Unfortunately after all that work McAfee won and WDS has reverted back to
the original problem without even opening "Windows Search Options". I give
up at the moment but it should be resolved even if it is just for old XP.
Booster,
reboot.
PA Bear said:Uninstall Windows Desktop Search, reboot, run CCleaner and Registry
Booster,
reboot.
Injudicious use of these "Registry cleaners" may have caused/be causing all
your problems, Sneff. If you think your Registry needs to be "cleaned" or
"repaired," read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own
conclusions.
The (IE) History folder itself is a hidden folder & located C:\Documents and
Settings\[username]\Local Settings\History <=here.
To view the folder in Windows Explorer, you must first enable Show Hidden
Files and Folders; see this tutorial:
www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
You'll find expert assistance for Windows Search 4 in this forum:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdesktopsearchhelp/threads
Firstly to answer your questions;
I'm useing McAfee Total Protection and was a clean install after a
reformat
in Feb 09.
I use Norton Ghost (Primarily for Backups) but has always been stopped
(msconfig) during testing.
Nothing else of that nature is installed.
Fairly certain that Windows Desktop Search 4 was a clean install.
After lengthly testing yesterday I am now fairly certain that McAfee is
not
the culprit as the service was totally disabled and anomalies still
happened.
Testing scenario;
Uninstall Windows Desktop Search, reboot, run CCleaner and Registry
Booster,
reboot.
Disable all non-windows programmes and reboot. Task Mgr shows 25 processes
running.
Install WDS, reboot. Open WDS Options and note search criteria - Outlook,
My
Documents etc.
Click modify. Untick as appropriate and tick Music. Click Advanced,
rebuild
& close.
The process is humming, rebuilding from zero. Snooze. Index Now & Status
all
good.
I rebooted at least once (vague) and Options still showed only Music being
searched.
At some point after this it all fell apart. Options now included Outlook -
clear that. Then Options included My Documents - clear that.
Then Options showed My Documents and Outlook and a yet to be found
"Internet
Explorer History" so I can't clear that.
And lastly I switched on a external USB hard drive and sure enough WDS
decided to include that Drive in the search locations !!
I have checked Event Viewer and it looks fine.
I know WDS indexing is not complete the first time I reboot so there can't
be a problem there.
I don't know about you but I'm the "If all else fails - reformat" type of
person but that is cheating.
One observation that may be of interest - WDS will not run in safe mode,
at
least on my PC.
Where is "Internet Explorer History" located? As a point of interest it is
a
shame that when a folder is ticked in a drive, that the drive does not
show
a shaded tick as in most other programmes.
OK, no more "Registry Cleaners" for me!
Your other references have solved my problem.
Thank you for your patience.
PA Bear said:Uninstall Windows Desktop Search, reboot, run CCleaner and Registry
Booster,
reboot.
Injudicious use of these "Registry cleaners" may have caused/be causing
all
your problems, Sneff. If you think your Registry needs to be "cleaned"
or
"repaired," read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own
conclusions.
The (IE) History folder itself is a hidden folder & located C:\Documents
and Settings\[username]\Local Settings\History <=here.
To view the folder in Windows Explorer, you must first enable Show Hidden
Files and Folders; see this tutorial:
www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/tutorial62.html
You'll find expert assistance for Windows Search 4 in this forum:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdesktopsearchhelp/threads
Firstly to answer your questions;
I'm useing McAfee Total Protection and was a clean install after a
reformat
in Feb 09.
I use Norton Ghost (Primarily for Backups) but has always been stopped
(msconfig) during testing.
Nothing else of that nature is installed.
Fairly certain that Windows Desktop Search 4 was a clean install.
After lengthly testing yesterday I am now fairly certain that McAfee is
not
the culprit as the service was totally disabled and anomalies still
happened.
Testing scenario;
Uninstall Windows Desktop Search, reboot, run CCleaner and Registry
Booster,
reboot.
Disable all non-windows programmes and reboot. Task Mgr shows 25
processes
running.
