Windows2000 problems.

[HPO Jury = Malenoid]

I find such posts interesting because I had the mirror-image
experience: from inception of my current system (vintage 2000,
Win98SE, with McAfee preloaded) I had put up with certain
slowdowns, some of them drastic, which I assumed had to do
with Win98 (yup, I'd still been running Win3.1). Eventually, a
McAfee update totally screwed my system and I tried NAV.
Lo and behold, "way faster" as Shiperton puts it, as Win98SE
and my applications were freed from the McAfee yoke. I
wouldn't go back. If I have eventually to abandon NAV, it
will be to some lesser-used product such as posters have
mentioned in the last few days.

I need to disable Mcafee before scanning with Spybot S&D because of
the severe slow-down it causes the scan.

NAV has the same issue but it's not nearly as bad. It might get stuck
for a while while scanning a file (C2LOP typically) but then it
proceeds on.

--

"Sensations are merely an awareness of the present
and cannot be retained beyond the immediate moment."
Ayn Rand

"Music is the only phenomenon that permits an adult
to experience the process of dealing with pure sense
data. Single musical tones are not percepts, but
pure sensations; they become percepts only when
integrated."

Ayn Rand

 

[John]

Yes, force every customer to ROLLBACK their LiveUpdate and then TWO
DAYS LATER when the Verisign fix is available force them all to
install the same Update again. Makes perfect sense to me.

Oh, and about that government conspiracy theory...

--

"Sensations are merely an awareness of the present
and cannot be retained beyond the immediate moment."
Ayn Rand

"Music is the only phenomenon that permits an adult
to experience the process of dealing with pure sense
data. Single musical tones are not percepts, but
pure sensations; they become percepts only when
integrated."

Ayn Rand

Yep, that would have been a shitload better than
going thru all this crap, searching to find out how
to fix it...

 

[John]

Lol, assuming that would work. Ok, here's a new LiveUpdate because we
want to make it appear like it was all our fault, when we don't even
know what the issue is yet and we're just looking into it and its
still the same day. I wonder how long it takes to prepare LiveUpdate
rollbacks? Is there a special program for this. Is it like the XP
rollback feature? If there is no such thing as a LiveUpdate rollback,
can they code up one quickly, alpha/beta test it, and then send it out
on the very same day? Hell, why not? It's no harder than frying up
hamburgers or something. It doesn't matter that they didn't know what
the problem was as of 1-7 (or 7-1 depending on where you live), they
should still have rolled out the LiveUpdate rollback, whatever that
is.
--

"Sensations are merely an awareness of the present
and cannot be retained beyond the immediate moment."
Ayn Rand

"Music is the only phenomenon that permits an adult
to experience the process of dealing with pure sense
data. Single musical tones are not percepts, but
pure sensations; they become percepts only when
integrated."

Ayn Rand

Just liveupdate us back to the previous version. Too hard?

Too hard for you and Symantec. Piece of cake for any organised software
developer.

 

[Shiperton Henethe]

Yes, force every customer to ROLLBACK their LiveUpdate and then TWO
DAYS LATER when the Verisign fix is available force them all to
install the same Update again. Makes perfect sense to me.

Oh, and about that government conspiracy theory...

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

Like access to a telephone, I need my email every day.
EVERY day. This is no part-time joke.
I am running a business here.

Yes we want a fix immediately. Hours count.
There is no forcing involved. But give us the
*option* of having a working email system, please.



Ship

 

[HPO Jury = Malenoid]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

Like access to a telephone, I need my email every day.
EVERY day. This is no part-time joke.
I am running a business here.

Yes we want a fix immediately. Hours count.
There is no forcing involved. But give us the
*option* of having a working email system, please.

There is no excuse for not having a backup computer (or even just a
backup plan), if your email is so important.
--

"Sensations are merely an awareness of the present
and cannot be retained beyond the immediate moment."
Ayn Rand

"Music is the only phenomenon that permits an adult
to experience the process of dealing with pure sense
data. Single musical tones are not percepts, but
pure sensations; they become percepts only when
integrated."

Ayn Rand

 

[Shiperton Henethe]

There is no excuse for not having a backup computer (or even just a
backup plan), if your email is so important.

That is a fair point I confess.

I do indeed have a backup computer...

I guess I have been dragging my feet over giving
Micro$oft yet more money for a third instance
of my Office2002 (the second being used up on
my home computer). Also it's an old dog-slow
machine. Had I known how the day was going to
play out I would have switched to it.

But with 20 second right-clicks I was thinking
my entire pc was about to die - and spent most of
the day manfully fighting to save it.

Had I known it was just an anti-virus update
blunder, yes I would have done something different!


Ship

 

[HPO Jury = Malenoid]

That is a fair point I confess.

I do indeed have a backup computer...

I guess I have been dragging my feet over giving
Micro$oft yet more money for a third instance
of my Office2002 (the second being used up on
my home computer). Also it's an old dog-slow
machine. Had I known how the day was going to
play out I would have switched to it.

But with 20 second right-clicks I was thinking
my entire pc was about to die - and spent most of
the day manfully fighting to save it.

Had I known it was just an anti-virus update
blunder, yes I would have done something different!

"Anti-virus update blunder" or whatever you want to blame, it sounds
to me like saving your computer from possibly crashing was more
important to you than doing the e-mail bit. But if you possibly wanted
to sue some company for lost income, I sincerely doubt that going
after Symantec would get you anywhere since it is not in the
certificate business, Verisign is.

Why was it again that you needed to right-click so much? Were you
checking the properties on files and folders?
--

"Sensations are merely an awareness of the present
and cannot be retained beyond the immediate moment."
Ayn Rand

"Music is the only phenomenon that permits an adult
to experience the process of dealing with pure sense
data. Single musical tones are not percepts, but
pure sensations; they become percepts only when
integrated."

Ayn Rand

 

[Shiperton Henethe]

"Anti-virus update blunder" or whatever you want to blame, it sounds
to me like saving your computer from possibly crashing was more
important to you than doing the e-mail bit. But if you possibly wanted
to sue some company for lost income, I sincerely doubt that going
after Symantec would get you anywhere since it is not in the
certificate business, Verisign is.

Why was it again that you needed to right-click so much? Were you
checking the properties on files and folders?

What is your problem with this?
Do you work for Symantec or something?!
If so you are doing too little too late!!

No it wasnt just right clicking that was the problem.
It was taking over two minutes just to open Excel by itself.

A major corporation might be able to sue.

Me I just moved to McAfee instead.
No regrets so far. My whole PC is now running very much faster.
However I am suspicious of the infrequency of Virus
definition updates so far.


Ship