Windows Mail to MS Outlook

[DM]

I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months before
getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate all my mail
from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load these news groups
to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook from 2000 to 2003 in
regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and never
will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using Outlook's
Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by several years, it
is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the Import Menu. Follow
the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import Internet Mail and
Addresses" and tell us what happens.

 

[DM]

Couldn't access the apps folder under my user name as your instructions
would have the brouser looking for the folder.

Also, I failed to mention in my original post that I even tried drag and
drop. Didn't work even though both applications uses the same file extension
(.eml) for mail.

However, I was able to do the following to transfer....

rightclick start -- explorer -- go into Appdata -- Local -- Microsoft --
Windows Mail -- Local Folders -- Inbox

I then saw all my subfolders. I then went to each folder one by one
selecting all and dragging them from there to my open MS Outlook and
dropping them in the respective folders. I had to have the folders set up
prior to this or I would have had to just drop them into the inbox.

Actually, I wish outlook used the same file storeage as windows mail instead
of the pst. the only reason I want to use outlook is to have a one stop shop
for my mail and calendar.

i thought that you could add news groups to MS Outlook way back as far as
Win98. I thought they only dropped that feature between 00 & 03 Outlooks.
Which mail brouser allowed you to configure MSNBC and Fox? or am I thinking
of something else?

There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using Outlook's
Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by several years,
it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the Import Menu.
Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import Internet Mail and
Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook from
2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[DM]

Forgot to mention the downside:

It changes the subject name to the gibberish file name it has in the parent
folder.

Furthermore for future help for windows mail, I had to create a new profile
on my PC and copied all my emails from the old profile
rightclick start -- explorer -- go into Appdata -- Local -- Microsoft --
Windows Mail -- Local Folders -- Inbox to the new profile and the subjects
were the original subjects when read in the brouser.

Couldn't access the apps folder under my user name as your instructions
would have the brouser looking for the folder.

Also, I failed to mention in my original post that I even tried drag and
drop. Didn't work even though both applications uses the same file
extension (.eml) for mail.

However, I was able to do the following to transfer....

rightclick start -- explorer -- go into Appdata -- Local -- Microsoft --
Windows Mail -- Local Folders -- Inbox

I then saw all my subfolders. I then went to each folder one by one
selecting all and dragging them from there to my open MS Outlook and
dropping them in the respective folders. I had to have the folders set up
prior to this or I would have had to just drop them into the inbox.

Actually, I wish outlook used the same file storeage as windows mail
instead of the pst. the only reason I want to use outlook is to have a one
stop shop for my mail and calendar.

i thought that you could add news groups to MS Outlook way back as far as
Win98. I thought they only dropped that feature between 00 & 03 Outlooks.
Which mail brouser allowed you to configure MSNBC and Fox? or am I
thinking of something else?

There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the
Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import
Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook from
2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Care to create a post that clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Forgot to mention the downside:

It changes the subject name to the gibberish file name it has in the
parent folder.

Furthermore for future help for windows mail, I had to create a new
profile on my PC and copied all my emails from the old profile
rightclick start -- explorer -- go into Appdata -- Local -- Microsoft --
Windows Mail -- Local Folders -- Inbox to the new profile and the subjects
were the original subjects when read in the brouser.

Couldn't access the apps folder under my user name as your instructions
would have the brouser looking for the folder.

Also, I failed to mention in my original post that I even tried drag and
drop. Didn't work even though both applications uses the same file
extension (.eml) for mail.

However, I was able to do the following to transfer....

rightclick start -- explorer -- go into Appdata -- Local -- Microsoft --
Windows Mail -- Local Folders -- Inbox

I then saw all my subfolders. I then went to each folder one by one
selecting all and dragging them from there to my open MS Outlook and
dropping them in the respective folders. I had to have the folders set up
prior to this or I would have had to just drop them into the inbox.

Actually, I wish outlook used the same file storeage as windows mail
instead of the pst. the only reason I want to use outlook is to have a
one stop shop for my mail and calendar.

i thought that you could add news groups to MS Outlook way back as far as
Win98. I thought they only dropped that feature between 00 & 03 Outlooks.
Which mail brouser allowed you to configure MSNBC and Fox? or am I
thinking of something else?

