Windows XP Home activation - emachine

[kurttrail]

eMachines only supplies restore disks, he can't make a slipstreamed
CD.

LOL! The actual media of the install makes no difference. The License
is the PK, not the restore media, so "borrowing" a copy of an XP install
CD to make your own Slipstreamed SP2 CD, isn't a violation of MS's
licensing theory.

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[Michael Stevens]

LOL! The actual media of the install makes no difference. The License
is the PK, not the restore media, so "borrowing" a copy of an XP install
CD to make your own Slipstreamed SP2 CD, isn't a violation of MS's
licensing theory.

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Wasn't even a considertion, just passing along information about what
eMachine supplies. You didn't qualify the OP would have to obtain other
install media to create a slipstream media and it can't be done with the
eMachine restore media.
Plus, your post probably fell on deaf ears as the OP said he closed the
thread and I took it to mean he was finished and would not read or reply to
additional posts. I also took it to mean he considered his thread was closed
as far as he was concerned. You can continue it forever, but the OP
closed his part of it. I think it was a nice courtesy to let others know his
interest was satisfied and was moving on.

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP Shell

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

....and what TOPIC was he talking about?

Tom

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[GregRo]

eMachines only supplies restore disks, he can't make a slipstreamed CD.

That is true Michael

However, I tried making a slip stream using the i386 folder. It
still didn't install properly and end up looking like windows me.

The xp sp2 slimstream will only work the system it was made for.


Greg Ro

 

[GregRo]

Tom
He talking about two topics

Windows XP Home activation - emachine
emachines does carry a replacement board

He does not understand how newsgroups work.

Does not mater if he closes the topic or not.

The thread will still keep going as long as someone post.



Greg Ro

 

[kurttrail]

...and what TOPIC was he talking about?

One that will either cost the OP time, money or both.

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[kurttrail]

Wasn't even a considertion, just passing along information about what
eMachine supplies. You didn't qualify the OP would have to obtain
other install media to create a slipstream media and it can't be done
with the eMachine restore media.
Plus, your post probably fell on deaf ears as the OP said he closed
the thread and I took it to mean he was finished and would not read
or reply to additional posts. I also took it to mean he considered
his thread was closed as far as he was concerned. You can
continue it forever, but the OP closed his part of it. I think it was
a nice courtesy to let others know his interest was satisfied and was
moving on.

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP Shell

Of course I posted BEFORE the OP "CLOSED" the thread. But he seemed set
to spend money.

Personally, I didn't think he was gonna follow my sugestion anyway.
People that buy eMachines are idiots, and instead of blaming eMachines,
like some people have in this thread, I blame the idiot that thought
buying a eMachines was a good move to begin with.

But the ultimate blame goes to MS, as it is their copy-protection that
is FORCING the OP to buy another copy of Windows.

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[kurttrail]

That is true Michael

However, I tried making a slip stream using the i386 folder. It
still didn't install properly and end up looking like windows me.

The xp sp2 slimstream will only work the system it was made for.


Greg Ro

That is wrong Greg. My slipstreamed SP CD will work on any machine that
has a OEM PK.

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[Plato]

typical rich person response

Quality is the best way for people of all incomes to go, especially for
people with limited income. You end up spending the _least_ amount of
money on a product in the long run. It doesn't matter if its pc or lawn
chairs.

For example, an el-cheapo lawn chair is $5-$10 that will last 1-2 years.
A good one will last 20-30 years and will cost $20-$30. When you do the
math you will clearly see that buying quality is the _cheapest_ way to
go. So, if you have limited funds, go the for the least expensive way to
have your lawn chairs, which is, buying quality chairs.

Of course, there are exceptions to this. eg. Suppose I need a car to get
to work for my $10/hour job and I have very little, if any, money saved
up. Well, if the job is close enough I can buy a bike or try to carpool
or use mass transit. If those options are not available I _have_ to
purchase a $250 to $500 car. Darn thing will need tires, brakes, and
exhaust within a year but I can deal with that and pay for it when the
time comes. I'll buy used tires, fix my exhaust with old coffee cans and
muffler patch, and replace the brake pad myself when needed.

ps. I wish I was rich, as I'd be able to get a 17" monitor or even a 15"
flat panel to replace the 15" CRT Relisys I'm currently using. At least,
even with a 15" flat panel I'd have more screen area to argue with you

 

[Plato]

And who the f*#k do you think you are to close a thread?

Sheesh Mr. Trail. That would have went over a lot better with a at
the end.

Go visit Mrs. Manners for christs sake

 

[Leythos]

For example, an el-cheapo lawn chair is $5-$10 that will last 1-2 years.
A good one will last 20-30 years and will cost $20-$30. When you do the
math you will clearly see that buying quality is the _cheapest_ way to
go. So, if you have limited funds, go the for the least expensive way to
have your lawn chairs, which is, buying quality chairs.

There is a gaping flaw in your idea above: While I agree with not buying
cheap just to save a buck, there are many people that just can't afford
anything that others could.

As an example, directly related to this thread:

A friend of the family needs a first computer, she's not got any money,
not got any need except dial-up, web browsing for fun and then email
from family/friends. She asked about the Dell 2400 and I told her it was
a piece of Junk, same thing about the Walmart Compaq computer.....

She bought the Walmart computer for $350 and then $26 for something.
While I consider it a complete waste of money, it does meet her
requirements and has a warranty. Sure, we could have found some parts
and got her a machine, but she wanted something that came with a
warranty... yea, WM is crap, as is the 2400 and Compaq, but what can I
say...

