Windows Logon

[Guest]

Hi,
I'm using a Fujitsu/Siemens Amilo D laptop with XP home, SP2, IE6. My logon
is password protected and everything was fine until just recently. I now have
to press the 'Num' key before typing my password or an error message asks if
I've 'forgotten my password.'
I think I can trace the problem back to cleaning the dust off the keyboard
as windows was booting up. I've probably unknowingly altered something by
doing this but don't know how to change it back. I've tried restoring back
but no joy. Any ideas?
TIA
J.J.

 

[Sharon F]

Hi,
I'm using a Fujitsu/Siemens Amilo D laptop with XP home, SP2, IE6. My logon
is password protected and everything was fine until just recently. I now have
to press the 'Num' key before typing my password or an error message asks if
I've 'forgotten my password.'
I think I can trace the problem back to cleaning the dust off the keyboard
as windows was booting up. I've probably unknowingly altered something by
doing this but don't know how to change it back. I've tried restoring back
but no joy. Any ideas?
TIA
J.J.

Typically the number lock key is disabled at the Welcome screen. If enabled
in BIOS and if enabled when you log off of Windows, it will be available
for use within the Windows session.

You can manage to enable numlock for the logon screen as well but it takes
some extra steps to do so. MVP Kelly Theriot has the necessary information
under the topic "numlock" on the following page of her site:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_n.htm

 

[Guest]

Hi Sharon,
I tried your suggestion via 'K-K' but no joy, I even tried changing the
password in user accounts but no joy. Any other ideas would be appreciated.

 

[Sharon F]

Hi Sharon,
I tried your suggestion via 'K-K' but no joy, I even tried changing the
password in user accounts but no joy. Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Other ideas: Use the number keys at the top of the keyboard. Use a
username/password combo with no numbers. Manually press Numlock and then
type username/password.

 

[Guest]

Sharon,

Other ideas: Use the number keys at the top of the keyboard. Use a
username/password combo with no numbers.

I don't have any numbers in my password.

Manually press Numlock and then
type username/password.

That's what I have to do now to 'Logon' but I never used to have to. I know
it's not a big deal but it's annoying not knowing what changed or how to put
it right.
TIA
J.J.

 

[Sharon F]

Sharon,


I don't have any numbers in my password.


That's what I have to do now to 'Logon' but I never used to have to. I know
it's not a big deal but it's annoying not knowing what changed or how to put
it right.
TIA
J.J.

Don't know what else to suggest. I have not tweaked my system to allow
numlock to be available at logon but I do have the system setup to turn it
on during a Windows session. When I start the computer, the numlock light
is on until Windows starts loading the logon screen. It remains off until I
log on to Windows and is available until I turn the system off.

I touch type and occasionally fat finger numlock into the off state (End
and Numlock are next to each other on my keyboard). If I happen to notice
it before shutting down, I turn it back on so that the "on" state is saved
for the next session. If I leave it off, it's an extra step at the next
session to turn it back on again and you're right - it's a wee bit
annoying. The on/off state is saved by XP at each shutdown so have gotten
into the habit of checking for the numlock light before shutting down.

 

[Guest]

Sorted,
After reading your last post, I hit on an idea. You said that you checked to
see if 'NumLock' was on/off before you closed windows. So I went through your
posts in reverse, ie, changed the string value back to off(0), then made sure
the keyboard indicator was on before I rebooted and bingo no error when I
logged on with my usual password. is this the right solution or have I got it
in reverse, ie, the string value should be on(2) and the keyboard indicator
off when I close down? Does it matter?
Thanks for your time and input Sharon,
Regards
J.J.

 

[Sharon F]

Sorted,
After reading your last post, I hit on an idea. You said that you checked to
see if 'NumLock' was on/off before you closed windows. So I went through your
posts in reverse, ie, changed the string value back to off(0), then made sure
the keyboard indicator was on before I rebooted and bingo no error when I
logged on with my usual password. is this the right solution or have I got it
in reverse, ie, the string value should be on(2) and the keyboard indicator
off when I close down? Does it matter?
Thanks for your time and input Sharon,

If it works, it doesn't matter. I'm glad to hear that you were able to sort
this out with a little intuitive thinking added to the information
references.

 

[Guest]

Hi, J.J. & Sharon,

I happened to have exactly the same problem. But after trying all the
procedures you mentioned, I still CANNOT overcome the problem. Would you be
more specific in your procedures (step by step will help)? And what do you
mean by "keyboard indicator"?

By the way, if I sign on as "Guest" on the same notebook computer, I don't
have this probelm. It only happens when I use my own username.

Thanks in advance,
Jack

 

[Sharon F]

And what do you
mean by "keyboard indicator"?

Keyboard indicators are the LED lights on a keyboard for NumLock, CapLock,
F-Lock and ScrollLock. XP is case-sensitive where passwords are concerned
and by default the numlock state is off at Logon.

Numbers typed from the number pad have a different code than numbers typed
from the upper row. Many times that not so apparent difference can cause
trouble when entering passwords, product keys, etc. Same goes for Caplocks
- an uppercase CapLock character when compared to the "same" character
typed using Shift+alpha key is different. Nowadays, most programs
accommodate the various possible values but once in a while you run into a
situation where there is no allowance for variations.

Laptops do not have a number pad but if NumLock is on, a portion of the
keyboard (letters on the right hand side) becomes a surrogate number pad.
If you were trying to logon to XP and weren't aware that NumLock was on,
you might think you were typing letters for your password when actually you
were typing numbers.

I no longer have this thread in my newsreader so other than "log on
problem," I don't remember what "exactly" the problem was in this thread.
Sorry.