WMM2 as [free] Nannycam

G

Guest

WMM2's "Capture time limit" options of 1-23 hours makes it an excellent [and
free] Nannycam for millions of parents worldwide. Problem is...WMM2 aborts
the capture with common Logitech webcams if screensaver or lock-computer is
activated. We don't want the nanny/babysitter seeing themselves on the
monitor screen.

Question for everyone: How do we capture with a common Logitech webcam when
either screensaver or lock-computer is activated for stealth?

If even one little kid is rescued using WMM2 as a Nannycam...it will be
worth our time to solve this simple question.
 
W

Wojo

Many webcams come with software that takes a picture whenever it senses
movement, I know my Intel webcam did, so maybe try googling for something
like that.
 
R

Rehan

Webcam Timershot Powertoy for Windows XP
This PowerToy lets you take pictures at specified time intervals from a
Webcam connected to your computer and save them to a location that you
designate.

<http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TimershotPowertoySetup.exe>


--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker




Wojo said:
Many webcams come with software that takes a picture whenever it senses
movement, I know my Intel webcam did, so maybe try googling for something
like that.

bookadams said:
WMM2's "Capture time limit" options of 1-23 hours makes it an excellent
[and
free] Nannycam for millions of parents worldwide. Problem is...WMM2
aborts
the capture with common Logitech webcams if screensaver or lock-computer
is
activated. We don't want the nanny/babysitter seeing themselves on the
monitor screen.

Question for everyone: How do we capture with a common Logitech webcam
when
either screensaver or lock-computer is activated for stealth?

If even one little kid is rescued using WMM2 as a Nannycam...it will be
worth our time to solve this simple question.
 
G

Guest

Thanks Rehan!

Sounds like an excellent application for pictures. Because a nannycam uses
video I think that WMM2 is the ideal solution if we can figure out a way of
capturing from a common Logitech webcam while either screensaver or
lock-computer is activated. WMM2's "Capture time limit" 1-23 hours option is
already there...just need to figure out how to activate screensaver or
lock-computer during those 1-23 hours.

-Book

Rehan said:
Webcam Timershot Powertoy for Windows XP
This PowerToy lets you take pictures at specified time intervals from a
Webcam connected to your computer and save them to a location that you
designate.

<http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TimershotPowertoySetup.exe>


--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker




Wojo said:
Many webcams come with software that takes a picture whenever it senses
movement, I know my Intel webcam did, so maybe try googling for something
like that.

bookadams said:
WMM2's "Capture time limit" options of 1-23 hours makes it an excellent
[and
free] Nannycam for millions of parents worldwide. Problem is...WMM2
aborts
the capture with common Logitech webcams if screensaver or lock-computer
is
activated. We don't want the nanny/babysitter seeing themselves on the
monitor screen.

Question for everyone: How do we capture with a common Logitech webcam
when
either screensaver or lock-computer is activated for stealth?

If even one little kid is rescued using WMM2 as a Nannycam...it will be
worth our time to solve this simple question.
 
R

Rehan

It seems you are pretty much stuck on this idea. Note that WMM was not
designed for "nanny-camming" (is that a word?). Any use of it for such a
purpose is coincidental. Therefore the limits you mention exist in MM by
design since to have those limits made more sense (to its designers) for its
primary purpose. For example if a video capture was going along and a
processor intensive screensaver kicked in, that would have resulted in
severe drop of quality and frame rate. Your argument that because it allows
a time-limit capture is all that is needed, is not good enough. A nanny cam
application requires a lot more than that.

Windows Media Encoder is also capable of timelimit capture and on top of
that it can stream the video over the internet. So i would argue it is more
appropriate for nanny camming if at all.

There exist many other proper applications and systems designed specifically
for nanny camming. Why dont you want to use those? Ah... because they cost a
bit? Is your child's safety and well being so unimportant that you just want
to consider free applications such as WMM which only has a limited feature
set for nanny camming?

