winxp to join win98 network - problem

[Sean Cleary]

Hi,
I have a new laptop. It has WinXP on it.
I have a 2 computer and a switch win98 network. I can not see the WinXp
machine; it can not see me when it I try.
I have the workgroups all named the same.
I may have changed some setting or other that will prevent me from
networking.
I have all the gateway settings and port settings at variations on
192.1681.x where x is 1&2 for the older machines and 3 for the LAN 1394
connection. I have a Broadcom 440x 10/100 integrated LAN connection
that has an address of 192.168.0.1.

I really do not know which of these two connections is attached to the
J45 jack, and thereby to the cable to the switch.

The Broadcom connection said that it is repaired. The 1394 connection
said that TCP/IP is not enabled for this connection.

I have modified the 98 machines to have gateways that could use the
addresses of either LAN.

I do not have a network cert., and only completed half of A+ long ago.
XP is mostly new to me

I have tried pinging, I have made a *.bat file that will do that from
dos on the 98 machines.

Please help,
Sean

 

[Chuck]

Hi,
I have a new laptop. It has WinXP on it.
I have a 2 computer and a switch win98 network. I can not see the WinXp
machine; it can not see me when it I try.
I have the workgroups all named the same.
I may have changed some setting or other that will prevent me from
networking.
I have all the gateway settings and port settings at variations on
192.1681.x where x is 1&2 for the older machines and 3 for the LAN 1394
connection. I have a Broadcom 440x 10/100 integrated LAN connection
that has an address of 192.168.0.1.

I really do not know which of these two connections is attached to the
J45 jack, and thereby to the cable to the switch.

The Broadcom connection said that it is repaired. The 1394 connection
said that TCP/IP is not enabled for this connection.

I have modified the 98 machines to have gateways that could use the
addresses of either LAN.

I do not have a network cert., and only completed half of A+ long ago.
XP is mostly new to me

I have tried pinging, I have made a *.bat file that will do that from
dos on the 98 machines.

Please help,
Sean

Sean,

What you're talking about is a common problem with Windows 98 and Windows XP on
the same LAN - the browser on both doesn't work well together. Here's my
discussion on the subject:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html

Does your network access the Internet? If so, start by making sure that all
computers can access the Internet, that will test the wiring issue. Get that
out of the way. Read how to solve network problems.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html

How did the pinging go, from both computers? Packets received? Packets lost?
Unable to find host?

 

[Sean Cleary]

Thank you, the problem is solved.
Sean

 

[Chuck]

Thank you, the problem is solved.
Sean

Sean,

That's good news. But knowing what you did, to solve the problem, can help
dozens like you in the future.

Support the online community - provide details.

 

[Sean Cleary]

I got advice from my brother, and from other groups.
Some like this:
The integrated LAN connection uses the RJ45 jack. Remove the IP
address from the LAN 1394 (Firewire) connection. Assign 192.168.1.3
to the integrated LAN connection.

some over here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt....q="sean+cleary"&rnum=2&hl=en#4508056df29ed937
(watch the wrap-around)(not wanting to cross post, I posted to 4 news
groups. The titles are similar except for the last word, so you can
find them)

I am really not sure what in particular solved this problem.
Realizing that the addresses I used were formed like 192.168.1.x
helped, so to resolve that .1. I had to use 255.255.0.0 or stop using
that 1. Putting sequential addresses helped too. My brother advized
that I find the *host.sam files and make changes in them according to
their instructions (associating an address with a name), as well as
changing each name to a simple no-spaces word may have helped. Getting
all the computers in the same workgroup may have helped.

There were some serious reverses. At one time one of the 98 computers
would not ping. (I developed a ping batch file for dos for all 3
computers, likewise for the ip config command)
And just getting all 3 computers to ping each other was a help. Finding
the MS-DOS command on the xp machine was interesting, as well as
finding all the small problems.

Some of the problems solved along the way were: XP had so many places
to put an address, so I put sequential addrs in each. One 98 machine
had an 'Internet connection sharing' adapter and protocol in the
network properties. Putting an address there shut down that machine
from the net. This took several tries to find and change back.
The XP firewall is down, and exiting the XP control panel throws up an
error on a file. But most of the problem is fixed.

Along the way I went through a troubleshooting wizard for each of XP
and 98. It did not help, but may be a useful checklist for others.

Sean