it, stop the service, and
then disable it.

This is only one of many services that should be disabled. For more info see:

http://server2.yellowhead.com/xpcfg1.htm

J.A. Coutts
 
D

David H. Lipman

Which has nothing to do with this News Group !

Dave




| The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
| "Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
| glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
| firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
| a firewall of my own?
|
|
 
K

kurt wismer

Scottie said:
The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
"Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
a firewall of my own?

there's no need to disable it - it should be able to co-exist with
other firewalls...
 
K

kurt wismer

David said:
| The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
| "Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
| glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
| firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
| a firewall of my own?
|
Which has nothing to do with this News Group !

firewalls have plenty to do with this group... or do you think
firewalls don't help stop things like blaster?
 
D

David H. Lipman

Did I miss that in his question ?

Where was RPC/DCOM even a part of his statement ?

Was even the concept of a worm activity even part of the question ?

If the question was on the ability of the XP built-in FireWall to block infectors such
Lovsan/Blaster or Sasser I could see your point. However, it was a purely Windows XP
question. That's it.

Dave




| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
| > | > | The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
| > | "Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
| > | glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
| > | firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
| > | a firewall of my own?
| > |
| > Which has nothing to do with this News Group !
|
| firewalls have plenty to do with this group... or do you think
| firewalls don't help stop things like blaster?
|
| --
| "maxwell can tell he's in hell
| just wants you to visit him there
| same old game that he's playin'
| his rules are never fair"
 
M

madmax

kurt said:
there's no need to disable it - it should be able to co-exist with other
firewalls...
I also use Windows Firewall along with Sygate Firewall-they seem to work
fine together running XP Pro SP2
-max
--
To help you stay safe see: http://www.geocities.com/maxpro4u/madmax.html
This message is virus free as far as I can tell.
Change nomail.afraid.org to neo.rr.com so you can reply by e-mail
(nomail.afraid.org has been set up specifically for
use in Usenet. Feel free to use it yourself.)
 
K

kurt wismer

David said:
| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
| > | > | The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
| > | "Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
| > | glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
| > | firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
| > | a firewall of my own?
| > |
| > Which has nothing to do with this News Group !
|
| firewalls have plenty to do with this group... or do you think
| firewalls don't help stop things like blaster?
|
Did I miss that in his question ?

Where was RPC/DCOM even a part of his statement ?

Was even the concept of a worm activity even part of the question ?

was there something written in stone that says this group is only about
fixing problems after they happen rather than helping people prevent
them before they happen?
If the question was on the ability of the XP built-in FireWall to block infectors such
Lovsan/Blaster or Sasser I could see your point. However, it was a purely Windows XP
question. That's it.

it's a question on firewalls, and as firewalls do help prevent certain
types of infections, firewalls (and more specifically how to
activate/deactivate/use firewalls) are on-topic here...
 
D

David H. Lipman

Then it should have been posted in a FireWall News Group.

It should have been posted in; microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

Just because there is a slight overlap of FireWalls with virus discussions because worms use
network protocols does not excuse an extremely generic OS based questions such as this one.
It was purely a WinXP SP2 question and I see no relation to what was posed to this News
Group. Same with the query "How safe is the on-screen keyboard?" just because there is a
slight overlap of COMSEC to virus discussions does not excuse a purely security related
question.

I don't mind if the questions are answered. I just think the posters need to know there are
News Groups specific to their topic of query or if their post is completely Off topic. All
that is needed is a disclaimer or qualification with the reply.

Dave





| David H. Lipman wrote:
| > | David H. Lipman wrote:
| > |
| > | > | > | > | The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
| > | > | "Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
| > | > | glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
| > | > | firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
| > | > | a firewall of my own?
| > | > |
| > | > Which has nothing to do with this News Group !
| > |
| > | firewalls have plenty to do with this group... or do you think
| > | firewalls don't help stop things like blaster?
| > |
| > Did I miss that in his question ?
| >
| > Where was RPC/DCOM even a part of his statement ?
| >
| > Was even the concept of a worm activity even part of the question ?
|
| was there something written in stone that says this group is only about
| fixing problems after they happen rather than helping people prevent
| them before they happen?
|
| > If the question was on the ability of the XP built-in FireWall to block infectors such
| > Lovsan/Blaster or Sasser I could see your point. However, it was a purely Windows XP
| > question. That's it.
|
| it's a question on firewalls, and as firewalls do help prevent certain
| types of infections, firewalls (and more specifically how to
| activate/deactivate/use firewalls) are on-topic here...
|
| --
| "maxwell can tell he's in hell
| just wants you to visit him there
| same old game that he's playin'
| his rules are never fair"
 
K

kurt wismer

David H. Lipman wrote:
[correcting malformed usenet article]
| it's a question on firewalls, and as firewalls do help prevent certain
| types of infections, firewalls (and more specifically how to
| activate/deactivate/use firewalls) are on-topic here...
|
Then it should have been posted in a FireWall News Group.

It should have been posted in; microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

well if we're going to be such sticklers about this sort of thing, your
responses belong in alt.whining...
Just because there is a slight overlap of FireWalls with virus discussions because worms use
network protocols does not excuse an extremely generic OS based questions such as this one.
It was purely a WinXP SP2 question and I see no relation to what was posed to this News
Group. Same with the query "How safe is the on-screen keyboard?" just because there is a
slight overlap of COMSEC to virus discussions does not excuse a purely security related
question.

this is an unmoderated group that deals with a wide variety of
*malware* (not just virus) issues... the effective deployment of
firewalls is a worm (and by extension virus) prevention issue as that
is the major reason people on windows boxes uses them... the on-screen
keyboard question was asked in the context of keeping secret data safe
from keylogging trojans... both are relevant here...
I don't mind if the questions are answered. I just think the posters need to know there are
News Groups specific to their topic of query or if their post is completely Off topic. All
that is needed is a disclaimer or qualification with the reply.

yes, there are groups that specialize in X, Y, and Z... a.c.v. and
a.c.a-v. happen to be groups that specialize in malware and like it or
not, when people want information from a malware-centric point of view,
this is where they're going to come (where they ought to come even)...
 
M

Mike Henley

Scottie said:
The new computer I got a few days ago only has SP1 on it as the shop
"Priceless" doesn't recommend loading SP2 as they said it has to many
glitches at the moment. What I want to know is, does SP1 have the XP
firewall installed in it and if it does how do I disable it as I have put in
a firewall of my own?

I recommend you get SP2 regardless, the glitches only affect a few,
and likelihood is that you won't experience any problems with it, i
have it running on my machine and i'm not going back to pre-sp2.

As for a firewall, get kerio personal firewall 4. It's my favorite.
 
M

Mike Henley

kurt wismer said:
David H. Lipman wrote:
[correcting malformed usenet article]
| it's a question on firewalls, and as firewalls do help prevent certain
| types of infections, firewalls (and more specifically how to
| activate/deactivate/use firewalls) are on-topic here...
|
Then it should have been posted in a FireWall News Group.

It should have been posted in; microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

well if we're going to be such sticklers about this sort of thing, your
responses belong in alt.whining...

LOL
 

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