Install WDS, reboot. Open WDS Options and note search criteria -
Outlook,
My
Documents etc.
Click modify. Untick as appropriate and tick Music. Click Advanced,
rebuild
& close.
The process is humming, rebuilding from zero. Snooze. Index Now & Status
all
good.
I rebooted at least once (vague) and Options still showed only Music
being
searched.
At some point after this it all fell apart. Options now included
Outlook -
clear that. Then Options included My Documents - clear that.
Then Options showed My Documents and Outlook and a yet to be found
"Internet
Explorer History" so I can't clear that.
And lastly I switched on a external USB hard drive and sure enough WDS
decided to include that Drive in the search locations !!
I have checked Event Viewer and it looks fine.
I know WDS indexing is not complete the first time I reboot so there
can't
be a problem there.
I don't know about you but I'm the "If all else fails - reformat" type
of
person but that is cheating.
One observation that may be of interest - WDS will not run in safe mode,
at
least on my PC.
Where is "Internet Explorer History" located? As a point of interest it
is
a
shame that when a folder is ticked in a drive, that the drive does not
show
a shaded tick as in most other programmes.
:
Since the troublemaker seems to be the McAfee application, have you
contacted McAfee Support about this?
What's the name of this McAfee application (e.g., McAfee Security
Center-freebie from your ISP; McAfee VirusScan Plus/Internet
Security/Total
Protection)?
Has another McAfee application or a Norton application ever been
installed
on the computer (including a free-trial that came preinstall on the
machine
when you bought it)?
Did you upgrade from Windows Desktop Search 3 to Windows Search 4?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
Sneff wrote:
<paste>
Unfortunately after all that work McAfee won and WDS has reverted back
to
the original problem without even opening "Windows Search Options". I
give
up at the moment but it should be resolved even if it is just for old
XP.
</paste> I must apologise for my previous sloppy response. I had in
fact
done all that you suggested but to no avail.
Useing System Config Utility I cancelled all Startup & Services except
for
Microsoft programmes. I also disabled McAfee in the task bar.
I changed WDS to music only, rebooted and it was fine.
I ran System Config again to allow all startup & services to run.
I rebooted and it was fine. Reinstated McAfee again and the problem
reappeared.
Your second post prompted to try further. After numerous variations of
the
above with no luck I decided to reinstall WDS with all the services as
above
cancelled (may be not necessary). Set up WDS for music only,
reinstated
all
services inc. McAfee and there were no glitches no matter how many
reboots
or reindex requests.
As a final test I added 'My Documents" to WDS without disableing
McAfee
and
I was back to the original problem which included (not mentioned
previously)
very slow response in closing "indexing options" and "Internet
Explorer
History" search which I could never locate to delete.
I believe that McAfee, if running during a search request change,
corrupts
the WDS programme but thats for a better person to prove.
Thank you for your assistance and patience.
:
Why accept the behavior when you can (1) disable the protection(s),
(2)
tweak Windows Search, (3) reboot, and then (4) re-enable the
protections?
That's like saying, "I guess I have to keep driving on this flat
tire"
when
all you have to do is pull over & change the tire.
Sneff wrote:
Yes I have a few of the programmes that you mentioned. I guess I'll
have
to accept having to "rebuild" after each reboot.
Thank you for your response.
:
One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of
third-party
applications may be disallowing the change(s) (upon reboot). These
include
anti-spyware applications (e.g., Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea
Timer,
SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, WinPatrol,
etc),
anti-virus appliations & security suites (Norton, McAfee,
ESET/NOD32,
Kasperky, Trend Micro, etc.), and third-party firewalls (e.g., Zone
Alarm,
etc.).
Note that temporarily disabling the application(s) or rebooting
into
Safe
Mode may not disable the system protections.
I set WDS 4.0 on XP SP3 to search only "my music"
The above works perfectly until PC is rebooted and then Outlook
and
My
Documents appear in "Included Locations"
How can I stop the above?
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