win98SE which 'newer' board works for you?

[The General]

You will not have USB 2.0 but only 1.1 working.

The USB controller comes with the chipset so there is ver 2 if the board
has it. The drivers for 2 are on the ASUS site.

 

[Bite Me]

Microsoft, and hence many hardware vendors, are beginning to drop support
for Win 98. Thought you should know...

What do you base this on? As long as enough people continue using W98, the
vendors will support it. They stopped supporting W95 but a lot of hardware
comes out with drivers for it. Including USB 2.0

The *only* reason M$ stopped supporting it earlier than they said they
would (they blamed it on Sun) is because the release of Longhorn has been
pushed back and not as many people are switching to XP as they thought
would.

I've been planning on getting the P4C800E-DX and been following all the
posts. And running W98SE (NOT W98). There should be no problems.

 

[Bite Me]

I understand that means I can't call up but they aren't just going to
wipe away windows update and the old KB are they?

No. I was talking to one of the IT guys at work (they refuse to install XP
on the systems there - they have 300+ networked computers) and he said that
M$ has screwed up too much in the past (with all their security holes) to
take a chance on pissing off any more of their customers. If a patch is
need for W98SE, they'll put it out. What is already out, will be out for a
couple fo years yet.

And if you're worried about that, dump IE and Outlook and switch to Mozilla
1.5. That'll take care of 75% of the Critical updates.

Email me and I'll send you a file of changes you should make to W98 to plug
a bunch of the other holes.

 

[Bite Me]

They will continue to offer updates if deemed critical. I also read

somewhere that they may be offering the entire Win98 update catalog either
on CD or for downloading to create your own CD.

Great. I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

I think support for Win98 will remain in the form of online help groups and
forums (e.g. - newsgroups), and perhaps those good websites like
http://aumha.org/sitemap.htm

Heck, there's still C64 and Amiga support sites out there. (Do a Google
search for 'commodore amiga support')

Even better, search for 'commodore vic support'

There is still quite a bit of support for DOS (Thank God!).

Doing this now in a DOS session in Windows (Q-edit and Yarn). Damn. I wish
someone had come out with a Windows version of Q-Edit (LFN support mainly).
It'd be far better than that POS Notepad which comes with Windows.

 

[Wizard Prang]

Because the new motor (hardware) is cheap and the old car (98) is free
if he already owns it.

XP Pro may end up costing him more than CPU, Motherboard and Memory
put together.

Prang

 

[lucky]

No. I was talking to one of the IT guys at work (they refuse to install XP
on the systems there - they have 300+ networked computers) and he said that
M$ has screwed up too much in the past (with all their security holes) to
take a chance on pissing off any more of their customers. If a patch is
need for W98SE, they'll put it out. What is already out, will be out for a
couple fo years yet.

And if you're worried about that, dump IE and Outlook and switch to Mozilla
1.5. That'll take care of 75% of the Critical updates.

Email me and I'll send you a file of changes you should make to W98 to plug
a bunch of the other holes.

Ok email me the changes, I'm curious.

Also I use netscape primarily but there are some pages, notably directv,
that will not work with netscape. I hate IE because it won't load
partial pages. To me that's a big deal with a slow dialup.

 

[lucky]

Because the new motor (hardware) is cheap and the old car (98) is free
if he already owns it.

XP Pro may end up costing him more than CPU, Motherboard and Memory
put together.

Prang

Yup, that's the reason. I love everything I have it it works ok. No need
to pay MS for more stuff. Plus I never buy the newest things,
especially O/S. Maybe in 3 years I can update to XP if it runs stable LOL

 

[Kyle Brant]

Search for "editpad" on google, you'll find a wonderful replacement
text editor for win9x/me/2k/xp.

--
Best regards,
Kyle
| >They will continue to offer updates if deemed critical. I also
read
| >somewhere that they may be offering the entire Win98 update catalog
either
| >on CD or for downloading to create your own CD.
|
| Great. I'll have to keep an eye out for that.
|
| >I think support for Win98 will remain in the form of online help
groups and
| >forums (e.g. - newsgroups), and perhaps those good websites like
| >http://aumha.org/sitemap.htm
|
| Heck, there's still C64 and Amiga support sites out there. (Do a
Google
| search for 'commodore amiga support')
|
| Even better, search for 'commodore vic support'
|
| >There is still quite a bit of support for DOS (Thank God!).
|
| Doing this now in a DOS session in Windows (Q-edit and Yarn). Damn.
I wish
| someone had come out with a Windows version of Q-Edit (LFN support
mainly).
| It'd be far better than that POS Notepad which comes with Windows.
|
| --
| bpoulton at vcn dot bc dot ca (Bob Poulton) Remove 'yourhat' to
reply
| An Email as well as a response to the Newsgroup would be appreciated
as
| sometimes this ISP is kinda flakey.
| ALL Spam will be forwarded to Spamcop.

