Visual Studio Express is now free forever

[Rimmy]

For those who where (as always) crying that VSE is now free but it sucks
because will not be free in the future and because (of course) it has the
two letters of the devil on it:

At this weekend's Maker Faire, Microsoft Corp. will display how a variety of
innovative companies are using its now-free Visual Studio® 2005 Express
editions to bring the power of code to the growing community of 18 million
recreational and hobbyist developers. Since the launch of the Visual Studio
and SQL ServerT Express editions on Nov. 7, 2005, a strong community has
built up around the products and the various editions have been downloaded
more than 5 million times.....
Microsoft also released new learning content on the MSDN Coding4Fun Web
site, providing tools and resources for the community to get up and running
quickly. The Visual Studio 2005 Express editions now join the SQL Server
2005 Express editions as a no-cost offering within the Microsoft application
platform.

"Software has the potential to transform everyday lives. By making the
Visual Studio 2005 Express editions available free of charge, we're putting
the power of programming into the hands of an exploding community of
recreational programmers," said S. Somasegar, corporate vice president of
the Developer Division at Microsoft. "This community has asked for it, and
we are excited to provide it."

 

[Rimmy]

Rimmy wrote:

what would you choose: VB.Net, C#, Java or PHP?

For web development? C# hands down. Again, I am not interested in a
religious discussion, I'm sorry.

 

[John Corliss]

For those who where (as always) crying that VSE is now free but it sucks
because will not be free in the future and because (of course) it has the
two letters of the devil on it:

At this weekend's Maker Faire, Microsoft Corp. will display how a variety of
innovative companies are using its now-free Visual Studio® 2005 Express
editions to bring the power of code to the growing community of 18 million
recreational and hobbyist developers. Since the launch of the Visual Studio
and SQL ServerT Express editions on Nov. 7, 2005, a strong community has
built up around the products and the various editions have been downloaded
more than 5 million times..... (clipped)

Almost makes me want to install dotnet.

Almost, but not quite. 80)>

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[Rimmy]

Almost, but not quite. 80)>

PLease don't forget to delete User32.dll and Kernel32.dll also. It contains
a lot of API functions as well!

 

[BoB]

For those who where (as always) crying that VSE is now free but it sucks
because will not be free in the future and because (of course) it has the
two letters of the devil on it:

At this weekend's Maker Faire, Microsoft Corp. will display how a variety of
innovative companies are using its now-free Visual Studio?2005 Express
editions to bring the power of code to the growing community of 18 million
recreational and hobbyist developers. Since the launch of the Visual Studio
and SQL ServerT Express editions on Nov. 7, 2005, a strong community has
built up around the products and the various editions have been downloaded
more than 5 million times.....
Microsoft also released new learning content on the MSDN Coding4Fun Web
site, providing tools and resources for the community to get up and running
quickly. The Visual Studio 2005 Express editions now join the SQL Server
2005 Express editions as a no-cost offering within the Microsoft application
platform.

"Software has the potential to transform everyday lives. By making the
Visual Studio 2005 Express editions available free of charge, we're putting
the power of programming into the hands of an exploding community of
recreational programmers," said S. Somasegar, corporate vice president of
the Developer Division at Microsoft. "This community has asked for it, and
we are excited to provide it."

For anyone who cares, I was advised MS Visual Studio installs 32,230
entries into the registry. If your registry is near the max in Win98
[9meg], you may want to think twice about installing it.

BoB

 

[Rimmy]

For anyone who cares, I was advised MS Visual Studio installs 32,230
entries into the registry. If your registry is near the max in Win98
[9meg], you may want to think twice about installing it.

Visual Studio does not run in Windows 9x. 2000 or better is needed so even
if you want you won't install it on 9x. Sorry.

 

[Rimmy]

For anyone who cares, I was advised MS Visual Studio installs 32,230
entries into the registry. If your registry is near the max in Win98
[9meg], you may want to think twice about installing it.