There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the
Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import
Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook
from 2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[DM]

This is in response to your last message: "Care to create a post that
clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?"

Ok,
Everyone agrees Outlook 03 is before Windows Mail so WM will not appear in
the import menu. Therefore, in outlook 03, I clicked on "import and export"
and it's wizard opened. I then selected "Import Internet Mail and Addresses"
and clicked next. I then selected "Microsoft Internet Mail 3.x" and saw
"import mail" and "import address book" boxes were checked and I then hit
next. Import addresses window popped up with radio button "outlook contacts
folder" selected with options "allow duplicates to be created." I hit
finish. The browse for folder pops up. I click on C:, then users, then my
user, and that is all the further I can go because the AppData folder is
hidden. (Status--Failed)

Now,
Knowing I could drag email from outlook browser to a windows folder to save,
I thought of the reverse.
I began by exploring the start button. I scrolled up the folders list on the
left until I saw my user. I clicked to open AppData (actually the same place
where the start button is to explore but in roaming instead of local). I
opened local, then microsoft, then windows mail, then local folders where
the browser folders are. If you don't know windows mail, it is not like a
..pst but windows explorer driven (my layman's terms of explanation**see note
below). Ok, i opened the inbox folder where I saw all my sub folders. I had
preloaded sub folders named the same in outlook 03. I went into each
subfolder, selected all the email files and dragged them to outlook 03
browser and dropped them into their respective folder. (status--partial
success; they copied as files which kept the numeric file name "windows mail
browser interprits the numeric file name back to the original subject" it
had in the explorer folder, changed the date sent to the current date
transferred and changed the sender to me as if I sent them.)

Note: If it weren't for outlook being a one stop shop for task, mail,
calendar, etc., I would keep windows mail because I like the file storage
principles windows mail has and often dreamed of outlook allowing similar
capabilities instead of the .pst database format. You could create a
shortcut from the appdata windows mail folders to a respective documents
folder under the user for files management. It is, in my perspective and
opinion, an quicker system for lazy guys like me. But, I adapt and overcome
and use what I have. Take windows mail and outlook and squish them together
to make a closer to perfect mail browser.

Anyway, I hope this clearly depicts what I have tried and what happens. If
not, I can create a visual for you and send it in the form of powerpoint.

There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using Outlook's
Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by several years,
it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the Import Menu.
Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import Internet Mail and
Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook from
2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Read the instructions I posted. Where did I say anything about Microsoft
Internet mail 3.x? I told you to follow the path for Outlook Express and see
what happens. Windows Mail is the successor to Outlook Express.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

This is in response to your last message: "Care to create a post that
clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?"

Ok,
Everyone agrees Outlook 03 is before Windows Mail so WM will not appear in
the import menu. Therefore, in outlook 03, I clicked on "import and
export" and it's wizard opened. I then selected "Import Internet Mail and
Addresses" and clicked next. I then selected "Microsoft Internet Mail 3.x"
and saw "import mail" and "import address book" boxes were checked and I
then hit next. Import addresses window popped up with radio button
"outlook contacts folder" selected with options "allow duplicates to be
created." I hit finish. The browse for folder pops up. I click on C:, then
users, then my user, and that is all the further I can go because the
AppData folder is hidden. (Status--Failed)

Now,
Knowing I could drag email from outlook browser to a windows folder to
save, I thought of the reverse.
I began by exploring the start button. I scrolled up the folders list on
the left until I saw my user. I clicked to open AppData (actually the same
place where the start button is to explore but in roaming instead of
local). I opened local, then microsoft, then windows mail, then local
folders where the browser folders are. If you don't know windows mail, it
is not like a .pst but windows explorer driven (my layman's terms of
explanation**see note below). Ok, i opened the inbox folder where I saw
all my sub folders. I had preloaded sub folders named the same in outlook
03. I went into each subfolder, selected all the email files and dragged
them to outlook 03 browser and dropped them into their respective folder.
(status--partial success; they copied as files which kept the numeric file
name "windows mail browser interprits the numeric file name back to the
original subject" it had in the explorer folder, changed the date sent to
the current date transferred and changed the sender to me as if I sent
them.)

