Windows Live OneCare

[Ryka]

I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and would
appreciate your opinions.

 

[Mark]

You should get One Care's removal tool and remove that too.

Mark

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Windows OneCare includes its own advanced version
of Windows Defender. You do not need an additional
third-party anti-spyware program.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and would
appreciate your opinions.

 

[DL]

Live OneCare hasnt received very good reviews
Personally I use MS Defender, Adaware & Spybot for malaware & a seperate
Internet security app

 

[Nonny]

Windows OneCare includes its own advanced version
of Windows Defender. You do not need an additional
third-party anti-spyware program.

I sincerely doubt that. Do you have any cites to support your
statement?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I uninstalled (using the removal tool) Norton and installed OneCare on a
trial basis. Do I need any additional spyware with this? Spybot, for
example. OneCare sounds like it does it all but I want to be sure and
would appreciate your opinions.

Yes, you'll need additional spyware protection. (Not to mention adding
a decent anti-virus application.)


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
spyware or viruses. I highly recommend using it.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience -
Windows Vista Enthusiast

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AV-Comparatives does not rate One-Care very well at all. And simple
google serch for spyware app comparision will yeild results that "do
not" favor One Care one bit!

I am a MS fan boy, make no mistake about it.

But I read the reveiws and conduct my own test as well.

I do not recomend One-Care at all. And MS just sent me v2.0.

I use and recomend NOD32 for AV only, Comodo for firewall, Defender is
running(what the hell), Spybot, A-Squared free and the premium
SuperAntiSpyware.

I'm clean.

Good luck.

 

[Nonny]

I have three different computers running Windows OneCare.
In over 2 years, no system has been infected with malware,
spyware or viruses. I highly recommend using it.

I have two different computers - neither of them running Windows
OneCare.

In over FIVE years, no system has been infected with malware,
spyware or viruses. I highly recommend not using it.

 

[StephenB]

Hello Ryka,
Just one suggestion. PLEASE disable Live OneCare firewall. It will
shut down the Windows Firewall AND it does a terrible job replacing WIN
Firewall.

Absolutely bad advice. Do not turn off the OneCare firewall or your status will
go red. The OneCare firewall provides 2 way protection with a fairly simple
configuration interface.
-steve

 

[StephenB]

I have two different computers - neither of them running Windows
OneCare.

In over FIVE years, no system has been infected with malware,
spyware or viruses. I highly recommend not using it.

As enjoyable as that reverse statement reads regarding your 2 computers that
have not been infected without the use of OneCare, it can't be used to support
the argument that OneCare is not good protection.

OneCare is not perfect, no protection is. OneCare does a decent job of providing
protection. It is meant to be used alone and without additional 3rd party tools
for additional protection.
I recommend that you consider using a free online scanner on occasion of you
wish to validate the protection offered by OneCare.
Here are two possible choices:
http://www.eset.com/onlinescan/

http://www.ewido.net/en/onlinescan/

-steve

 

[Nonny]

OneCare is not perfect, no protection is. OneCare does a decent job of providing
protection. It is meant to be used alone and without additional 3rd party tools
for additional protection.

If it's not perfect - which I have no argument with - then why rely
on it alone? I think it's irresponsible of someone to tell folks that
One Care is all that they need.

I use AVG antivirus and malware protection, but I also depend on a
couple other malware scanners to periodically check my system.

 

[Alias]

If it's not perfect - which I have no argument with - then why rely
on it alone? I think it's irresponsible of someone to tell folks that
One Care is all that they need.

I use AVG antivirus and malware protection, but I also depend on a
couple other malware scanners to periodically check my system.

Our affectionate name for this program is NoCare.

Alias

 

[StephenB]

If it's not perfect - which I have no argument with - then why rely
on it alone? I think it's irresponsible of someone to tell folks that
One Care is all that they need.

I use AVG antivirus and malware protection, but I also depend on a
couple other malware scanners to periodically check my system.

Because it is irresponsible to make a blanket statement about using multiple
protection products which can cause conflicts, performance issues and
potentially cause a missed infection due to conflicts...

You are absolutely welcome to run other scanners on demand, hence my suggestion
about using an online scanner to validate that all is well if desired. However,
any scanner that installs as a service or provides "real time" protection will
potentially be an issue. OneCare (as several other suites out these days) is
designed to be a full protection suite with no need to run other products.
-steve

 

[Nonny]

OneCare (as several other suites out these days) is
designed to be a full protection suite with no need to run other products.

AVG 8 does that as well... and it's free.

 

[Alias]

AVG 8 does that as well... and it's free.

And it isn't the wolf guarding the hen house as NoCare is. To add insult
to injury, you gotta pay for it!

Alias

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Absolutely bad advice.

Now so? It's much better to have a firewall installed locally and have
full control of it then it would be to entrust one's computer and
personal data to an uncaring corporate entity that cannot possibly know
one's specific needs.

Do not turn off the OneCare firewall or your status will
go red.

Only for the few seconds it takes to enable a real firewall...

The OneCare firewall provides 2 way protection with a fairly simple
configuration interface.

The same can be said for Vista's built-in firewall, particularly if one
adds the also free Sphinx's Vista Firewall Control
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/. Why pay extra for a product that is less
than fully under one's own control?


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

 

[StephenB]

Bruce, if you wish to use a different firewall than the OneCare firewall - which
is a full two way firewall - use a different security solution as OneCare is not
a mix and match solution. That's why I said it was bad advice.
You apparently don't have experience with OneCare, hence the confusion.

Now so? It's much better to have a firewall installed locally and have
full control of it then it would be to entrust one's computer and
personal data to an uncaring corporate entity that cannot possibly know
one's specific needs.

I'm not sure I understand this. OneCare provides a local firewall as part of its
package. It is configurable. If one holds disdain for corporate entities, one
should not be using OneCare or Windows, I would think.

Only for the few seconds it takes to enable a real firewall...

No, OneCare will continue to warn that you are at risk as OneCare is not a mix
and match solution.

The same can be said for Vista's built-in firewall, particularly if one
adds the also free Sphinx's Vista Firewall Control
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/. Why pay extra for a product that is less
than fully under one's own control?

That's fine and thanks for that link - I plan to check it out. The point is that
OneCare can't be partly enabled. The design requires that all components be
working together. So, if you don't like the firewall, that means you also have
to replace the rest of the suite with other solutions.
-steve

 

[smbdymf]

And it isn't the wolf guarding the hen house as NoCare is. To add insult
to injury, you gotta pay for it!

Alias

Did your welfare checks run out?

 

[ThisIsBroughToYouByFourtyLettersInMyName]

It also depends on what u do on the computer...Where ur just on youtube or
looking at porn

 

[Frank Holman]

ThisIsBroughToYouByFourtyLettersInMyName

It also depends on what u do on the computer...Where ur just on youtube or
looking at porn

You like replying to topics that have been dead for almost a freaking
year??