 

[Kyle Brant]

Um, USB 2.0 works on my win98se a7n8x-dlx machine with the patch.

--
Best regards,
Kyle
| One thing all the others did not mention:
| Be aware, that Win98 has a problem with large amounts of ram.
| If you have more than 768 MB (or was it at 512 already?) you need to
| limit Win98 in menory use by using some System.ini entry in the
vcache
| section. Otherwise it will not work.
| I made Win98 work with a 2.8 GHz P4 1Gig RAM. You also have to set
the
| onboard IDE controller to compatible mode, because Win98 will not
work
| with three IDE contollers.
| You will not have USB 2.0 but only 1.1 working.
|
| All in all: why do you want to go with a new motor in such an old
car?
| You relly should consider upgrading to Windows XP (PRO)
| Armin
|
|

 

[Robert Longdon]

One thing all the others did not mention:
Be aware, that Win98 has a problem with large amounts of ram.
If you have more than 768 MB (or was it at 512 already?) you need to
limit Win98 in menory use by using some System.ini entry in the vcache
section. Otherwise it will not work.
I made Win98 work with a 2.8 GHz P4 1Gig RAM. You also have to set the
onboard IDE controller to compatible mode, because Win98 will not work
with three IDE contollers.
You will not have USB 2.0 but only 1.1 working.

All in all: why do you want to go with a new motor in such an old car?
You relly should consider upgrading to Windows XP (PRO)
Armin

Does anyone remember what the entry is in the System Ini VCACHE section when
you want to use more then 512 MB of ram? I had it at one time but have
forgotten it. Thanks in advance.

 

[AJ]

Does anyone remember what the entry is in the System Ini VCACHE section when
you want to use more then 512 MB of ram? I had it at one time but have
forgotten it. Thanks in advance.

MinFileCache=51200
MaxFileCache=102400

 

[Shep©]

Does anyone remember what the entry is in the System Ini VCACHE section when
you want to use more then 512 MB of ram? I had it at one time but have
forgotten it. Thanks in advance.

The free,"chacheman" will set a more useful Vcache setting per your
usage,
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[Robert Longdon]

MinFileCache=51200
MaxFileCache=102400

Thanks allot. I appreciate it.
Bob

 

[mrdancer]

Does anyone remember what the entry is in the System Ini VCACHE section when
you want to use more then 512 MB of ram? I had it at one time but have
forgotten it. Thanks in advance.

Open the system.ini file with a text editor. Under the [VCACHE] heading,
add the following:

MaxFileCache=524288

For more info, see:
http://tinyurl.com/97yo
or
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...port/kb/articles/Q253/9/12.ASP&NoWebContent=1

 

[lucky]

A poster indicated I may have problems with win 98 and some of the newer
asus boards. I don't want to upgrade my O/S. Who is using what and any
problems? My goal is to get around a 2 gig chip with the ability to
expand ram and cpu just a bit when I get more $. I'm even considering
going with an athlon. I don't need the latest and greatest, just better
than the 433 I have now.

Good thing I have SE. I just got back to section 5.1 on the online
manual for the p4p800 I ordered and it says win 98SE not win 98 is
compatible. Boy would have I been in trouble if I just has regular.

 

[Bite Me]

Search for "editpad" on google, you'll find a wonderful replacement
text editor for win9x/me/2k/xp.

Ahh. Editpad Lite. ($40 US is FAR too much for a text editor). had a look.
It has the same problem as Notepad: No macro capability. I use that a
*lot*. Q-Edit does Macros so looks like I continue with it.

Thanks anyways.

 

[lucky]

Just had to complete the cycle and say I got the p4p800 Deluxe. Had a
hard time installing but with help of people on here, I reinstalled
win98, played with a noide.inf file and the compatible/enhanced settings
in bios, and now have a much faster machine. thx