Note: If it weren't for outlook being a one stop shop for task, mail,
calendar, etc., I would keep windows mail because I like the file storage
principles windows mail has and often dreamed of outlook allowing similar
capabilities instead of the .pst database format. You could create a
shortcut from the appdata windows mail folders to a respective documents
folder under the user for files management. It is, in my perspective and
opinion, an quicker system for lazy guys like me. But, I adapt and
overcome and use what I have. Take windows mail and outlook and squish
them together to make a closer to perfect mail browser.

Anyway, I hope this clearly depicts what I have tried and what happens. If
not, I can create a visual for you and send it in the form of powerpoint.

There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the
Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import
Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook from
2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[DM]

I used both and both received the same point of dead end: "....and that is
all the further I can go because the AppData folder is hidden."

Sorry I didn't say this before but was hoping you would give me some credit
by believing I would have. I tried every avenue.

There's got to be a way for showing the AppData folder in that browse for
window.

Read the instructions I posted. Where did I say anything about Microsoft
Internet mail 3.x? I told you to follow the path for Outlook Express and
see what happens. Windows Mail is the successor to Outlook Express.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

This is in response to your last message: "Care to create a post that
clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?"

Ok,
Everyone agrees Outlook 03 is before Windows Mail so WM will not appear
in the import menu. Therefore, in outlook 03, I clicked on "import and
export" and it's wizard opened. I then selected "Import Internet Mail and
Addresses" and clicked next. I then selected "Microsoft Internet Mail
3.x" and saw "import mail" and "import address book" boxes were checked
and I then hit next. Import addresses window popped up with radio button
"outlook contacts folder" selected with options "allow duplicates to be
created." I hit finish. The browse for folder pops up. I click on C:,
then users, then my user, and that is all the further I can go because
the AppData folder is hidden. (Status--Failed)

Now,
Knowing I could drag email from outlook browser to a windows folder to
save, I thought of the reverse.
I began by exploring the start button. I scrolled up the folders list on
the left until I saw my user. I clicked to open AppData (actually the
same place where the start button is to explore but in roaming instead of
local). I opened local, then microsoft, then windows mail, then local
folders where the browser folders are. If you don't know windows mail, it
is not like a .pst but windows explorer driven (my layman's terms of
explanation**see note below). Ok, i opened the inbox folder where I saw
all my sub folders. I had preloaded sub folders named the same in outlook
03. I went into each subfolder, selected all the email files and dragged
them to outlook 03 browser and dropped them into their respective folder.
(status--partial success; they copied as files which kept the numeric
file name "windows mail browser interprits the numeric file name back to
the original subject" it had in the explorer folder, changed the date
sent to the current date transferred and changed the sender to me as if I
sent them.)

Note: If it weren't for outlook being a one stop shop for task, mail,
calendar, etc., I would keep windows mail because I like the file storage
principles windows mail has and often dreamed of outlook allowing similar
capabilities instead of the .pst database format. You could create a
shortcut from the appdata windows mail folders to a respective documents
folder under the user for files management. It is, in my perspective and
opinion, an quicker system for lazy guys like me. But, I adapt and
overcome and use what I have. Take windows mail and outlook and squish
them together to make a closer to perfect mail browser.

Anyway, I hope this clearly depicts what I have tried and what happens.
If not, I can create a visual for you and send it in the form of
powerpoint.

There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the
Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import
Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook
from 2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

If you cannot access your Windows Mail Data in Windows Explorer, then you
have an issue with security settings in Vista, not Outlook. I can import
form Windows Mail just fine using the Import Wizard in Outlook and the path
through Outlook Express.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I used both and both received the same point of dead end: "....and that is
all the further I can go because the AppData folder is hidden."

Sorry I didn't say this before but was hoping you would give me some
credit by believing I would have. I tried every avenue.

There's got to be a way for showing the AppData folder in that browse for
window.

Read the instructions I posted. Where did I say anything about Microsoft
Internet mail 3.x? I told you to follow the path for Outlook Express and
see what happens. Windows Mail is the successor to Outlook Express.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

This is in response to your last message: "Care to create a post that
clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?"

