Vista to be included in MS Partner Action Pack?

T

Tachyon

Just a thought - will Vista (the final market release version) be included
in the MS Action Pack content updates for Partner Subscribers sometime in
the first half of 2007?

The first public Betas for Vista as well as Office 2007 were included in the
July consignment.

Regards and thanks.

Tachyon
 
B

Barry Watzman

I am absolutely certain that it will be. Question is, which version(s)
of Vista.
 
T

Tachyon

My response at the bottom:

Tachyon said:
Just a thought - will Vista (the final market release version) be included
in the MS Action Pack content updates for Partner Subscribers sometime in
the first half of 2007?

The first public Betas for Vista as well as Office 2007 were included in
the
July consignment.

Regards and thanks.

Tachyon


Thanks for the encouraging responses. I would think (and wish!) they would
include the Ultimate edition as that was the edition of the beta they
shipped with the July update!

:)

Tachyon
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T

Terje Alexander Barth

Tachyon said:
Thanks for the encouraging responses. I would think (and wish!) they would
include the Ultimate edition as that was the edition of the beta they
shipped with the July update!

:)

Tachyon

I would guess it will be the Ultimate Edition since all the other versions
are ... crap for lack of a better word. :)


trivia:
"Tachyon, The Fringe", Good game with Bruce Campbell.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

WRONG, and this type of misinformation is the same that has encouraged many
users to buy Windows XP Pro thinking they would improve performance or
stability.

All versions have their purpose and markets and there is no need for someone
to waste their $ on a version that has features they will never need.
Ultimate is to much for many users and they will be better off with another
version.
 
T

Terje Alexander Barth

Jupiter Jones said:
WRONG, and this type of misinformation is the same that has encouraged many
users to buy Windows XP Pro thinking they would improve performance or
stability.

All versions have their purpose and markets and there is no need for someone
to waste their $ on a version that has features they will never need.
Ultimate is to much for many users and they will be better off with another
version.

How can it be misinformation when it is a statement expressing a personal view on the subject.

Here is a breakdown of the different versions:
- http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp

Now tell me in what way Windows Vista Starter Edition is better than
Windows Vista Ultimate.

For the Action Pack I guess the Business or Small Business Editions will work as well
although the lack of MUI might be a loss.


Here is more on why my original view on the other versions was 'crap':
- They contain less features than the Ultimate version.

Make a note that nowhere do I state that Ultimate will perform better
than the other versions, more likely it will perform worse since it
has a lot more stuff installed :)
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

All the Vista versions have their advantages and none are universally
"better".

"Now tell me in what way Windows Vista Starter Edition is better than
Windows Vista Ultimate."
The fact you even asked this question shows you miss or ignore some of the
basics.
"less features" is not always bad especially when those features are not
needed.
The Starter version can and probably is a far better option for many
similarly other versions will better meet the needs of the informed buyer
than Ultimate.
Clearly Ultimate is not the best for everyone.

Have you considered price?
Many have no need for the extra features and thus have no need to spend the
$ for Ultimate when other versions will meet the needs.
An informed buyer will not miss the missing features since they will not be
needed anyways, but they will keep some of their $.

Your "personal view" seems to be flawed since it seems to ignore price and
features gained by the added , many of which unneeded by most.
Perhaps the statement would have been more accurate if you had placed "for
me" in the sentence
 
T

Terje Alexander Barth

Jupiter Jones said:
All the Vista versions have their advantages and none are universally
"better".

"A More feature rich product",
"Gives you more options",
"A richer experience",
"Support more hardware",
"Extends to your Xbox360",
"Supports your in the Business AND at Home",
"Gives you all the tools",
"The most expensive operating system you can buy"

Certainly the sum of all or some of these 'traits' could earn
it the title "Better","Ultimate" if you will.

Although it DOES come at a higher cost.

So we are just arguing what we mean when we say something is "Better".
You might say "The better product is the one that meets the customers
current demands at the lowest price" whereas someone else might say
"the better product is the one with the most features".

The best choice does not have to be the better product. :)

The fact you even asked this question shows you miss or ignore some of the
basics.

I should have added somewhere in that sentence; "for you".
And even if one knows all the facts it is still possible to
ask someone for their opinion on the subject.

Tourist: "Is this the way to rome?" --
Person["rank"]: "The fact that you even asked this question shows you miss or
ignore the basic fact that 'all roads lead to rome'."

I could rephrase the question to "Show me how/why you think I am wrong."

"less features" is not always bad especially when those features are not
needed. The Starter version can and probably is a far better option for many

For example?

similarly other versions will better meet the needs of the informed buyer
than Ultimate.

For example?

Clearly Ultimate is not the best for everyone.

Now you are making a statement without backing it up with anything,
an example for (sigh) example, at least I provided a URL. :)

Have you considered price?

Does price decide if a product can be called better than another?
Cheaper or More Expensive surely, but better?

I do believe I considered price on some level, but it was far in
the back of my mind.

Many have no need for the extra features and thus have no need to spend the
$ for Ultimate when other versions will meet the needs.

The "average joe" customer will say:
"at this moment, with the money taken into account, product Y is the best
choice for me, but I know that product X has more features and can be
called a better one; so I vow today; I shall work hard at the steel mill,
so that in the end, one day, may it come soon, I can buy Vista Ultimate."

The "good" consultant will say:
"Based on your requirements and current needs we suggest you pick option Z"

The "good" salesman will say:
"Ultimate! It has everything, WOHOOO!!! High Five!"

An informed buyer will not miss the missing features since they will not be
needed anyways, but they will keep some of their $.

And when the time comes that the informed buyer requires some of
these missing features (that will not be needed anyways)
what will they do then, what will become of them?

Your "personal view" seems to be flawed since it seems to ignore price and
features gained by the added , many of which unneeded by most.
Perhaps the statement would have been more accurate if you had placed "for
me" in the sentence

How can a personal view be flawed if that view ignores the price?

Since I am making the statement, obviously it is for me and there should be
no need to add "for me" to any statements *I* make.

If I decided to sign with a professional title or other "credit" it might be
appropriate to add "for me", "based on my experience", "After 7 years of testing
I have come to the conclusion that... " and similar..
But since I dont sign that way, I dont have to add anything else either
I could just be a hillbilly talking FUD.
 

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