So, now she has a computer, it was the cheapest computer available, and
it fully meets her needs today (not saying it will later).

If she had to spend $600 to get a better machine she would NOT have
purchased any computer.

So, it the person can only afford the cheap $5 chair, it will get them
by until they need a new one in a year/two years, and then it's another
$5, so, they spent $10 over 4 years for use of a chair, and in the next
year they buy the new model cheap one for another $5... The person that
bought the more expensive chair is stuck with the old design for 20
years and it cost them more.

As much as I would never purchase one of those sub-$600 computers for
anyone I know, there are people that just can't afford anything else.

If they had to order Windows XP Retail with their computer it would cost
another $50 to $100 and that might mean they could not afford it.

 

[kurttrail]

Sheesh Mr. Trail. That would have went over a lot better with a at
the end.

Go visit Mrs. Manners for christs sake

F*#k 'em, if they can't take reality.

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[Ed]

So, now she has a computer, it was the cheapest computer available, and
it fully meets her needs today (not saying it will later).

You do realize that the she, her buying habit and her reasoning in her
buying choices fit the majority mold associated with today's computer
buyer. There are many reasons for this but suffice it to say, what we
believe to be the $299 piece of junk is the majorities idea of the
deal of the century. I wouldn't be afraid to guess that the majority
households in America with a computer in them have a <$500 + Monitor
piece of junk in the house which gets replaced every two years because
its proprietary infrastructure doesn't allow it to be upgraded. The
American Sales and Marketing Firms that have their names painted on
the fronts of these Taiwanese pieces of junk thrive on this also.

Regards,
Ed

 

[Leythos]

You do realize that the she, her buying habit and her reasoning in her
buying choices fit the majority mold associated with today's computer
buyer. There are many reasons for this but suffice it to say, what we
believe to be the $299 piece of junk is the majorities idea of the
deal of the century. I wouldn't be afraid to guess that the majority
households in America with a computer in them have a <$500 + Monitor
piece of junk in the house which gets replaced every two years because
its proprietary infrastructure doesn't allow it to be upgraded. The
American Sales and Marketing Firms that have their names painted on
the fronts of these Taiwanese pieces of junk thrive on this also.

Yes, I tried to talk her out of it, but, if you have two choices, one to
get a computer of some type, the other is to not have any computer,
then, some people will spend the money to get the minimum necessary to
get online.

I'm of the type that does without until I can get the quality that I
think I need and almost never purchase the cheapest solution, normally
somewhere in the middle - as I believe in the long term benefits.

 

[Ed]

ps. I wish I was rich, as I'd be able to get a 17" monitor or even a 15"
flat panel to replace the 15" CRT Relisys I'm currently using.

Office Depot has been running some good deals on flat LCD's. I don't
know about the quality but last month they ran a deal of $150 (after
rebates) for a 17" flat LCD. I think what is going on is that with
the price of 19" and larger flat LCD's dropping, the cost of the
remaining stocks of 17" models are really dropping so they can just
get rid of the inventory. I'll bet you won't see 'New' 17" screens
being produced in the near future.

Remember how much a 15" flat LCD was when that type of screen first
started coming out compared to today's price.

Regards,
Ed

 

[Plato]

F*#k 'em, if they can't take reality.

Been over ten years, and still, only had one client/customer who knew
what USEnet was. I'd dare say this type of forum is not reality...

 

[Plato]

There is a gaping flaw in your idea above: While I agree with not buying
cheap just to save a buck, there are many people that just can't afford
anything that others could.

So who says there is some mandate that if others could afford it, I
_have_ to be able to afford it? I cant afford to buy a house on the
boardwalk with a view of the Atlantic Ocean even tho others could.

A friend of the family needs a first computer, she's not got any money,
not got any need except dial-up, web browsing for fun and then email
from family/friends. She asked about the Dell 2400 and I told her it was
a piece of Junk, same thing about the Walmart Compaq computer.....

Keep in mind that your "friend of the family" does not need a pc to live
a healthy life or to talk with family and friends. It's only an _add-On_
appliance for fun, convenience, and as you say, and for email, which of
course one can easily do without and have a nice life and existance. A
PC is not some sort of mandatory appliance one needs to live day to day.

 

[Leythos]

So who says there is some mandate that if others could afford it, I
_have_ to be able to afford it? I cant afford to buy a house on the
boardwalk with a view of the Atlantic Ocean even tho others could.

That's not part of what I was talking about. There is a difference
between crap based on perception. What one person considers "Cheap"
another my feel is expensive.

Keep in mind that your "friend of the family" does not need a pc to live
a healthy life or to talk with family and friends. It's only an _add-On_
appliance for fun, convenience, and as you say, and for email, which of
course one can easily do without and have a nice life and existance. A
PC is not some sort of mandatory appliance one needs to live day to day.

We agree, but many people consider communication as a valuable thing,
even a healthy thing. Some people "need" to communicate with others in
order to maintain a healthy mind set. While a PC is not "needed", but it
does offer many things that TV doesn't and many people that can't afford
a PC will also have a TV and cable for it too

 

[Alias]

Been over ten years, and still, only had one client/customer who knew
what USEnet was. I'd dare say this type of forum is not reality...

How many of them knew the difference between an OEM, Retail or Dell type
OEM? I am sure MS wants to keep it that way, too, as does Dell et al.

Alias

 

[GregRo]

Leythos,

What do your think of those linux machine priced from 200 to $600
or the minimac 499 and up

Greg Ro