Ok,
Everyone agrees Outlook 03 is before Windows Mail so WM will not appear
in the import menu. Therefore, in outlook 03, I clicked on "import and
export" and it's wizard opened. I then selected "Import Internet Mail
and Addresses" and clicked next. I then selected "Microsoft Internet
Mail 3.x" and saw "import mail" and "import address book" boxes were
checked and I then hit next. Import addresses window popped up with
radio button "outlook contacts folder" selected with options "allow
duplicates to be created." I hit finish. The browse for folder pops up.
I click on C:, then users, then my user, and that is all the further I
can go because the AppData folder is hidden. (Status--Failed)

Now,
Knowing I could drag email from outlook browser to a windows folder to
save, I thought of the reverse.
I began by exploring the start button. I scrolled up the folders list on
the left until I saw my user. I clicked to open AppData (actually the
same place where the start button is to explore but in roaming instead
of local). I opened local, then microsoft, then windows mail, then local
folders where the browser folders are. If you don't know windows mail,
it is not like a .pst but windows explorer driven (my layman's terms of
explanation**see note below). Ok, i opened the inbox folder where I saw
all my sub folders. I had preloaded sub folders named the same in
outlook 03. I went into each subfolder, selected all the email files and
dragged them to outlook 03 browser and dropped them into their
respective folder. (status--partial success; they copied as files which
kept the numeric file name "windows mail browser interprits the numeric
file name back to the original subject" it had in the explorer folder,
changed the date sent to the current date transferred and changed the
sender to me as if I sent them.)

Note: If it weren't for outlook being a one stop shop for task, mail,
calendar, etc., I would keep windows mail because I like the file
storage principles windows mail has and often dreamed of outlook
allowing similar capabilities instead of the .pst database format. You
could create a shortcut from the appdata windows mail folders to a
respective documents folder under the user for files management. It is,
in my perspective and opinion, an quicker system for lazy guys like me.
But, I adapt and overcome and use what I have. Take windows mail and
outlook and squish them together to make a closer to perfect mail
browser.

Anyway, I hope this clearly depicts what I have tried and what happens.
If not, I can create a visual for you and send it in the form of
powerpoint.


There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the
Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import
Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook
from 2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Actually, you seem to be able to access the Windows Mail data correctly in
Windows Explorer. If so, then I suspect that Outlook 2003 may not have the
hooks necessary to import form WM. Outlook 2007 does, but again, I would
have no expectation that Outlook 2003 could support it. Migrating from
Windows Mail to an older version of Outlook is not a likely scenario.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I used both and both received the same point of dead end: "....and that is
all the further I can go because the AppData folder is hidden."

Sorry I didn't say this before but was hoping you would give me some
credit by believing I would have. I tried every avenue.

There's got to be a way for showing the AppData folder in that browse for
window.

Read the instructions I posted. Where did I say anything about Microsoft
Internet mail 3.x? I told you to follow the path for Outlook Express and
see what happens. Windows Mail is the successor to Outlook Express.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

This is in response to your last message: "Care to create a post that
clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?"

Ok,
Everyone agrees Outlook 03 is before Windows Mail so WM will not appear
in the import menu. Therefore, in outlook 03, I clicked on "import and
export" and it's wizard opened. I then selected "Import Internet Mail
and Addresses" and clicked next. I then selected "Microsoft Internet
Mail 3.x" and saw "import mail" and "import address book" boxes were
checked and I then hit next. Import addresses window popped up with
radio button "outlook contacts folder" selected with options "allow
duplicates to be created." I hit finish. The browse for folder pops up.
I click on C:, then users, then my user, and that is all the further I
can go because the AppData folder is hidden. (Status--Failed)

Now,
Knowing I could drag email from outlook browser to a windows folder to
save, I thought of the reverse.
I began by exploring the start button. I scrolled up the folders list on
the left until I saw my user. I clicked to open AppData (actually the
same place where the start button is to explore but in roaming instead
of local). I opened local, then microsoft, then windows mail, then local
folders where the browser folders are. If you don't know windows mail,
it is not like a .pst but windows explorer driven (my layman's terms of
explanation**see note below). Ok, i opened the inbox folder where I saw
all my sub folders. I had preloaded sub folders named the same in
outlook 03. I went into each subfolder, selected all the email files and
dragged them to outlook 03 browser and dropped them into their
respective folder. (status--partial success; they copied as files which
kept the numeric file name "windows mail browser interprits the numeric
file name back to the original subject" it had in the explorer folder,
changed the date sent to the current date transferred and changed the
sender to me as if I sent them.)

