Windows Defender will not connect to the Internet

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Guest

I installed Windows Defender today. It now sits on my desktop and will not
download any new definitions. It says that it last had a definition update 25
days ago. I press the check for updates button and nothing happens. I don't
even get a pop-up from my software firewall asking for permission to access
the Internet.

I am not behind a proxy.

Does anyone have any hints?

It would seem that downloading updates would be alpha level functionality
and I'm pretty sure that AntiSpyware Beta 1 had downloaded new definitions in
the last month.

Thanks,

Tim
 
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Guest

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Tim Friesen said:
I installed Windows Defender today. It now sits on my desktop and will not
download any new definitions. It says that it last had a definition update 25
days ago. I press the check for updates button and nothing happens. I don't
even get a pop-up from my software firewall asking for permission to access
the Internet.

I am not behind a proxy.

Does anyone have any hints?

It would seem that downloading updates would be alpha level functionality
and I'm pretty sure that AntiSpyware Beta 1 had downloaded new definitions in
the last month.

Thanks,

Tim


Yes, and I have exactly the same problem. If it won't update, it's no good.
 
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Guest

good side is that i am not alone then..
bad art is that this program is not helpfull then.

ME
 
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Guest

I have the same problem, too. As far as I can see in the Network monitor the
client tries to connect the internal WSUS Server.
 
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Guest

I have looked at Windows Update/Microsoft Update and I don't see any entries
for anything related to Spyware/Windows Defender. It seems that there is no
way for me to download updates.
 
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Guest

The answer is... and this REALLY PISSES ME OFF... You MUST HAVE THE AUTOMATIC
UPDATE SERVICE enabled and running. Some arrogant Microsoft programmer team
decided that they are going to force you into using it. Beta 1 didn't have
it and it worked just fine. When will Microsoft learn? I have updates
turned off because this is MY computer and *I* will decide what connects and
for what purpose and when... not Microsoft...
 
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plun

Hi

Are within a corporate proxy ? , ISP proxy or a private proxy ?

If within a corporate network, ask your IT dept.
Have they published/approved WD definition client updates ?

If ISP or private proxy:
Can you see any updates within Windowsupdate ?

http://update.microsoft.com

regards
plun
 
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Guest

I was having the same problem of no updates.....
(The articles talks about Microsofts plan but nothing
about the Defender updates, or may be I missed it).
So, I just removed the Defender, and re-loaded the
AntiSpyware last version. AntiSpyware is still
updating properly.
I noticed something - with either Defender or
AntiSpyware running, internet access slows down
quite a bit, with multiple web pages opened on IE7
Beta 2. It is disturbing somewhat, although I am
running a comparatively fast PC and on a faster
DSL line, active at 2.8-3.2MBps range.
 
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Guest

I stated above that I was not behind a proxy. I have no problem connecting to
and downloading updates from Microsoft Update.
 
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privatenews.microsoft.com

There's more to it than just this: I've got the same problem, but my
computer's got Automatic Updates turned on (by a domain policy setting) and
still Defender won't update. It's also stalled when scanning and crashed
with a 0x800705b4 exception. It's coming off my computer right now.

Now I've got to try and find a copy of Anti-Spyware, which works. Thanks,
Microsoft.

Jay
 
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plun

Hi

This thread was "messed up" with different update
problems.

Within a corporate environment with servers it´s an
internal process for IT dept to upgrade PCs, the admins
approves all patches and updates before any client can use them.
This article then talks about a corporate WSUS enviromnet.

Big companys IT dept has quality routines about how to process all
patches and updates beacuse of needed uptime for all clients.
They do not approve any patch or update from MS before they
can validate that this patch works, they maybe start with a small
amount of corporate PCs for a test until all clients are approved for
an update.

For a private user or small business user without a WSUS server
Windowsupdate is the place to update.
WD uses Windowsupdate for these users.

regards
plun
 
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privatenews.microsoft.com

OK - this appears to have fixed the problem for me: I went to the Security
Centre and forced a manual Custom update. This found updates to Defender
(Definition Update 1.13.1272.4 for BETA Windows Defender (KB892519) and
Definition Update 1.13.1276.3 for BETA Windows Defender (KB892519)), which I
downloaded and applied, and now it looks happy, although it remains to be
seem whether it can update automatically or not.

Hope this helps somebody.
 
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Guest

privatenews.microsoft.com said:
OK - this appears to have fixed the problem for me: I went to the Security
Centre and forced a manual Custom update. This found updates to Defender
(Definition Update 1.13.1272.4 for BETA Windows Defender (KB892519) and
Definition Update 1.13.1276.3 for BETA Windows Defender (KB892519)), which I
downloaded and applied, and now it looks happy, although it remains to be
seem whether it can update automatically or not.

Hope this helps somebody.
 
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Bill Sanderson

That's correct. On January 16th, a new class of updates was made available
to WSUS administrators to enable. Windows Defender will pick up from WSUS
(and ONLY WSUS, I believe) on a network with WSUS installed.

Speak to your WSUS administrator and ask that the new class enabling these
updates be allowed.

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Bill Sanderson

Mike - the solutions are different for different people. As Really Irked
mentioned--bits is necessary for AutoUpdate to work. Not sure whether it is
required for Windows Update--if not, WU would be an alternative for him.

On a network with a WSUS server, if the sigs are not published via WSUS, and
if WU and AU are blocked, then the administrators have decided not to allow
the updates--and Microsoft is not going to do an end-run around them. The
administrators need to allow the signature updates on WSUS.
 
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plun

Mike - the solutions are different for different people. As Really Irked
mentioned--bits is necessary for AutoUpdate to work. Not sure whether it is
required for Windows Update--if not, WU would be an alternative for him.

On a network with a WSUS server, if the sigs are not published via WSUS, and
if WU and AU are blocked, then the administrators have decided not to allow
the updates--and Microsoft is not going to do an end-run around them. The
administrators need to allow the signature updates on WSUS.

Hi Bill

And a "smart admin" with "smart timing" uses lunch or just before
evening brake to publish all updates/patches for minimal disturbance.

About WDs definitions it´s maybe a special case but mostly all
larger companys I know do not permit any user to run Betas.

Mostly all larger corporate networks in Sweden are also deployd
with restrictions that a user cannot install anything. C: is blocked
with policys and of course gpedit ;) All user files witin file
servers.

regards
plun
 

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