Who is right?

[Guest]

A question has arisen... I said something and he said rubbish.. Who is
right? Read on...

Thanks for the reply Housetrained, but in XP you can only write to
DVD/CD -
or + RW using third-party software such as InCD or Roxio.

<snip>

Rubbish!

--
John the West Ham fan
(e-mail address removed)
<><

So, who is right?

 

[Chad Harris]

Hi Don--

XP has a native CD burner. Vista has a native CD/DVD burner.

CD Burning Becomes Routine in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/expert/bridgman_august13.mspx

Burn a CD or DVD in Vista
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/b47eb51a-ea6d-4d97-97b0-2d07a59316981033.mspx

CH

 

[Guest]

Thanks Chad. That's what I thought.

Cheers, Don.

 

[Kevin Young]

A question has arisen... I said something and he said rubbish.. Who is
right? Read on...


<snip>

Rubbish!

--
John the West Ham fan
(e-mail address removed)
<><

So, who is right?

Not sure what this has to do with Windows Vista and it is hard to tell who
posted what in the quoting above but you can write to a CD\DVD in XP without
the need for third party burning software.

 

[Adam Albright]

Hi Don--

XP has a native CD burner. Vista has a native CD/DVD burner.

CD Burning Becomes Routine in Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/expert/bridgman_august13.mspx

Burn a CD or DVD in Vista
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/b47eb51a-ea6d-4d97-97b0-2d07a59316981033.mspx

Typical MS marketing hype. From the linked page above:

"Note: You can use Windows to burn a data disc, which is useful for
storing, archiving, and sharing files among different computers. If
you want to make a disc that will play in a music or video player, you
should burn the disc using a music or video program."

You can NOT burn a traditional DVD, ie make a video DVD with all
versions of Vista, only Home Premium and Ultimate, not the regular or
business version, not without third party software because Microsoft
it too damn cheap to include the necessary codecs (encoders).

 

[Chad Harris]

The OP didn't qualify burning with the requirements of music or video. You
can burn pics in Vista.

CH

 

[Guest]

Hi Kevin:

From: By Don Jones, Windows XP Expert Zone Community Columnist. Published:
November 25, 2002

"Windows XP doesn't contain built-in support for burning DVDs. However,
Microsoft plans on including built-in support for DVD write capability in the
next version of Windows. For a look at the issues involved in planning and
developing which DVD technologies to support, read the Windows Platform
Development article, DVD Writing Support and Windows."

See:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/expert/jones_02november25.mspx

for more information.

 

[Richard Urban]

Don Jones is right. There is no inbuilt support in Windows XP for writing to
DVD's.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Chad Harris]

Yo Kevin. Much of what is asked here and in setup has nothing to do with
Vitsta except perhaps that the poster happens to have Vista on a box. It's
useless to worry about that because when the newsgroup titles have Vista in
them don't mean a damn thing.

Welcome to gen Y, the people who have their phone glued to their ears, the
people who stare for hours at phones in shopping center and grocery store
parking lots and on the streets, the people who punctuate every 3 words with
the word "like" and instant gratification of the superficial.

This ridiculous thread has continued, because the one way for whomever
doubts you can write to CDs in XP and CDs/DVDs in Vista have been apparently
too lazy to try--and then instead of getting a life someone has wanted to
throw in video lol.

It could have been solved by going to Help and Support in Vista or in XP,
but that would have involved hard labor like clicking the mouse on the Start
menu and then another mouse click and typing in search and that's like
bummer a lot of work.

CH

 

[Chad Harris]

Lol I wonder what Help and Support in either Vista or XP would have done to
clarify this and 87% of the questions posted here and in setup.


CH

 

[Guest]

Dear Chad: You shouldn't jump to conclusions about people you don't know.
I'm an old veteran who once risked his life for you. Aside from that, the
inital question flowed from an earlier question on the Vista forum involving
both Vista and XP DVD writing capablities. Perhaps it should have been moved
to XP when it came down to just that, but I forgot the topic had shifted to
XP and no longer concerned Vista.

I'm very sorry to have wasted your time.

 

[Adam Albright]

The OP didn't qualify burning with the requirements of music or video. You
can burn pics in Vista.

Half a answer is a incorrect answer.

 

[DP]

And can't you burn music via media player?

The OP didn't qualify burning with the requirements of music or video.
You can burn pics in Vista.

CH

 

[Adam Albright]

Yo Kevin. Much of what is asked here and in setup has nothing to do with
Vitsta except perhaps that the poster happens to have Vista on a box. It's
useless to worry about that because when the newsgroup titles have Vista in
them don't mean a damn thing.

Me worry? No, much amusement is gotten in newsgroups like this from
reading rants from fanboys like you.

Welcome to gen Y, the people who have their phone glued to their ears, the
people who stare for hours at phones in shopping center and grocery store
parking lots and on the streets, the people who punctuate every 3 words with
the word "like" and instant gratification of the superficial.

