Windows Xp Updates /SP2 -how to backup? HELP!!

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Hi everyone. Could you please read through EVERYTHING. Otherwise you won't be
able to answer my questions, as it was the case already 4 times now.

My first request was:

Hi everyone!
My problem is the following: I regularly download the
newest windows as well as office updates. However, when
it comes to formating the computer, which I do once a
year, all these updates are naturally erased and I have
to download them again. This usually involves a few
hundred MBs and as my monthly download limit is 1GB this
may cause a problem.
Therefore, I would like to know if there is a possibility
to store the update setup files and just install them
again after formating without having to download them
over and over again. Does that possibility exist, where
can I find those vital update setup files???

Please help me,
Adam


I got an answer by Stephen:

MS has a page where you can download SP2 which includes
SP1 and store it on your hard drive. The Service Packs for
Office are also downloadable. When given a choice between
Save and Run, you choose Save and download the file to disk.

You must have a cd-writer so that you can burn backup cds.
You can "slipstream" windows xp with SP2. This software
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=188337
is very easy to use. The combo will all get installed in one shot.

Your other software updates, new firmware, new drivers
should be downloaded and stored on your drive within
folders that are named clearly. Then you use software
like Nero or Roxio to write those files from the hard drive
to a cd using a cd-writer which records the files. CD-writers
make backups of your system which you can store on 6-12
Cds which are cheap, you don't need what they call rewritable.
A cd-rom which will write files to a cd is a must for any user
who does serious work on a modern computer. The software
is easy to use.

Regards,
Stephen


But then new questions turned up:
Could you please answer as many as you can? PLEASE!!!

Hi Stephen,
I thought my first reply was lost as I accidentally pressed close, so I had
to write it all again. This is the newer and better version.
Thanks a lot for your quick response and the helpful information!!
First of all, from what I understand, the downloadable version of SP2 is
meant for deployment to multiple computers over a network, whereas SP2 for a
single computer is yet to come.
Secondly, are you 100% sure that SP2 includes SP1 as well as all other
previous windows updates?
Is it the same with Microsoft Office? Does SP3 include all previous updates?
About the “slipstreaming†windows xp with SP2: Do you mean to say that it is
possible for me to merge my windows XP CD with SP2 and thus create an image
file containing both by using the software offered at
“http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=188337� Should I then burn
the image on CD and use it to format my pc or could that be risky? Is it
safer to first install windows normally and only then to update it with SP2?
Despite the fact that you think that windows updates are stored within
clearly labeled folders on my hard drive, I still can’t seem to find them.
Could you perhaps name their default location?
Another upsetting fact is that loads of so-called “XP Hotfixes†are listed
in my “add or remove programsâ€. I suspect them to be my downloaded updates.
However, as it is possible to uninstall them, doesn’t that mean that their
components must be stored somewhere, hopefully even as exe setup files, which
I could, were I to finally find them, easily store on my external USB hard
drive or onto a CD as you suggested? Even more confusing is the fact that
many Hotfixes have (SP2) written next to them, whereas it still says
“Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 1†in my System
Properties.
Please help me out one more time,
Adam Schneider


If you think you can help me with some of the last questions please don't
hesitate to reply!!
Thank you very very much in advance,
Adam
 
K

kurttrail

Adam Schneider wrote:

First of all, from what I understand, the downloadable version of SP2 is
meant for deployment to multiple computers over a network, whereas SP2 for
a
single computer is yet to come.

That's just MS's way to scare computer morons to turn on Auto Update. The
IT SP2 will do the same thing as what you will get from Auto or Windows
Update, except that less things can go wrong during the IT install of SP2,
and you can download it faster.
Secondly, are you 100% sure that SP2 includes SP1 as well as all other
previous windows updates?

I'm not 100% sure that the sun will rise this morning, but I'd bet it will.

But SP2 is supposed to contain all updates since WinXP was first released.
Is it the same with Microsoft Office? Does SP3 include all previous
updates?

I think there were a couple of patches after SP3 was released.
About the “slipstreaming†windows xp with SP2: Do you mean to say that
it is
possible for me to merge my windows XP CD with SP2 and thus create an
image
file containing both by using the software offered at
“http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=188337�
Yes.

Should I then burn
the image on CD and use it to format my pc or could that be risky?

There is a risk that anything will go south, but yes you can burn the
slipstreamed image to CD and use it to format your drive. Can I guaranteed
that it will go perfectly? NO! Sh*t Happens! Such is life.
Is it
safer to first install windows normally and only then to update it with
SP2?

Is it safer to look to the right or to the left? Whatever floats your boat,
but it will be faster to just use an WinXp CD with SP2 Slipstreamed.
Despite the fact that you think that windows updates are stored within
clearly labeled folders on my hard drive, I still can’t seem to find
them.
Could you perhaps name their default location?

Just download the the latest Service Packs, they contain all the latest
updates.

And I know where they are stored but that is just leading you down the wrong
path. If you are really that curious to know, use Google, and find out for
yourself.
Another upsetting fact is that loads of so-called “XP Hotfixes†are
listed
in my “add or remove programsâ€.

Upsetting? LOL! Why? Actually nevermind, some people just get upset over
the dumbest things.
I suspect them to be my downloaded updates.
ROFL!

However, as it is possible to uninstall them, doesn’t that mean that
their
components must be stored somewhere, hopefully even as exe setup files,
which
I could, were I to finally find them, easily store on my external USB hard
drive or onto a CD as you suggested?

Why bother since they are contained in the Service Pack as one exe file
instead of multiple ones?
Even more confusing is the fact that
many Hotfixes have (SP2) written next to them, whereas it still says
“Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 1†in my
System
Properties.

No, it's not confusing at all. You just are making it difficult for
yourself. Those were the patches released after SP1, that is now a part of
SP2.

EVERYTHING, ALL OF THE HOTFIXES ALREADY ON YOUR COMPUTER FOR WINDOWS XP ARE
PART OF SP2, plus more that ain't.
Please help me out one more time,
Adam Schneider


If you think you can help me with some of the last questions please don't
hesitate to reply!!
Thank you very very much in advance,
Adam

Window XP SP2

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&DisplayLang=en

Office XP SP3

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...fd-6f69-4289-8bd1-eb966bcdfb5e&displaylang=en

All Office Updates

http://office.microsoft.com/officeu...ID=CD010225741033&CTT=4&Origin=CD010224911033

Just download the ones released after SP3 except the multilingual stuff.
Read and figure it out for yourself. That's the only way to really learn.

Give a person a fish, and they eat for the day. Teach a person to fish on
their own, and they eat for the rest of their life.

http://www.google.com

Seek and ye shall find!

Ask a whole sh*tload of stupid questions, and get you get treated like a
dunce.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 

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