Windows hogging up space

G

Guest

I have 100 gig hard drive. Partisioned 12 by 88 gigs. Windows is taking up
4.8 gigs on the C: partition. I have put all my programs on the other
partition, D:
I still need room.

Anyway to decrease the size of XP profesional? It is pretty big.
 
P

POP

Paul said:
I have 100 gig hard drive. Partisioned 12 by 88 gigs.
Windows is taking up
4.8 gigs on the C: partition. I have put all my programs
on the other partition, D:
I still need room.

Anyway to decrease the size of XP profesional? It is
pretty big.

Reinstall it to a "minimal" installation. Or figure out what
you're doing.

Pop
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Paul said:
I have 100 gig hard drive. Partisioned 12 by 88 gigs. Windows is
taking up
4.8 gigs on the C: partition. I have put all my programs on the
other partition, D:
I still need room.

Anyway to decrease the size of XP profesional? It is pretty big.

12GB C?
Ewh. I would have made it at least 20, if not 30GB.

You can do several things to make it take up less space on C, but you are
thinking of things all wrong in my opinion. Remember - whenever you install
applications - whether you put them on a separate drive or not - some
components are installed on C.. whether in the registry or in the form of
DLLs or other shared/common files. Also - if you did this so you could - if
needed - just reinstall the OS at will and be up and running again - bad
news - doesn't work that way with Windows XP. Your applications may be on
D, but you are still likely going to have to install mosty of them again to
make them recognized by the OS (have the right DLLs and registry entres
available to hook into the OS.)

Drives are cheap. Get another and start storing your data files there.
Then get an external drive and use something like SyncToy to start
replicating your documents and important files/favorites/email/etc to the
drive. Then you have a backup scheme.

As for cleaning up C.. Are you storing things in your "My Documents" folder
or your desktop? Have lots of Internet Explorer favorites? Ever clean out
your temporary internet files(TIF)? What size limit do you have on your TIF
files anyway? How about "My Music" or "My Pictures"? How much RAM do you
have? - it could be the pagefile taking up that space. Ever use
hibernation? Then you should turn it off.

Find out what might be using the space..

Do you have hidden and system files visible?
How's your system restore settings?
Used Disk Cleanup?
Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being used.

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can delete the
uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has installed..

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all but yuor
latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of the system's
memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the size of the hiberfil.sys
file will always equal the amount of physical memory in your system. If you
don't use the hibernate feature and want to recapture the space that Windows
uses for the hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start, Settings,
Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check box, then
click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting Never under the
"System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes tab doesn't delete the
hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the Power Schemes
tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and click on
the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I suggest 5% or
higher.
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
 
G

Guest

I did the Hibernate suggestion. I ran the clean disk utility. Internet
cache etc set to very low. Retore at 5%. Windows is still taking up over 4
gigs. My physical Memory is 1 gig, 3.5 gig processor, 64 video card. I do
save most all my file on a external USB 250 gig drive. Very little is saved
on the partitioned D: drive.

What about partitioning the drive with a 3rd party software?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Paul said:
I have 100 gig hard drive. Partisioned 12 by 88 gigs. Windows
is taking up 4.8 gigs on the C: partition. I have put all my programs on
the
other partition, D: I still need room.

Anyway to decrease the size of XP profesional? It is pretty big.

Shenan said:
12GB C?
Ewh. I would have made it at least 20, if not 30GB.

You can do several things to make it take up less space on C, but
you are thinking of things all wrong in my opinion. Remember -
whenever you install applications - whether you put them on a
separate drive or not - some components are installed on C..
whether in the registry or in the form of DLLs or other
shared/common files. Also - if you did this so you could - if
needed - just reinstall the OS at will and be up and running again
- bad news - doesn't work that way with Windows XP. Your
applications may be on D, but you are still likely going to have
to install mosty of them again to make them recognized by the OS
(have the right DLLs and registry entres available to hook into
the OS.)

Drives are cheap. Get another and start storing your data files
there. Then get an external drive and use something like SyncToy
to start replicating your documents and important
files/favorites/email/etc to the drive. Then you have a backup
scheme.

As for cleaning up C.. Are you storing things in your "My
Documents" folder or your desktop? Have lots of Internet Explorer
favorites? Ever clean out your temporary internet files(TIF)?
What size limit do you have on your TIF files anyway? How about
"My Music" or "My Pictures"? How much RAM do you have? - it could
be the pagefile taking up that space. Ever use hibernation? Then
you should turn it off.

Find out what might be using the space..

Do you have hidden and system files visible?
How's your system restore settings?
Used Disk Cleanup?
Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being
used.

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can
delete the uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has
installed..

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

You can use an application that scans your system for log files and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all
but yuor latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of
the system's memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the
size of the hiberfil.sys file will always equal the amount of
physical memory in your system. If you don't use the hibernate
feature and want to recapture the space that Windows uses for the
hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start,
Settings, Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check
box, then click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting
Never under the "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes
tab doesn't delete the hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the
Power Schemes tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and
click on the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I
suggest 5% or higher.
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
I did the Hibernate suggestion. I ran the clean disk utility.
Internet cache etc set to very low. Retore at 5%. Windows is
still taking up over 4 gigs. My physical Memory is 1 gig, 3.5 gig
processor, 64 video card. I do save most all my file on a external
USB 250 gig drive. Very little is saved on the partitioned D:
drive.

What about partitioning the drive with a 3rd party software?

You mean to change the size of the C partition?
Sure.. It is not without risks - but Partition Magic and maybe BootItNG
might work.