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker



bookadams said:
Thanks Rehan!

Sounds like an excellent application for pictures. Because a nannycam uses
video I think that WMM2 is the ideal solution if we can figure out a way
of
capturing from a common Logitech webcam while either screensaver or
lock-computer is activated. WMM2's "Capture time limit" 1-23 hours option
is
already there...just need to figure out how to activate screensaver or
lock-computer during those 1-23 hours.

-Book

Rehan said:
Webcam Timershot Powertoy for Windows XP
This PowerToy lets you take pictures at specified time intervals from a
Webcam connected to your computer and save them to a location that you
designate.

<http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TimershotPowertoySetup.exe>


--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker




Wojo said:
Many webcams come with software that takes a picture whenever it senses
movement, I know my Intel webcam did, so maybe try googling for
something
like that.

WMM2's "Capture time limit" options of 1-23 hours makes it an
excellent
[and
free] Nannycam for millions of parents worldwide. Problem is...WMM2
aborts
the capture with common Logitech webcams if screensaver or
lock-computer
is
activated. We don't want the nanny/babysitter seeing themselves on the
monitor screen.

Question for everyone: How do we capture with a common Logitech webcam
when
either screensaver or lock-computer is activated for stealth?

If even one little kid is rescued using WMM2 as a Nannycam...it will
be
worth our time to solve this simple question.
 
G

Guest

Thank you Rehan!

I AM pretty much stuck on this idea. WMM2 is installed on millions of XP
computers around the world. WMM2 already provides for "Capture time limit" of
1-23 hours. The dozen commercial software offerings currently available cost
$50, are based upon Windows Media Encoder, and include confusing e-mail
alerts, streaming, webserver configuration behind the firewall, and
remote-viewing frills. Millions of at-risk children worldwide live in homes
that can't afford the $50 and can't understand 10 pages of "how to configure
your new nannycam behind Windows Firewall.

My children are grown and I personally don't want/need a nanny or
babysitter. But millions of parents worldwide for many reasons have a need
for a simple minimalist Nannycam and WMM2 is already on their computers.
Imagine if Microsoft tweaked WMM2 and advertised this free additional
function. Your point is well taken that Microsoft intentionally disabled
screensaver during the 1-23 hour capture option to avoid processing drain.
But P4 computers today can easily handle this load. I think that if even one
child was rescued by Windows [unrealized] Nannycam it would be worth
Microsoft's programming time to tweak WMM2. I do remain stuck on this idea.
I want Microsoft to provide the world with a simple minimalist [and free]
Nannycam for the masses by tweaking WMM2. I then want them to advertise that
new function.

Thank you Rehan for contributing your thoughtful comments!


Rehan said:
It seems you are pretty much stuck on this idea. Note that WMM was not
designed for "nanny-camming" (is that a word?). Any use of it for such a
purpose is coincidental. Therefore the limits you mention exist in MM by
design since to have those limits made more sense (to its designers) for its
primary purpose. For example if a video capture was going along and a
processor intensive screensaver kicked in, that would have resulted in
severe drop of quality and frame rate. Your argument that because it allows
a time-limit capture is all that is needed, is not good enough. A nanny cam
application requires a lot more than that.

Windows Media Encoder is also capable of timelimit capture and on top of
that it can stream the video over the internet. So i would argue it is more
appropriate for nanny camming if at all.

There exist many other proper applications and systems designed specifically
for nanny camming. Why dont you want to use those? Ah... because they cost a
bit? Is your child's safety and well being so unimportant that you just want
to consider free applications such as WMM which only has a limited feature
set for nanny camming?

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker



bookadams said:
Thanks Rehan!

Sounds like an excellent application for pictures. Because a nannycam uses
video I think that WMM2 is the ideal solution if we can figure out a way
of
capturing from a common Logitech webcam while either screensaver or
lock-computer is activated. WMM2's "Capture time limit" 1-23 hours option
is
already there...just need to figure out how to activate screensaver or
lock-computer during those 1-23 hours.