This ridiculous thread has continued, because the one way for whomever
doubts you can write to CDs in XP and CDs/DVDs in Vista have been apparently
too lazy to try--and then instead of getting a life someone has wanted to
throw in video lol.

It could have been solved by going to Help and Support in Vista or in XP,
but that would have involved hard labor like clicking the mouse on the Start
menu and then another mouse click and typing in search and that's like
bummer a lot of work.

When many people think of "burning" a DVD, they either think of
copying some commerical movie or making a home brew variety of their
own design. Sorry you didn't "get-it", but so many wannabe types never
get it in so-called support groups which makes me wonder why they're
here.

What looking up "DVD" in Vista's help ACTUALLY says:

1. Burn a CD or DVD

"If your computer includes a CD or DVD recorder, you can copy files to
a writeable disc. This process is called burning a disc. By default,
Windows burns discs in the Live File System format, but you can also
choose to burn discs in the Mastered format.

Note
You can use Windows to burn a data disc, which is useful for storing,
archiving, and sharing files among different computers. If you want to
make a disc that will play in a music or video player, you should burn
the disc using a music or video program."

Just another fanboy for reasons only known to him blindly defending
stupid MicroCrap practices.

 

[Adam Albright]

Lol I wonder what Help and Support in either Vista or XP would have done to
clarify this and 87% of the questions posted here and in setup.

Get a clue, newsgroups like this are for DISCUSSION. If you don't want
to "discuss" what somebody asks, why instead bitch and moan?

Hint: That's why fanboys do 90% of the time.

Duh!

 

[XS11E]

And can't you burn music via media player?

Yes, I've done so in XP, haven't tried it in Vista but it's the same
Media Player so I think it should work.

 

[DanS]

A question has arisen... I said something and he said rubbish.. Who is
right? Read on...


<snip>

Rubbish!

Well Don, after reading through this whole thread, I'm not sure ANYONE
answered the question. There's not enough info here.

Noone else picked up on this apparently, but the question states using
DVD/CD +/-RW.....RW. Not R's.

In MY mind, whenever anyone mentions using an RW, it for UDF packet
reading/writing, to use a CD/DVD exactly as you would a floppy or another
HD.

IF, that is what the question was supposed to be, then NO, you can't
write to a UDF formatted CD/DVD RW w/o using something like Nero's InCD
or whatever Roxio's packet writing driver is (used to be DirectCD when it
was HP).

And if THAT is what the question _really_ was, you are indeed wrong.

 

[DanS]

Well Don, after reading through this whole thread, I'm not sure ANYONE
answered the question. There's not enough info here.

Noone else picked up on this apparently, but the question states using
DVD/CD +/-RW.....RW. Not R's.

In MY mind, whenever anyone mentions using an RW, it for UDF packet
reading/writing, to use a CD/DVD exactly as you would a floppy or
another HD.

IF, that is what the question was supposed to be, then NO, you can't
write to a UDF formatted CD/DVD RW w/o using something like Nero's
InCD or whatever Roxio's packet writing driver is (used to be DirectCD
when it was HP).

And if THAT is what the question _really_ was, you are indeed wrong.

No wait, I mis-read, DOH!! Rubbish! is wrong. Sorry bout that.

 

[Kevin Young]

Hi Kevin:

From: By Don Jones, Windows XP Expert Zone Community Columnist.
Published:
November 25, 2002

"Windows XP doesn't contain built-in support for burning DVDs. However,
Microsoft plans on including built-in support for DVD write capability in
the
next version of Windows. For a look at the issues involved in planning and
developing which DVD technologies to support, read the Windows Platform
Development article, DVD Writing Support and Windows."

See:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/moviemaker/expert/jones_02november25.mspx

for more information.

Thanks Don I stand corrected, not sure why you started the thread though if
you already had an answer.

 

[Kevin Young]

Yo Kevin. Much of what is asked here and in setup has nothing to do with
Vitsta except perhaps that the poster happens to have Vista on a box.
It's useless to worry about that because when the newsgroup titles have
Vista in them don't mean a damn thing.

Welcome to gen Y, the people who have their phone glued to their ears, the
people who stare for hours at phones in shopping center and grocery store
parking lots and on the streets, the people who punctuate every 3 words
with the word "like" and instant gratification of the superficial.

This ridiculous thread has continued, because the one way for whomever
doubts you can write to CDs in XP and CDs/DVDs in Vista have been
apparently too lazy to try--and then instead of getting a life someone has
wanted to throw in video lol.

It could have been solved by going to Help and Support in Vista or in XP,
but that would have involved hard labor like clicking the mouse on the
Start menu and then another mouse click and typing in search and that's
like bummer a lot of work.

CH

Yo Chad! ;-) Guess my fuse was a little short there!