1GB RAM?
That means the pagefile that likely exists on your C drive is 1.5GB in size.
Leaving 3.3GB for Windows XP and all its common files.
My Windows folder (and all sub folders) is.. hah - coincidence? 3.30GB
(3,548,819,674 bytes).

So - your installation and the amount of space it is taking up seems fairly
consistent. May not be minimum - but anyone running Windows XP at minimum
is not actually using it. =)

Did you erase all the backups for the hotfix uninstalls?
Change the size of your Temporray Internet Files to something reasonable
(512MB)?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Paul said:
I have 100 gig hard > is taking up 4.8 gigs on the C: partition.
I have put all my programs on the
other partition, D: I still need room.

Anyway to decrease the size of XP profesional? It is pretty big.

Shenan said:
12GB C?
Ewh. I would have made it at least 20, if not 30GB.

You can do several things to make it take up less space on C, but
you are thinking of things all wrong in my opinion. Remember -
whenever you install applications - whether you put them on a
separate drive or not - some components are installed on C..
whether in the registry or in the form of DLLs or other
shared/common files. Also - if you did this so you could - if
needed - just reinstall the OS at will and be up and running again
- bad news - doesn't work that way with Windows XP. Your
applications may be on D, but you are still likely going to have
to install mosty of them again to make them recognized by the OS
(have the right DLLs and registry entres available to hook into
the OS.)

Drives are cheap. Get another and start storing your data files
there. Then get an external drive and use something like SyncToy
to start replicating your documents and important
files/favorites/email/etc to the drive. Then you have a backup
scheme.

As for cleaning up C.. Are you storing things in your "My
Documents" folder or your desktop? Have lots of Internet Explorer
favorites? Ever clean out your temporary internet files(TIF)?
What size limit do you have on your TIF files anyway? How about
"My Music" or "My Pictures"? How much RAM do you have? - it could
be the pagefile taking up that space. Ever use hibernation? Then
you should turn it off.

Find out what might be using the space..

Do you have hidden and system files visible?
How's your system restore settings?
Used Disk Cleanup?
Is hibernate turned on and do you use that feature?
Uninstalled unnecessary applications lately?

Other ways to free up space..

SequoiaView
http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/

DX Hog Hunt
http://www.dvxp.com/en/Downloads.aspx

JDiskReport
http://www.jgoodies.com/freeware/jdiskreport/index.html

Those can help you visually discover where all the space is being
used.

If you are comfortable with the stability of your system, you can
delete the uninstall files for the patches that Windows XP has
installed..

http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spack.htm

You can use an application that scans your system for log files
and
temporary files and use that to get rid of those:

Ccleaner (Free!)
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You can run Disk Cleanup - built into Windows XP - to erase all
but yuor latest restore point and cleanup even more "loose
files"..

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

You can turn off hibernation if it is on and you don't use it..

When you hibernate your computer, Windows saves the contents of
the system's memory to the hiberfil.sys file. As a result, the
size of the hiberfil.sys file will always equal the amount of
physical memory in your system. If you don't use the hibernate
feature and want to recapture the space that Windows uses for the
hiberfil.sys file, perform the following steps:

- Start the Control Panel Power Options applet (go to Start,
Settings, Control Panel, and click Power Options).
- Select the Hibernate tab, clear the "Enable hibernation" check
box, then click OK; although you might think otherwise, selecting
Never under the "System hibernates" option on the Power Schemes
tab doesn't delete the hiberfil.sys file.
- Windows will remove the "System hibernates" option from the
Power Schemes tab and delete the hiberfil.sys file.

You can control how much space your System Restore can use...

1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Highlight one of your drives (or C: if you only have one) and
click on the "Settings" button.
4. Change the percentage of disk space you wish to allow.. I
suggest 5% or higher.
5. Click OK.. Then Click OK again.
I did the Hibernate suggestion. I ran the clean disk utility.
Internet cache etc set to very low. Retore at 5%. Windows is
still taking up over 4 gigs. My physical Memory is 1 gig, 3.5
gig processor, 64 video card. I do save most all my file on a
external USB 250 gig drive. Very little is saved on the partitioned D:
drive.

What about partitioning the drive with a 3rd party software?

Shenan said:
You mean to change the size of the C partition?
Sure.. It is not without risks - but Partition Magic and maybe
BootItNG might work.

1GB RAM?
That means the pagefile that likely exists on your C drive is
1.5GB in size. Leaving 3.3GB for Windows XP and all its common
files.
My Windows folder (and all sub folders) is.. hah - coincidence?
3.30GB (3,548,819,674 bytes).

So - your installation and the amount of space it is taking up
seems fairly consistent. May not be minimum - but anyone running
Windows XP at minimum is not actually using it. =)

Did you erase all the backups for the hotfix uninstalls?
Change the size of your Temporray Internet Files to something
reasonable (512MB)?
What do you meen by " Did you erase all the backups for the hotfix
uninstalls?"

Copying from my response:
 
J

John

Paul said:
I have 100 gig hard drive. Partisioned 12 by 88 gigs. Windows is taking up
4.8 gigs on the C: partition. I have put all my programs on the other
partition, D:
I still need room.

Anyway to decrease the size of XP profesional? It is pretty big.

Yea XP is a disk hog. I gave it 16GB originally and had to upgrade it to
25 using Partition Magic. And thats with the swap file on a dedicated
partition ... LOL.

But there is *so much* stuff out there!

John
 

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