-Book

Rehan said:
Webcam Timershot Powertoy for Windows XP
This PowerToy lets you take pictures at specified time intervals from a
Webcam connected to your computer and save them to a location that you
designate.

<http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TimershotPowertoySetup.exe>


--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker




Many webcams come with software that takes a picture whenever it senses
movement, I know my Intel webcam did, so maybe try googling for
something
like that.

WMM2's "Capture time limit" options of 1-23 hours makes it an
excellent
[and
free] Nannycam for millions of parents worldwide. Problem is...WMM2
aborts
the capture with common Logitech webcams if screensaver or
lock-computer
is
activated. We don't want the nanny/babysitter seeing themselves on the
monitor screen.

Question for everyone: How do we capture with a common Logitech webcam
when
either screensaver or lock-computer is activated for stealth?

If even one little kid is rescued using WMM2 as a Nannycam...it will
be
worth our time to solve this simple question.
 
J

J. Daniel Smith

Can you support your claim of "Millions of at-risk children"? How much
money do you think Microsoft would actually have to spend to modify WMM2 in
the manner you describe? $100,000? $10 million? $1 billion? Would you
support Microsoft's efforts by spending $20 on a "Plus" package?

Even a "simple" code change can be VERY expensive when you have a user-base
the size of Windows XP. And while your goal of rescuing "even one child" is
laudable, the approach you're advocating may not make business sense.
Microsoft is already behind on the eight-ball on Longhorn; but you might
possibly have a bit more success encouraging them to tweak the LH version of
Windows Movie Maker (although that would take away your reason of "WMM2 is
installed in millions of XP computers").

And what if Microsoft could provide "simple minimalist [and free] Nannycam"
by a means other than "tweaking WMM2"? Would that be acceptable? WMM2 is
designed to be a simple easy-to-use video editing tool; even the supported
SDK/API to expand/enhance WMM2 is fairly limited.

Since you've already conceded that a reasonably powerful P4 computer (and
hence costing around $500) is required for your scheme, it's hard to argue
that people owning such a computer (and presumably paying at least $20/month
for a high-speed internet connection-you've got to be able to stream the
video, right?) can't afford $50 for a commercial nanny-cam package.

Dan

bookadams said:
Thank you Rehan!

I AM pretty much stuck on this idea. WMM2 is installed on millions of XP
computers around the world. WMM2 already provides for "Capture time limit"
of
1-23 hours. The dozen commercial software offerings currently available
cost
$50, are based upon Windows Media Encoder, and include confusing e-mail
alerts, streaming, webserver configuration behind the firewall, and
remote-viewing frills. Millions of at-risk children worldwide live in
homes
that can't afford the $50 and can't understand 10 pages of "how to
configure
your new nannycam behind Windows Firewall.

My children are grown and I personally don't want/need a nanny or
babysitter. But millions of parents worldwide for many reasons have a need
for a simple minimalist Nannycam and WMM2 is already on their computers.
Imagine if Microsoft tweaked WMM2 and advertised this free additional
function. Your point is well taken that Microsoft intentionally disabled
screensaver during the 1-23 hour capture option to avoid processing drain.
But P4 computers today can easily handle this load. I think that if even
one
child was rescued by Windows [unrealized] Nannycam it would be worth
Microsoft's programming time to tweak WMM2. I do remain stuck on this
idea.
I want Microsoft to provide the world with a simple minimalist [and free]
Nannycam for the masses by tweaking WMM2. I then want them to advertise
that
new function.

Thank you Rehan for contributing your thoughtful comments!


