Windows 2K or Windows XP?

[Erik Funkenbusch]

Try that in a large Office! What about imaging system? Say some poor admin
has to do this shit on 100 systems? How much fun would that be?

Corporate clients have versions that do not require activation, the so call
"volume licensing" versions.

 

[jabailo]

Corporate clients have versions that do not require activation, the so call
"volume licensing" versions.

Do we care?

I remember discussing Microsoft's 'great plans' with Nathan Myrvold back
in 1991. It was all going to be this fantastic scheme of selling software
by subscription, backed up by an elaborate verification and licensing
scheme.

Guess what Genius? You forgot to read Thomas Kuhn's 'The Structure of
Scientific Revolutions'. These epicycling licensing schemes of wheels
within wheels have just been destroyed by a new paradigm -- G P L -- that
is, there is no license.

No wonder, Il Papa, Bill Gates, is sending Cardinal Richeleau McBride to
burn the witches and impale the blasphemers! Martin Luther just posted
his 95 thesis on the church door -- but you lazy ass Redmond ho's were
just too damn ignorant to read it.

 

[Freeride]

Corporate clients have versions that do not require activation, the so call
"volume licensing" versions.

Volume licensing for a 20 to 100 desktop company?

 

[PaulC]

First, get what ever large object that may be, out of your ass.
Second, I don't see you offering any good advice.
And Third, there's no reason to rip on someone who's just trying to help.

 

[jabailo]

First, get what ever large object that may be, out of your ass.

thanks. it was your egregiously large ego. here is its back, mr.top
poster.

Second, I don't see you offering any good advice.

advice is simple: use Linux. Or can't you read.

And Third, there's no reason to rip on someone who's just trying to
help.

There's helping, and there's apologizing. Being an apoligist for
Saddam Hussein would invite derision, dontcha think?

 

[Erik Funkenbusch]

Volume licensing for a 20 to 100 desktop company?

Yes, actually. You only need 5 desktops to participate in volume
licensing.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/programs/

 

[GreyCloud]

Either one is a good choice. XP is the most stable, and would be my choice.
As the the privacy issues, don't believe everything you read.

Guffaw!!

http://encryption_policies.tripod.com/industry/campbell_270400_microsoft.htm

This may be a bit old, but why did M$ not comment?? Gee, is
it because Big Brother likes to watch?

 

[GreyCloud]

Read:

http://www.licenturion.com/xp/fully-licensed-wpa.txt

It uses a one-way hash to detect if certain hardware changes, with no way
for MS to know exactly what hardware that is.


Gee, you click a button. Big deal. First, if the hardware hash never
changes, you don't have to wory (ie, you can reinstall all day long and
never run out of activations.) Second, it allows you to change several
items of hardware before having to reactivate. Third, if you do have to
reactivate, the count gets reset every 6 months, and you they allow several
activations before having to call in. Fourth, even if you manage to exceed
all these things, you need only call the MS call center and tell them why
you are legally re-activating so often, and they'll reset you.


That review is so out there, it's hard to believe. As i said, XP won't
make you call MS unless the hardware changes.

Does more than that Ewik. Way much more. Are you that
clueless to be that blind?
How about a clue-by-four??

I've done this. In fact,
I've installed it on the same PC dozens of times because I needed a clean
PC to test software installs on. I've not seen this kind of review from
any credible source. If this were even remotely true, you'd see these
kinds of reviews all over the place, and from credible sources as well.

The how come an AP report called M$ on the carpet about
phoning home?
And howcome M$ admitted that it does phone home, but that it
was only marketing information?
And howcome when asked that M$ didn't know what they were
going to do with the marketing information?

Our one and only M$ sock-puppet.

Second, I have had to call MS twice about reactivations and they've always
activated me without argument of any kind. I've never been told i'd have
to repurchase anything.

I could believe that on one call, he might get a confused or beligerant
help desk operator, but twice? I don't buy it.

There was a bug in Office XP that has been fixed in a service pack that
could cause a reactivation on laptops used with docking stations, but other
than that, ive not heard any real complaints.

So, the hash part, and you actually believed everything M$
told you eh?

Guffaw!

 

[GreyCloud]

First, get what ever large object that may be, out of your ass.
Second, I don't see you offering any good advice.
And Third, there's no reason to rip on someone who's just trying to help.

And lookee at the headers... gee, COLA. You're in the wrong
group.
As a public service to all XP users... beware of M$, they
aren't what they seem to be.
And Ewik Fudd offers no help at all, but just parrots M$
usual junk.

 

[GreyCloud]

Yes, actually. You only need 5 desktops to participate in volume
licensing.

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/programs/

And just for the sake of fairness, Linux requires none.

 

[GreyCloud]

No one said anything about trusting Microsoft, but why should anyone trust
what is posted on the net? At least half of what is posted is pure fiction.

Then maybe you haven't let it soak in yet that M$ is a
monopoly. And monopolies don't need an incentive to write
good software... just charge a high price for it.

 

[GreyCloud]

GNU ( and linux) make you stupid!

Winbloze makes you a moron.

 

[PaulC]

If you don't like M$, then don't use their products.

 

[PaulC]

WTF? Cola?

help.

And lookee at the headers... gee, COLA. You're in the wrong
group.
As a public service to all XP users... beware of M$, they
aren't what they seem to be.
And Ewik Fudd offers no help at all, but just parrots M$
usual junk.

 

[GreyCloud]

If you don't like M$, then don't use their products.

I don't. And I also post to cola, but I think your response
is due in part to some other cross-poster.

 

[GreyCloud]

WTF? Cola?

comp.os.linux.advocacy... that's what I subscribe to. It
was the original poster that caused the cross-post.

 

[Alex M]

Then maybe you haven't let it soak in yet that M$ is a
monopoly.

Does this mean you have no other choice of operating systems or applications
software in the marketplace?

And monopolies don't need an incentive to write
good software... just charge a high price for it.

And as customers currently have a choice, they can pay the asking price or
take their custom elsewhere.


AM

 

[paul s]

GNU ( and linux) make you stupid!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

Stupid boy.

 

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Lin=F8nut?=]

While restarting Outlook, Ted grumbled:

GNU ( and linux) make you stupid!

Ahhhh, thus speaks the Pure White Light of Stupidity!

 

[SunSpot]

Idiot.

WOW! Is that the best you can do?
I knew Linuxfuxs where slow, but I did not think they where THAT slow!