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Zvi Netiv
Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
I think, which proves that I exist,
and IMO, that wouldn't make it easier,nor more difficult. It simply doesn't matter.
Regards, Zvi
I think, which proves that I exist,
and IMO, that wouldn't make it easier,nor more difficult. It simply doesn't matter.
Regards, Zvi
Z
Zvi Netiv
David H. Lipman said:
How were the kneidlach at your seder?
I disagree here. I have seen many installations where AV software is forbidden
for its unpredictable behavior, like life support and critical systems.
Besides, the OP made it quite clear that he wasn't the one to setup the server.
Regards, Zvi
G
Gabriele Neukam
On that special day, Beauregard T. Shagnasty,
([email protected]) said...
The only connection that I can imagine is, that the web site contained
a "mailto:" link that wasn't munged, and a visitor infected with netsky
had this site in his cache (TIF), so Netsky could read it and send an
infected mail there.
But still Richard can not be blamed for designing the web site like
this. The recipient of the worm was the one who *ran* it. Without user
interaction, the infection would not have happened.
And munging email addresses on websites is no good idea; the visually
impaired cannot read gif pictures, and a replacement of an at sign with
a hex64 or whatever it is, wouldn't help much; modern worms can extract
this just as well, in the same way, as address harvesters do it
already. A mailto is no cause for the infection per se, no matter what
the web site owner is claiming to avoid being responsible himself.
Gabriele Neukam
(e-mail address removed)
([email protected]) said...
The only connection that I can imagine is, that the web site contained
a "mailto:" link that wasn't munged, and a visitor infected with netsky
had this site in his cache (TIF), so Netsky could read it and send an
infected mail there.
But still Richard can not be blamed for designing the web site like
this. The recipient of the worm was the one who *ran* it. Without user
interaction, the infection would not have happened.
And munging email addresses on websites is no good idea; the visually
impaired cannot read gif pictures, and a replacement of an at sign with
a hex64 or whatever it is, wouldn't help much; modern worms can extract
this just as well, in the same way, as address harvesters do it
already. A mailto is no cause for the infection per se, no matter what
the web site owner is claiming to avoid being responsible himself.
Gabriele Neukam
(e-mail address removed)
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David H. Lipman
From: "Zvi Netiv" <support@replace_with_domain.com>
|
|>>>> Who is responsible for installing anti virus software.
|>>>>
|>>>> I am a website designer and have a client how I have designed a site for who
|>>>> has a virus named NETSKY. They inform me it is my fault and I should have
|>>>> installed anti virus software on my clients PC.
|>>
|>> [...]
|>>>> Who is to blame! Not wishing to blame him but clear my reputation once and
|>>>> for all.
|>>>>
|>>>> Any help would be great - also links to legal cases where this may have come
|>>>> up in the past.
|>>>>
|>>>> Richard-at-Lionheart-Graphics.co.uk (take out all the -'S) cheers|>>
|>> What difference does it make who set up the server? Who set it up isn't
|>> responsible either. The party that is "responsible" for becoming infected, if
|>> there is any responsibility at all, is the user.
|
|>> Happy Passover, Zvi|
| How were the kneidlach at your seder?
||
| I disagree here. I have seen many installations where AV software is forbidden
| for its unpredictable behavior, like life support and critical systems.
| Besides, the OP made it quite clear that he wasn't the one to setup the server.
|
| Regards, Zvi
| --
| NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
| InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
I don't like kneidlach. Just the soup and veggies.
It must be real tough on the Orthodox to deal with Shabbos and Pesach together. I
understand there have only been less than a dozen times in the last century where the 1st
nite of Pesach was on Shabbos. My brother probably held his sedor till 3~4am this morning !
BTW: Are you Ashkenazie or Sephardic ? I'm Ashkenazie.
|
|>>>> Who is responsible for installing anti virus software.
|>>>>
|>>>> I am a website designer and have a client how I have designed a site for who
|>>>> has a virus named NETSKY. They inform me it is my fault and I should have
|>>>> installed anti virus software on my clients PC.
|>>
|>> [...]
|>>>> Who is to blame! Not wishing to blame him but clear my reputation once and
|>>>> for all.
|>>>>
|>>>> Any help would be great - also links to legal cases where this may have come
|>>>> up in the past.
|>>>>
|>>>> Richard-at-Lionheart-Graphics.co.uk (take out all the -'S) cheers|>>
|>> What difference does it make who set up the server? Who set it up isn't
|>> responsible either. The party that is "responsible" for becoming infected, if
|>> there is any responsibility at all, is the user.
|
|>> Happy Passover, Zvi|
| How were the kneidlach at your seder?
||
| I disagree here. I have seen many installations where AV software is forbidden
| for its unpredictable behavior, like life support and critical systems.
| Besides, the OP made it quite clear that he wasn't the one to setup the server.
|
| Regards, Zvi
| --
| NetZ Computing Ltd. ISRAEL www.invircible.com www.ivi.co.il (Hebrew)
| InVircible Virus Defense Solutions, ResQ and Data Recovery Utilities
I don't like kneidlach. Just the soup and veggies.
It must be real tough on the Orthodox to deal with Shabbos and Pesach together. I
understand there have only been less than a dozen times in the last century where the 1st
nite of Pesach was on Shabbos. My brother probably held his sedor till 3~4am this morning !
BTW: Are you Ashkenazie or Sephardic ? I'm Ashkenazie.
R
Richard Budd
what an overwhelming response from you all. thank you.
just a few points to clarify.
1) I designed the website using standard html and a mailto: script to make
email links.
2) this was hosted on a server under my control (and paid for by me)
3) the client had no Anti virus software on an old laptop (unbeknown to me)
4) the virus was (allegedly) on his laptop using an existing dialup account
i hope this helps answer a few points for all
Richard
just a few points to clarify.
1) I designed the website using standard html and a mailto: script to make
email links.
2) this was hosted on a server under my control (and paid for by me)
3) the client had no Anti virus software on an old laptop (unbeknown to me)
4) the virus was (allegedly) on his laptop using an existing dialup account
i hope this helps answer a few points for all
Richard
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Zvi Netiv
David H. Lipman said:
|>> Happy Passover, Zvi
|
| How were the kneidlach at your seder?
Pity, because kneidlach can make a great generic AV, when thrown at the virus'
eye. ;-)
I am from ashkenazie roots (parents were from Czechoslovakia & Hungary and I was
born in Belgium) and changed my name to Zvi Netiv after immigrating from post
war Europe. My wife is sephardic (Bulgaria) and the kneidlach are from my
heritage.
On the sephardic side, my in laws passed to me their secrets on Jewish-Balkanian
cooking, of which I became a specialist.
Cheers, Zvi
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Dave Budd
What was in the job spec?
D
Dave Budd
So, if he's trying to get out of paying you with this lame
excuse, you can take his website away? Excellent!