Rehan said:
It seems you are pretty much stuck on this idea. Note that WMM was not
designed for "nanny-camming" (is that a word?). Any use of it for such a
purpose is coincidental. Therefore the limits you mention exist in MM by
design since to have those limits made more sense (to its designers) for
its
primary purpose. For example if a video capture was going along and a
processor intensive screensaver kicked in, that would have resulted in
severe drop of quality and frame rate. Your argument that because it
allows
a time-limit capture is all that is needed, is not good enough. A nanny
cam
application requires a lot more than that.

Windows Media Encoder is also capable of timelimit capture and on top of
that it can stream the video over the internet. So i would argue it is
more
appropriate for nanny camming if at all.

There exist many other proper applications and systems designed
specifically
for nanny camming. Why dont you want to use those? Ah... because they
cost a
bit? Is your child's safety and well being so unimportant that you just
want
to consider free applications such as WMM which only has a limited
feature
set for nanny camming?

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker



bookadams said:
Thanks Rehan!

Sounds like an excellent application for pictures. Because a nannycam
uses
video I think that WMM2 is the ideal solution if we can figure out a
way
of
capturing from a common Logitech webcam while either screensaver or
lock-computer is activated. WMM2's "Capture time limit" 1-23 hours
option
is
already there...just need to figure out how to activate screensaver or
lock-computer during those 1-23 hours.

-Book

:

Webcam Timershot Powertoy for Windows XP
This PowerToy lets you take pictures at specified time intervals from
a
Webcam connected to your computer and save them to a location that you
designate.

<http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TimershotPowertoySetup.exe>


--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker




Many webcams come with software that takes a picture whenever it
senses
movement, I know my Intel webcam did, so maybe try googling for
something
like that.

WMM2's "Capture time limit" options of 1-23 hours makes it an
excellent
[and
free] Nannycam for millions of parents worldwide. Problem is...WMM2
aborts
the capture with common Logitech webcams if screensaver or
lock-computer
is
activated. We don't want the nanny/babysitter seeing themselves on
the
monitor screen.

Question for everyone: How do we capture with a common Logitech
webcam
when
either screensaver or lock-computer is activated for stealth?

If even one little kid is rescued using WMM2 as a Nannycam...it
will
be
worth our time to solve this simple question.
 
K

KDE

Millions of at-risk children worldwide live in homes
that can't afford the $50 and can't understand 10 pages of "how to configure
your new nannycam behind Windows Firewall.

while your intentions are indeed honorable, I too agree you may be going
about this the wrong way. First of all, your argument that people can't
afford a small piece of software doesn't hold up. 1) these people have
already afforded a computer, and a web cam, surely a minimal investment into
the right piece of software is not out of the questions and 2) there are
MANY MANY free alternatives to what you are trying to do that were designed
for this purpose. Just because you haven't figured out how to use Windows
media encoder, doesn't mean it is too complicated, in fact, If you use the
wizzard it is probabbly easier to use for most people than figuring out how
to use moviemaker for the first time. there are also hundreds of webcam
applications (some free) which will time capture, hide in the background,
stream pictures or movies, allow for remote administration, email alerts,
motion sensor, time stamp, multiple cameras (for multiple rooms or multiple
views in the same room.) and can be very easy to set up.
 
G

Guest

Thank you Dan for your thoughtful feedback. Anyone who watches the 10 o'clock
news sees frequent video clips of all kinds of human victimization. WMM2
already IS an excellent Nannycam with "Capture time limit" of 1-23 hours. It
just needs to be tweaked by Microsoft so that during those 1-23 hours the
screensaver can be activated. That's all I'm asking. Microsoft is sitting on
$30-billion-dollars in cash and can obviously afford this little tweak. They
can deploy it automatically in the next Windows Update.

You seem bent on preserving the elite WMM2 for turning Little Angel's
birthday party movie into a Hollywood Masterpiece but recoil when poor
parents may need to capture Little Angel's babysitter on video tossing her
around like a ragdoll for crying while mommy is at work? Why can't the poor
have a free Nannycam while you have a free Movie Production Studio? You
didn't pay $50...why should they..for the same WMM2 program? Again, thank you.