Keep repeating rumors and lies. It won't do you smarter but you make a lot
of (ignorant) people glad. 38 subkeys are installed under ONE key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio

and 4 keys are installed under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio

Total: 5 subkeys and 2 kesy. 236 Values. (32,230? Big difference in my
opinion, but keep spreading it)

 

[Thorsten Duhn]

Hello,

what would you choose: VB.Net, C#, Java or PHP?

correct answer: depends ;-) Java and PHP are not well for
desktop applications, for web development the question is,
where you wanna host your app. PHP is widely available,
but Java is by far better for structured programming.
PHP is better for scripting, little pages with simple
functions (better means with less overhead, easier to
transfer to other web hosting environments).

If you have the choice, C# is not that bad also, stealing
the best from C++ and Java ;-)

Regards,
Thorsten

 

[Rimmy]

Hello,

If you have the choice, C# is not that bad also, stealing
the best from C++ and Java ;-)

*Taking* the best out of java and C++ ,if you prefer. The same way Java took
the best of C++, C++ took the best of C, C the best of BCPL, etc. Or you use
the word stealing because the origin of the language?

 

[John Corliss]

PLease don't forget to delete User32.dll and Kernel32.dll also. It contains
a lot of API functions as well!

Matter of degree.

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I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc (who uses sock puppets)
for instance. No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware,
demoware, nagware, PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited
software, trialware, viruses or warez for me, please.

 

[Chris Lee]

Hello,


correct answer: depends ;-) Java and PHP are not well for
desktop applications, for web development the question is,
where you wanna host your app. PHP is widely available,
but Java is by far better for structured programming.
PHP is better for scripting, little pages with simple
functions (better means with less overhead, easier to
transfer to other web hosting environments).

If you have the choice, C# is not that bad also, stealing
the best from C++ and Java ;-)

Regards,
Thorsten
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Stealing is about the *ONLY THING* the You Microsoft Clowns are able
to these days and you can't even do *THAT* very well.

 

[Rimmy]

Stealing is about the *ONLY THING* the You Microsoft Clowns are able
to these days and you can't even do *THAT* very well.

Oh I understand. Linuz is so original. And Open Offize. And Firefoz...

 

[Thorsten Duhn]

Hello,

*Taking* the best out of java and C++ ,if you prefer. The
same way Java took the best of C++, C++ took the best of C,
C the best of BCPL, etc. Or you use the word stealing
because the origin of the language?

yeah yeah, you're right, hey, I was joking, I marked it using
a smiley, calm down, please...

IE will get tabs, just like Firefox has, and they took it from
Opera etc. There is always lots of inspiration around, and as
long as they do so themselves, they reduce all their collected
software patents to the absurd.

Regards,
Thorsten

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

IE will get tabs, just like Firefox has

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

IE 7 beta already has tabs. I've been using it for a couple of months.
Works great, no bugs so far.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx

Bill T.

 

[Thorsten Duhn]

Hello,

IE 7 beta already has tabs.

why is this happening to me?

Of course BETA is already around...
But no official release version...
It was just an example...
Doesn't really count...

I just wanted to explain, why my usage of "stealing"
was meant as some kind of irony...

EOT

 

[BoB]

For anyone who cares, I was advised MS Visual Studio installs 32,230
entries into the registry. If your registry is near the max in Win98
[9meg], you may want to think twice about installing it.

Keep repeating rumors and lies. It won't do you smarter but you make a lot
of (ignorant) people glad. 38 subkeys are installed under ONE key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio

and 4 keys are installed under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio

Total: 5 subkeys and 2 kesy. 236 Values. (32,230? Big difference in my
opinion, but keep spreading it)

I was given the 32,230 figure couple years ago. Thanks for the more
accurate info. My install of WMP9 showed Keys added: 2400, Values
added: 4958 Total = 7358. Haven't personally seen one higher than
that.

BoB

 

[Bill Turner]

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

why is this happening to me?

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Because you are careless about which version you are talking about.

Bill T.

 

[Ross]

*Taking* the best out of java and C++ ,if you prefer. The same way Java took
the best of C++, C++ took the best of C, C the best of BCPL, etc. Or you use
the word stealing because the origin of the language?

If you want the best all-rounder, Python is the best. Easier to learn,
easier to maintain, cross platform and of course - free forever.

 

[Marten Kemp]

If you want the best all-rounder, Python is the best. Easier to learn,
easier to maintain, cross platform and of course - free forever.

REXX, of course.


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