M
Merrill P. L. Worthington
know said:
For the last week or so, it seems apparent to me that VanShania is just
trolling.
For the last week or so, it seems apparent to me that VanShania is just
trolling.
M
Merrill P. L. Worthington
Guest said:
Linux isn't perfect. But if it create competition for Microsoft, then
its good for the industry.
What Linux needs to take off is a great office suite that is truly
interoperable with MS Office. If that is developed (look for the
Chinese), then Microsoft has a problem.
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NoNoBadDog!
Hmmm...a troll that can't spell!
It's *LINUX*.
Sucks being you, huh?
Bobby
It's *LINUX*.
Sucks being you, huh?
Bobby
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NoNoBadDog!
know code said:
And yet another uneducated script kiddie joins the fray....
I have installed Windows on thousands of machines over the years, and very
few had any of the problems you describe, and most often problems were due
to third party software and not Windows.
Yes, linux is a very nice OS...but not for your average computer buyer.
Bobby
R
Rich
In the beginning, Microsoft wanted a certain degree of piracy because
it was the best way to get the word out on their products. Now, they
seem to want to bleed people for as much as they can, as fast as they
can because they know it's only a matter of time before people start
seriously looking at alternatives.
M
Merrill P. L. Worthington
Maybe that's her problem. She's critical of Linix and we think she's
critical of Linux
critical of Linux
W
Wes Newell
Yes, Linux is perfect, or as close to it you can get. Let's see, it's
supported on many different hardware platforms. There aren't any viruses
for it. It's free. There's tons of free software for it. So free, on about
any hareware platform. What more could one ask of a perfect OS?
Do I care what you use? Hell no. Do I hate MS? No more than than I'd hate
any other lying SOB.
K
know code
NoNoBadDog! said:
Script kiddie? Hardly. I've been using Windoze for ~15 years (and DOS
for a number of years before that) and *nix type OS's for ~12 years!
And in that time, the OS that has had the most problems, and by a huge
margin too, has been Windoze. So, just basing my opinion on a total of
~27 years experience! Now, installing Windoze on thousands of computers
is fine... or course it will work well on a fresh install, but give it a
year or so with a clueless user who doesn't keep his virus definitions
up-to-date, doesn't defrag the disk regularly, doesn't remove spyware
regularly.... yes, I've worked on and fixed more computers like this
than I care to remember. By the same token, check a linux box after a
year and I think you'll find it will be running a lot smoother with a
lot less junkware.
As for linux not being for your average computer buyer? Have you tried
a recent version lately? It seems to be going down a storm in places
like China and Africa without many major issues!
K
know code
Merrill said:
Openoffice 2.0 (free). It is fully interoperable with ~99% of
everything that MS Office can do. Yes there are a few (obscure)
features that still don't work properly but for about 99% of the general
population, it may as well be MS Office as far as they'd be concerned.
K
know code
NoNoBadDog! said:
Good point. I guess if VanShania can't even spell the name of the OS,
they he/she/it doesn't have much experience with it so doesn't know what
he/she/it is talking about. I guess just another brain-washed M$ drone
M
Merrill P. L. Worthington
know said:
I have to differ a little on that point. There are certainly claims
about Open Office interoperability. Its close, but there is a loss of
document formatting in the word processor that puts a bee under my hat.
BTW, I haven't had any problems with the Open Office spreadsheet software.
My wife uses several Windows specific CAD applications for home
embroidery machines. There isn't anything close for Linux.
Don't misunderstand me. I would MUCH RATHER use Linux than MS Windows
and do on some of our systems at home. A friend of mine has several
computers at home for his family. All Linux. That's where I'd like to be.
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NoNoBadDog!
Wes Newell said:Yes, Linux is perfect, or as close to it you can get. Let's see, it's
supported on many different hardware platforms. There aren't any viruses
for it. It's free. There's tons of free software for it. So free, on about
any hareware platform. What more could one ask of a perfect OS?
Do I care what you use? Hell no. Do I hate MS? No more than than I'd hate
any other lying SOB.
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News Flash; There *ARE* viruses on the linux platform. Linux boxes are not
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Bobby
K
know code
NoNoBadDog! said:
Did we ever say otherwise? And care to name just one that has spread in
the wild? Didn't think so.
Yes, there are proof of concept viruses for linux in the lab but due to
the source code being freely available and the way security is enabled
within linux they cannot and have not spread. And if there was a
weakness that the virus was exploiting, it is usually patched within hours.
*That* is the difference between a real OS and a poorly designed and
maintained one.
B
Bill
Well, you asked. http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/bliss/
But in the real world: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
Bill
K
know code
Bill said:
And the key phrase in that link is "Moral: don't run it, especially if
you're root". Which brings me right back to what I said... "the way
security is enabled within linux they cannot and have not spread". If
you are going to run programs or whatever as root, then you are actively
circumventing the inbuilt protections of the linux OS, and thus deserve
all that happens... Only an idiot, or someone very careless, would run
an unknown piece of code as root!
And this one explains nicely what I was trying to say about how viruses
don't spread on linux...
J
john_doe
LOL. Pirating Vista. That would be funny. If you could pirate it,
it would pretty much be a failure. No need to switch from XP.
J
john_doe
The theological implications alone are staggering.
Linus.
K
know code
So, it will be a failure then
Going on past history, I can't thinkof a single M$ OS or app than hasn't been pirated....
J
john_doe
(spewing coffee all over the computer screen)
say what ?
I've got a copy of Office sitting around here somewhere. Bloated
piece of shit. When I upgraded my motherboard, I didn't bother
reloading the garbage.
Stick to your black helicopter posts.
B
Boe
Actually I think pirating is the thing that might save it. The price is too
high - too many companies I consult for will want to get XP. Most companies
are very conservative about even going to a new OS until at least the first
SP. By that time people who've cracked it will have at least more people
using the OS and familiar with it. The lack of sales due to absurdly high
pricing (as someone already said - about as much as most people want to
spend on the PC itself) will probably cause MS to halve the price. I'm sure
they'll couch it to avoid saying it was to expensive by packaging it - like
half price with a new PC or half price when you buy Office, a mouse or any
other MS product.
Just my opinions of course no real way of knowing squat until about 1 year
from now.
high - too many companies I consult for will want to get XP. Most companies
are very conservative about even going to a new OS until at least the first
SP. By that time people who've cracked it will have at least more people
using the OS and familiar with it. The lack of sales due to absurdly high
pricing (as someone already said - about as much as most people want to
spend on the PC itself) will probably cause MS to halve the price. I'm sure
they'll couch it to avoid saying it was to expensive by packaging it - like
half price with a new PC or half price when you buy Office, a mouse or any
other MS product.
Just my opinions of course no real way of knowing squat until about 1 year
from now.