J. Daniel Smith said:
Can you support your claim of "Millions of at-risk children"? How much
money do you think Microsoft would actually have to spend to modify WMM2 in
the manner you describe? $100,000? $10 million? $1 billion? Would you
support Microsoft's efforts by spending $20 on a "Plus" package?

Even a "simple" code change can be VERY expensive when you have a user-base
the size of Windows XP. And while your goal of rescuing "even one child" is
laudable, the approach you're advocating may not make business sense.
Microsoft is already behind on the eight-ball on Longhorn; but you might
possibly have a bit more success encouraging them to tweak the LH version of
Windows Movie Maker (although that would take away your reason of "WMM2 is
installed in millions of XP computers").

And what if Microsoft could provide "simple minimalist [and free] Nannycam"
by a means other than "tweaking WMM2"? Would that be acceptable? WMM2 is
designed to be a simple easy-to-use video editing tool; even the supported
SDK/API to expand/enhance WMM2 is fairly limited.

Since you've already conceded that a reasonably powerful P4 computer (and
hence costing around $500) is required for your scheme, it's hard to argue
that people owning such a computer (and presumably paying at least $20/month
for a high-speed internet connection-you've got to be able to stream the
video, right?) can't afford $50 for a commercial nanny-cam package.

Dan

bookadams said:
Thank you Rehan!

I AM pretty much stuck on this idea. WMM2 is installed on millions of XP
computers around the world. WMM2 already provides for "Capture time limit"
of
1-23 hours. The dozen commercial software offerings currently available
cost
$50, are based upon Windows Media Encoder, and include confusing e-mail
alerts, streaming, webserver configuration behind the firewall, and
remote-viewing frills. Millions of at-risk children worldwide live in
homes
that can't afford the $50 and can't understand 10 pages of "how to
configure
your new nannycam behind Windows Firewall.

My children are grown and I personally don't want/need a nanny or
babysitter. But millions of parents worldwide for many reasons have a need
for a simple minimalist Nannycam and WMM2 is already on their computers.
Imagine if Microsoft tweaked WMM2 and advertised this free additional
function. Your point is well taken that Microsoft intentionally disabled
screensaver during the 1-23 hour capture option to avoid processing drain.
But P4 computers today can easily handle this load. I think that if even
one
child was rescued by Windows [unrealized] Nannycam it would be worth
Microsoft's programming time to tweak WMM2. I do remain stuck on this
idea.
I want Microsoft to provide the world with a simple minimalist [and free]
Nannycam for the masses by tweaking WMM2. I then want them to advertise
that
new function.

Thank you Rehan for contributing your thoughtful comments!


Rehan said:
It seems you are pretty much stuck on this idea. Note that WMM was not
designed for "nanny-camming" (is that a word?). Any use of it for such a
purpose is coincidental. Therefore the limits you mention exist in MM by
design since to have those limits made more sense (to its designers) for
its
primary purpose. For example if a video capture was going along and a
processor intensive screensaver kicked in, that would have resulted in
severe drop of quality and frame rate. Your argument that because it
allows
a time-limit capture is all that is needed, is not good enough. A nanny
cam
application requires a lot more than that.

Windows Media Encoder is also capable of timelimit capture and on top of
that it can stream the video over the internet. So i would argue it is
more
appropriate for nanny camming if at all.

There exist many other proper applications and systems designed
specifically
for nanny camming. Why dont you want to use those? Ah... because they
cost a
bit? Is your child's safety and well being so unimportant that you just
want
to consider free applications such as WMM which only has a limited
feature
set for nanny camming?

--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker



Thanks Rehan!

Sounds like an excellent application for pictures. Because a nannycam
uses
video I think that WMM2 is the ideal solution if we can figure out a
way
of
capturing from a common Logitech webcam while either screensaver or
lock-computer is activated. WMM2's "Capture time limit" 1-23 hours
option
is
already there...just need to figure out how to activate screensaver or
lock-computer during those 1-23 hours.

