What's the point?

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Paul

I have been running MSAS for a couple of days, but what I
don't understand is why it doesn't detect tracking
cookies. Surely, that's the whole point of such a package?

I scanned my system yesterday with Adaware and I have
just scanned it now a day later and 10 Tracking Cookies
were discovered.

Should I be uninstalling MSAS and go back to Adaware?
 
B

Bill Sanderson

It doesn't detect tracking cookies. Microsoft (apparently) agrees that
tracking cookies are an issue--see the second part of the spyware quiz which
you can reach from the home page.

However, it isn't in this product at this point. They've said it (cookie
scanning and selective removal) may be back in a later beta version.

There's considerably more to the beta than cookie tracking, though. The
real-time protection is one thing, as well as detection and cleaning which
outshine the competition in reviews.
 
A

Andre Da Costa

A

Alan

Just a little FYI:

There has been a lot of debate as to what parameters make
up a tracking cookie. Since there is no single consensus
as to what defines a tracking cookie, every anti-spyware
program defines tracking cookies differently. And some
of these definitions are made arbitrarily, without much
input from the end-user. This is bad for everyone
involved, as there are differing views as what a tracking
cookie is amongst end-users. Microsoft has said that
they are going to decide what course of action they will
take depending upon the reponses they recieve (in the
newsgroup) during the beta testing period. This will
allow them to address this issue in a manner that will
appeal to most users, which is different than what many
other software companies operate (i.e. they (other
companies) make a program that we (end-users) either
like, or we hate, with little ground inbetween). Now
onto other matters pertaining to "tracking cookies."

First of all, most tracking cookies are third-party in
origin. A third-party cookie is from a differnt host
domain than the host domain of the web page you are
currently viewing. Many of these types of cookies are
from advertisers.

The main thing to be concerned about isn't if it's
a "tracking cookie," it's to be concerned if it uses
personally identifiable information. Since we are mainly
concerned with our privacy and security, the cookies
(both first-party and third-party) that really need to be
dealt with are of this type. You can block these in IE 6
by going to Tools > Internet Options... and click on the
Privacy tab, and set the level to Medium High, or
higher. BE WARNED, setting the level TOO HIGH can result
in some web pages NOT working at all.

The problem that I have with the way some programs
approach tracking cookies, and cookies in general, is to
deal with all of them the same. This is totally the
wrong approach, as many cookie only contain preference
settings, and deleting these have caused many naive users
the curse the web designer who created the web site, or
their computer for "not remembering" their preferences.
Since this program is designed to be distributed to the
mases, a different approach to cookies is indeed
warrented. The reason for this is that Microsoft is
trying to redesign this program to be aimed towards all
users, not just the experienced users that most other
programs of this type were designed towards.

So basically, the point is, most tracking cookies ARE NOT
spyware. Spyware, as the name implies, are programs, not
data files. Most spyware is written to obtain personal
information, damage your system, gain control of your
system and use it to do what the program writers wants it
to do, or any combination of the above points.

Alan
 
P

Paul

It would be nice to have the feature and turn it off if
you don't want it. Surely, that would be the best for
everyone?

I don't like the idea of having 2 or 3 programs all doing
the same thing. I would much prefer to stick with one.

All the trancking cookies that Ad-Watch found were indeed
from advertisers. Personally, I don't want them on my
machine.

The reason why I don't just stick to Ad-Watch is because
it slows IE starting up, making it take up to 20 seconds
just to open!
 
J

JohnF.

Set IE to block cookies then.


Paul said:
It would be nice to have the feature and turn it off if
you don't want it. Surely, that would be the best for
everyone?

I don't like the idea of having 2 or 3 programs all doing
the same thing. I would much prefer to stick with one.

All the trancking cookies that Ad-Watch found were indeed
from advertisers. Personally, I don't want them on my
machine.

The reason why I don't just stick to Ad-Watch is because
it slows IE starting up, making it take up to 20 seconds
just to open!
 

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