Note: If it weren't for outlook being a one stop shop for task, mail,
calendar, etc., I would keep windows mail because I like the file
storage principles windows mail has and often dreamed of outlook
allowing similar capabilities instead of the .pst database format. You
could create a shortcut from the appdata windows mail folders to a
respective documents folder under the user for files management. It is,
in my perspective and opinion, an quicker system for lazy guys like me.
But, I adapt and overcome and use what I have. Take windows mail and
outlook and squish them together to make a closer to perfect mail
browser.

Anyway, I hope this clearly depicts what I have tried and what happens.
If not, I can create a visual for you and send it in the form of
powerpoint.


There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in the
Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express: "Import
Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to migrate
all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way to load
these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with outlook
from 2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[DM]

That's what I would think but with vista and office 07 being a new world and
people reverting back to the stone age, I thought it was worth a try to see
if Microsoft allowed for it through windows mail. or some tips to ease the
pain of what I actually had to do.

Thanks!

Actually, you seem to be able to access the Windows Mail data correctly in
Windows Explorer. If so, then I suspect that Outlook 2003 may not have the
hooks necessary to import form WM. Outlook 2007 does, but again, I would
have no expectation that Outlook 2003 could support it. Migrating from
Windows Mail to an older version of Outlook is not a likely scenario.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I used both and both received the same point of dead end: "....and that is
all the further I can go because the AppData folder is hidden."

Sorry I didn't say this before but was hoping you would give me some
credit by believing I would have. I tried every avenue.

There's got to be a way for showing the AppData folder in that browse for
window.

Read the instructions I posted. Where did I say anything about Microsoft
Internet mail 3.x? I told you to follow the path for Outlook Express and
see what happens. Windows Mail is the successor to Outlook Express.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
This is in response to your last message: "Care to create a post that
clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?"

Ok,
Everyone agrees Outlook 03 is before Windows Mail so WM will not appear
in the import menu. Therefore, in outlook 03, I clicked on "import and
export" and it's wizard opened. I then selected "Import Internet Mail
and Addresses" and clicked next. I then selected "Microsoft Internet
Mail 3.x" and saw "import mail" and "import address book" boxes were
checked and I then hit next. Import addresses window popped up with
radio button "outlook contacts folder" selected with options "allow
duplicates to be created." I hit finish. The browse for folder pops up.
I click on C:, then users, then my user, and that is all the further I
can go because the AppData folder is hidden. (Status--Failed)

Now,
Knowing I could drag email from outlook browser to a windows folder to
save, I thought of the reverse.
I began by exploring the start button. I scrolled up the folders list
on the left until I saw my user. I clicked to open AppData (actually
the same place where the start button is to explore but in roaming
instead of local). I opened local, then microsoft, then windows mail,
then local folders where the browser folders are. If you don't know
windows mail, it is not like a .pst but windows explorer driven (my
layman's terms of explanation**see note below). Ok, i opened the inbox
folder where I saw all my sub folders. I had preloaded sub folders
named the same in outlook 03. I went into each subfolder, selected all
the email files and dragged them to outlook 03 browser and dropped them
into their respective folder. (status--partial success; they copied as
files which kept the numeric file name "windows mail browser interprits
the numeric file name back to the original subject" it had in the
explorer folder, changed the date sent to the current date transferred
and changed the sender to me as if I sent them.)

Note: If it weren't for outlook being a one stop shop for task, mail,
calendar, etc., I would keep windows mail because I like the file
storage principles windows mail has and often dreamed of outlook
allowing similar capabilities instead of the .pst database format. You
could create a shortcut from the appdata windows mail folders to a
respective documents folder under the user for files management. It is,
in my perspective and opinion, an quicker system for lazy guys like me.
But, I adapt and overcome and use what I have. Take windows mail and
outlook and squish them together to make a closer to perfect mail
browser.

Anyway, I hope this clearly depicts what I have tried and what happens.
If not, I can create a visual for you and send it in the form of
powerpoint.