-Book

:

Webcam Timershot Powertoy for Windows XP
This PowerToy lets you take pictures at specified time intervals from
a
Webcam connected to your computer and save them to a location that you
designate.

<http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/Install/2/WXP/EN-US/TimershotPowertoySetup.exe>


--
Rehan
MS MVP -- Digital Media
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows Movie Maker




Many webcams come with software that takes a picture whenever it
senses
movement, I know my Intel webcam did, so maybe try googling for
something
like that.

WMM2's "Capture time limit" options of 1-23 hours makes it an
excellent
[and
free] Nannycam for millions of parents worldwide. Problem is...WMM2
aborts
the capture with common Logitech webcams if screensaver or
lock-computer
is
activated. We don't want the nanny/babysitter seeing themselves on
the
monitor screen.

Question for everyone: How do we capture with a common Logitech
webcam
when
either screensaver or lock-computer is activated for stealth?

If even one little kid is rescued using WMM2 as a Nannycam...it
will
be
worth our time to solve this simple question.
 
G

Guest

Thank you KDE for your thoughtful response. WMM2 already IS an excellent
Nannycam with "Capture time limit" of 1-23 hours. It's already installed on
everyone's computer so there is no need for concerned parents to learn media
encoding, pay $50 for commercial software, or waste time searching for the
"free" software that does not exist in reality.

No, It appears that some elite WMM2 artists might want to keep it just for
making Little Angel's birthday party movie into a Hollywood Masterpiece and
restrict any possibility of a concerned parent using it to catch the
babysitter tossing Little Angel around like a ragdoll for crying while mommy
is at work.

Microsoft should tweak WMM2 so that their "Capture time limit" 1-23 hours
can work behind a screensaver, deploy this tweak via the next Windows Update,
and then widely advertise this free Nannycam to the masses.
 
R

Rehan

bookadams wrote:
....
and then widely advertise this free Nannycam to the masses.

Hahaha. Now you are contradicting your own cause.... The "masses" would
include the nanny herself. The first thing she would do ehn she arrives
at your house, is pull the plug or just move the camera away. In some
cases the child molester can be real clever and she can easily obtain
access to the captured file and edit it to replace the bad scenes with
good ones. On the other hand a parent who develops some grudge against
an honest child minder can easily frame her by cooking evidence against
her on his PC (after all this is a video editing package).

All these are just some of the scenarios to be taken account of when
designing a nanny cam. WMM is not a nannycam application.

Your sole argument is that it has a special feature of time limited
capture of 1 to 23 hours. Lets suppose you set the limit to be 2 hours,
what happens to the child abuse that occurs after the 2 hours limit?

Furthermore I dont see this to be such a useful feature anyway. Why
can't the parents let WMM record everything without timelimit and switch
the capture off only when they arrive back. This would atleast ensure
that the full session was recorded.

I am sorry you have received not a single positive response to your
grand scheme of protecting the helpless children of poverty strucken
parents. Pity. Either all of us are bent on child molesting or perhaps
it may be so that the scheme itself has the flaws we keep pointing out.
Take your pick. (Though we know which one you will be picking).
 
G

Guest

Thank you Rehan for your thoughtful feedback.

It is perhaps unfortunate to characterize the motives of all members of the
WMM2 forum. Four members have resisted the screensaver tweak to WMM2. The
real reason a little added button that says "click here if you want to use
screensaver during time-limit capture" is resisted by four members of the
WMM2 Forum escapes me.

Adding a screensaver mode in addition to the default no-screensaver mode
would provide millions of concerned parents with an excellent simple
Nannycam. WMM2 is already installed on millions of computers and concerned
parents already own an excellent simple Nannycam. It's called Windows Movie
Maker 2. It just needs this simple screensaver tweak.
 
