Vista or Linux. Doesn't matter.

[Gordon]

How do you know what I need? Do I know you?

Absolutely all file managers has a way to move up in a file system until
Microsoft decided to remove it.

How is clicking on the parent folder in the address bar REMOVING the ability
to go up the tree?

 

[D. Eth]

I did know about it and have tried using it, but can not see how having to
do several operations which in the past only required one is an
improvement. It's just that having access to plain vertical navigation is
something I have used since I started using computers. Microsoft even had
that in the first UI based file manager in DOS! I even prefer to have an
"up" eleemnt above the the folder listing so I can navigate vertially
using the keyboard. You can see how that's done in Total Commander (a
popular file manager for Windows):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Total_Commander.gif

If you notice the arrows on top of each pane, they take you up one level.
Makes navigation really fast. Windows Explorer doesn't have effcient
vertical navigatin in Vista at all anymore. Mac OSX and it's Next like
approach also has very efficient vertical navigation.

I must have a different Windows Explorer.
The left arrow key, Enter will move up in the tree step by step.

 

[ray]

You might consider installing one as a virtual machine inside the other -
it's much more efficient that dual booting.

 

[Gordon]

I did know about it and have tried using it, but can not see how having to
do several operations which in the past only required one is an
improvement.

Umm in the past to get to the parent of the parent meant TWO clicks of the
"up" button. In the new Vista way it means ONE click. How is that not an
improvement, or are you so wedded to the "up" button that you can't let go
of it?

 

[ceed]

I must have a different Windows Explorer.
The left arrow key, Enter will move up in the tree step by step.

If it does I want the version you have! Mine takes me back to the
previous folder I was in. If that happens to be one level up, I am taken
one level up. If I come from another folder I am taken back

 

[ceed]

You might consider installing one as a virtual machine inside the other -
it's much more efficient that dual booting.

That's a good idea, thanks! But I am going to end up with one of them
in the end. I just do not know which one I like better right now.

 

[D. Eth]

If it does I want the version you have! Mine takes me back to the
previous folder I was in. If that happens to be one level up, I am taken
one level up. If I come from another folder I am taken back

Just tried it...mouse clicked to far away branches, then into a long branch.
The keyboard took me in direct line to /.
Did not follow my mouse click jumping around.

 

[ceed]

How is clicking on the parent folder in the address bar REMOVING the
ability to go up the tree?

I didn't say the ability to move up is removed. I am saying that the
intuitive way I am used to with a dedicated button has been removed. I
just do not like that. An example is the new start menu in Vista which is
search based. However, you can still set it back to the way the start menu
worked in XP. Not so with navigation in Explorer where the up button has
been removed., I do not understand the rationale behind that.

This is from a Windows Explorer user guide: "....however the locations
have been changed a bit in favor of a breadcrumb navigation section,
meaning that as you go deeper into folders you can see the different
folders you have gone through to get to the last one but are able to
instantly click one, whether the folder was the first, middle or last one
that you browsed through to get back to it."

Read that! If that's intuitive then I admit I'm wrong an will never use an
up botton again. Shame on me!

 

[ceed]

Umm in the past to get to the parent of the parent meant TWO clicks of
the "up" button. In the new Vista way it means ONE click. How is that
not an improvement, or are you so wedded to the "up" button that you
can't let go of it?

I just tried it again. I clicked the up button once to get up one level.
What I do like about the new way is that you can get all the way to the
top in one click (if the path isn't too long). What's so wrong about
wanting both? I mean, it's only a tiny little modest button? I am not
"wedded" to anything but my wife, but why should I let go of it if I do
not want to? All I have been saying is that I miss it and use file
managers who still has an up button. Is that very wrong of me?

 

[Alias]

Read my response in the other thread: I did not say that Linux was
off-topic as long as it has a Windows Vista angle. However, a listing of
Ubuntu or Mac OSX features would, in my opinion, be ioff topic.

If someone is interested in Ubuntu, they just might like to know what it
can do. I suggest Ubuntu as an alternative to Vista. Hence, on topic.

Alias

 

[ceed]

If someone is interested in Ubuntu, they just might like to know what it
can do. I suggest Ubuntu as an alternative to Vista. Hence, on topic.

Alias

I use Linux Mint (Ubuntu based) together with Vista, so I know they
compare!

 

[Alias]

I use Linux Mint (Ubuntu based) together with Vista, so I know they
compare!

Mint is a bit too close to Windows for my taste.

Alias

 

[ceed]

Mint is a bit too close to Windows for my taste.

I like to be able to play media out of the box, and it sets up my whole
laptop without me having to do a thing (very different from when I set up
my first Debian laptop back in 98!). In Vista I need to install all kinds
of drivers to get things to work. In Mint it's all up after a 30 min
install!

So much for being OT...

 

[Alias]

I like to be able to play media out of the box, and it sets up my whole
laptop without me having to do a thing (very different from when I set
up my first Debian laptop back in 98!). In Vista I need to install all
kinds of drivers to get things to work. In Mint it's all up after a 30
min install!

So much for being OT...

I may give Mint a whirl when the new version comes out.

Alias

 

[ceed]

A Guy made a simple add on for explorer that adds an up button. He sells
the button for $5
thousands have downloaded it...

I would pay a lot more than that for an "Up" button. You guys who do not
need it should sell it to me!

 

[ceed]

I may give Mint a whirl when the new version comes out.
Alias

I'm using the XFCE (XFCE: now that's a desktop environment that really
shines!) community edition. I do not know how different that is from the
standard one.

 

[Frank]

If someone is interested in Ubuntu, they just might like to know what it
can do. I suggest Ubuntu as an alternative to Vista. Hence, on topic.

Alias

You are verifiably sick in your head!
Oh and thanks for verifying that fact!...LOL!

 

[Steve Thackery]

Windows Explorer doesn't have effcient vertical navigation in Vista at

all anymore.

You what??? That toolbar shows every vertical step above current directory.
That makes it MORE efficient than XP's.

SteveT

 

[Steve Thackery]

I did know about it and have tried using it, but can not see how having to

do several operations which in the past only required one is an
improvement.

What do you mean, "several operations"? It takes one click to go ANYWHERE
in the hierarchy.

SteveT

 

[Steve Thackery]

All I have been saying is that I miss it and use file managers who still

has an up button. Is that very wrong of me?

No, of course not. It's just that you've spectacularly failed to make a
good case for it.

SteveT