There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in
the Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express:
"Import Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to
migrate all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way
to load these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with
outlook from 2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

I was hoping the routine used for Outlook Express would also work for
Windows Mail since WM was the successor product and the path in Outlook 2007
for WM is the same as for OE, but apparently too much furniture was moved in
WM for Outlook 2003 to be able to find it. Hopefully, there aren't many
people who would be using a new version of Windows Mail and then try to
migrate to an old version of Outlook.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

That's what I would think but with vista and office 07 being a new world
and people reverting back to the stone age, I thought it was worth a try
to see if Microsoft allowed for it through windows mail. or some tips to
ease the pain of what I actually had to do.

Thanks!

Actually, you seem to be able to access the Windows Mail data correctly
in Windows Explorer. If so, then I suspect that Outlook 2003 may not have
the hooks necessary to import form WM. Outlook 2007 does, but again, I
would have no expectation that Outlook 2003 could support it. Migrating
from Windows Mail to an older version of Outlook is not a likely
scenario.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

I used both and both received the same point of dead end: "....and that
is all the further I can go because the AppData folder is hidden."

Sorry I didn't say this before but was hoping you would give me some
credit by believing I would have. I tried every avenue.

There's got to be a way for showing the AppData folder in that browse
for window.



Read the instructions I posted. Where did I say anything about
Microsoft Internet mail 3.x? I told you to follow the path for Outlook
Express and see what happens. Windows Mail is the successor to Outlook
Express.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
This is in response to your last message: "Care to create a post that
clearly depicts what you tried and what happens
that the rest of us could interpret?"

Ok,
Everyone agrees Outlook 03 is before Windows Mail so WM will not
appear in the import menu. Therefore, in outlook 03, I clicked on
"import and export" and it's wizard opened. I then selected "Import
Internet Mail and Addresses" and clicked next. I then selected
"Microsoft Internet Mail 3.x" and saw "import mail" and "import
address book" boxes were checked and I then hit next. Import addresses
window popped up with radio button "outlook contacts folder" selected
with options "allow duplicates to be created." I hit finish. The
browse for folder pops up. I click on C:, then users, then my user,
and that is all the further I can go because the AppData folder is
hidden. (Status--Failed)

Now,
Knowing I could drag email from outlook browser to a windows folder to
save, I thought of the reverse.
I began by exploring the start button. I scrolled up the folders list
on the left until I saw my user. I clicked to open AppData (actually
the same place where the start button is to explore but in roaming
instead of local). I opened local, then microsoft, then windows mail,
then local folders where the browser folders are. If you don't know
windows mail, it is not like a .pst but windows explorer driven (my
layman's terms of explanation**see note below). Ok, i opened the inbox
folder where I saw all my sub folders. I had preloaded sub folders
named the same in outlook 03. I went into each subfolder, selected all
the email files and dragged them to outlook 03 browser and dropped
them into their respective folder. (status--partial success; they
copied as files which kept the numeric file name "windows mail browser
interprits the numeric file name back to the original subject" it had
in the explorer folder, changed the date sent to the current date
transferred and changed the sender to me as if I sent them.)

Note: If it weren't for outlook being a one stop shop for task, mail,
calendar, etc., I would keep windows mail because I like the file
storage principles windows mail has and often dreamed of outlook
allowing similar capabilities instead of the .pst database format. You
could create a shortcut from the appdata windows mail folders to a
respective documents folder under the user for files management. It
is, in my perspective and opinion, an quicker system for lazy guys
like me. But, I adapt and overcome and use what I have. Take windows
mail and outlook and squish them together to make a closer to perfect
mail browser.

Anyway, I hope this clearly depicts what I have tried and what
happens. If not, I can create a visual for you and send it in the form
of powerpoint.


There has been no change in regards to newsgroups. Outlook is not and
never will be a news reader.
You can probably import your messages from Windows Mail by using
Outlook's Import Wizard. Since Outlook 2003 preceded Windows Mail by
several years, it is axiomatic that Windows Mail will not appear in
the Import Menu. Follow the steps you would for Outlook Express:
"Import Internet Mail and Addresses" and tell us what happens.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I have vista home basic and have used windows mail for several months
before getting MS Office 2003 and loading it. Is there a way to
migrate all my mail from windows mail to outlook? Is there also a way
to load these news groups to outlook? I know there was a change with
outlook from 2000 to 2003 in regards to news groups.

Any help would be appreciated.