K

KDE

saying that members of the forum are resisting a change to moviemaker is
absurd. If you read the posts again, you will see that the people that have
responded to you have all supported your efforts to make "millions" of
children safer, but have tried to point out to you that there are already
other, better suited ways to accomplish what you want. the simple fact
is...you are trying to use moviemaker for a purpose it was not designed for.
IF you can make it work for your needs GREAT, if not, open your mind a
little bit and take some of the advice offered to you by the nice people of
this forum, and look for a better solution. The people who respond here are
not MICROSOFT, they do not write the programs, asking for a change to a
program here is like asking the clerk at the convenience store to change the
packaging of coca-cola. if you want to use moviemaker as a hidden webcam
software and do not want your un-trusted nanny to be able to see what you
are doing, take the power cord to the monitor with you when you leave the
house, or use a program that was designed to do what you need.



| Thank you Rehan for your thoughtful feedback.
|
| It is perhaps unfortunate to characterize the motives of all members of
the
| WMM2 forum. Four members have resisted the screensaver tweak to WMM2. The
| real reason a little added button that says "click here if you want to use
| screensaver during time-limit capture" is resisted by four members of the
| WMM2 Forum escapes me.
|
| Adding a screensaver mode in addition to the default no-screensaver mode
| would provide millions of concerned parents with an excellent simple
| Nannycam. WMM2 is already installed on millions of computers and concerned
| parents already own an excellent simple Nannycam. It's called Windows
Movie
| Maker 2. It just needs this simple screensaver tweak.
|
|
|
|
|
| "Rehan" wrote:
|
| > bookadams wrote:
| > ....
| > > and then widely advertise this free Nannycam to the masses.
| >
| > Hahaha. Now you are contradicting your own cause.... The "masses" would
| > include the nanny herself. The first thing she would do ehn she arrives
| > at your house, is pull the plug or just move the camera away. In some
| > cases the child molester can be real clever and she can easily obtain
| > access to the captured file and edit it to replace the bad scenes with
| > good ones. On the other hand a parent who develops some grudge against
| > an honest child minder can easily frame her by cooking evidence against
| > her on his PC (after all this is a video editing package).
| >
| > All these are just some of the scenarios to be taken account of when
| > designing a nanny cam. WMM is not a nannycam application.
| >
| > Your sole argument is that it has a special feature of time limited
| > capture of 1 to 23 hours. Lets suppose you set the limit to be 2 hours,
| > what happens to the child abuse that occurs after the 2 hours limit?
| >
| > Furthermore I dont see this to be such a useful feature anyway. Why
| > can't the parents let WMM record everything without timelimit and switch
| > the capture off only when they arrive back. This would atleast ensure
| > that the full session was recorded.
| >
| > I am sorry you have received not a single positive response to your
| > grand scheme of protecting the helpless children of poverty strucken
| > parents. Pity. Either all of us are bent on child molesting or perhaps
| > it may be so that the scheme itself has the flaws we keep pointing out.
| > Take your pick. (Though we know which one you will be picking).
| >
| > --
| > Rehan
| > MS MVP (Digital Media)
| > www.rehanfx.org -- get effects & transitions for MM2
| >
 
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Thank you KDE for your thoughtful feedback!

It is heartwarming that "all supported" the efforts to make millions of
children safer by using WMM2 as a free Nannycam for the masses! Now if
Microsoft will only allow the screensaver while in Capture time-limit mode...
 
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Guest

bookadams said:
Thank you KDE for your thoughtful feedback!

It is heartwarming that "all supported" the efforts to make millions of
children safer by using WMM2 as a free Nannycam for the masses! Now if
Microsoft will only allow the screensaver while in Capture time-limit mode...

"KDE" wrote:

It may sound rather simple but, why do you need the monitor to be on? MM2
can record without the monitor and no one would know it was working.
 

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