~!@#$%^&* Vista (i.e.: how to deactivate User Accounts Control; nanny hand-holding)

M

Manatee Memories

How in the ~!@#$%^&* to turn OFF that fsckin' User Accounts Control
(hand-holding of the user) which "requests" access on damn-near every
double-click? Other things hover at my mind's edge, but See Above holds
center.
 
X

XS11E

Manatee Memories said:
How in the ~!@#$%^&* to turn OFF that fsckin' User Accounts
Control (hand-holding of the user) which "requests" access on
damn-near every double-click? Other things hover at my mind's
edge, but See Above holds center.

To turn off UAC use the Vista help files, the explanation is pretty
clear.
 
M

Manatee Memories

by way of <[email protected]>, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general -->

[snip]
To turn off UAC use the Vista help files, the explanation is pretty
clear.

It may be quite clear to you, but I have no desire to find myself
proverbially elbow-deep in help-files which may (if past Microsoft
programming is any indicator) have me delving naught but "around &
around & around".
 
X

XS11E

Manatee Memories said:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:48:06 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
wrote, by way of <[email protected]>, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general -->

[snip]
To turn off UAC use the Vista help files, the explanation is
pretty clear.

It may be quite clear to you, but I have no desire to find myself
proverbially elbow-deep in help-files which may (if past Microsoft
programming is any indicator) have me delving naught but "around &
around & around".

OK, your choice.
 
C

Chad Harris

Whatup MM--

1) Using the help files is one of the best thing that could ever happen to
you. They are pretty damn good and if you can put in a half way decent
search term they are specific. Too bad they weren't linked to the MSKBs
though as well as they were with XP Help.

2) There are many ways to turn off UAC although learning to work with it is
preferable security wise. I take it you aren't enamoured with UAC. The UAC
team would be hyped though to get your impressions.

How to turn off UAC
http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2006/09/20/windows-vista-secret-4-disabling-uac.aspx

You can also do it simply by putting "msconfig" (lose quotes) in run
box>tools tab>highlight disable UAC>reboot.

As they say in Redmond Washington, "bada bing it's a piece of Caponata.

CH
 
K

Kerry Brown

There's also Google.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=how+to+turn+off+uac&meta=

Before you turn it off you may want to read more about it.

http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Security/uac.aspx

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Manatee Memories said:
by way of <[email protected]>, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general -->

[snip]
To turn off UAC use the Vista help files, the explanation is pretty
clear.

It may be quite clear to you, but I have no desire to find myself
proverbially elbow-deep in help-files which may (if past Microsoft
programming is any indicator) have me delving naught but "around &
around & around".
 
M

Manatee Memories

in said:
Manatee Memories said:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:48:06 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
wrote, by way of <[email protected]>, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general -->

[snip]
To turn off UAC use the Vista help files, the explanation is
pretty clear.

It may be quite clear to you, but I have no desire to find myself
proverbially elbow-deep in help-files which may (if past Microsoft
programming is any indicator) have me delving naught but "around &
around & around".

OK, your choice.

Yes, especially when the Vista box is connected only to itself (not
externally). But thank you for the assistance.
 
M

Manatee Memories

On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:44:30 -0400, "Chad Harris"
<vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote, by way of
in said:
Whatup MM--

1) Using the help files is one of the best thing that could ever happen to
you. They are pretty damn good and if you can put in a half way decent
search term they are specific. Too bad they weren't linked to the MSKBs
though as well as they were with XP Help.

2) There are many ways to turn off UAC although learning to work with it is
preferable security wise.

However, Vista is on the 2nd box, while I'm running XP (SP-2) on this
one. Box #1 has not-yet been connected to anything but itself; that is
why I feel reasonably safe "losing" UAC.
I take it you aren't enamoured with UAC. The UAC
team would be hyped though to get your impressions.

How to turn off UAC
http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2006/09/20/windows-vista-secret-4-disabling-uac.aspx

You can also do it simply by putting "msconfig" (lose quotes) in run
box>tools tab>highlight disable UAC>reboot.

As they say in Redmond Washington, "bada bing it's a piece of Caponata.

CH

Darn; I really should have pumped the salesman at Microcenter,
yesterday, for more info. Drat.
 
X

XS11E

Manatee Memories said:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:14:24 -0700, XS11E <[email protected]>
in said:
Manatee Memories said:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:48:06 -0700, XS11E
<[email protected]>, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general -->

[snip]
To turn off UAC use the Vista help files, the explanation is
pretty clear.

It may be quite clear to you, but I have no desire to find
myself proverbially elbow-deep in help-files which may (if past
Microsoft programming is any indicator) have me delving naught
but "around & around & around".

OK, your choice.

Yes, especially when the Vista box is connected only to itself
(not externally). But thank you for the assistance.

Did you even LOOK in the help file? It's right there, easy to
understand, no connection externally required.
 
R

Rich

How in the ~!@#$%^&* to turn OFF that (subsitute any object of anger)

so ...

.... overcome the desire to complain and/or conquer UAC for when you
understand UAC and use it wisely you therefore understand yourself


You should know ;)


Rich
 
R

Rock

Manatee Memories said:
How in the ~!@#$%^&* to turn OFF that fsckin' User Accounts Control
(hand-holding of the user) which "requests" access on damn-near every
double-click? Other things hover at my mind's edge, but See Above holds
center.


Check Vista's Help and Support or do a Google Search. Info readily
available.

Links with info on what UAC is all about:

Inside Windows Vista User Account Control (Mark Russinovich)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/UAC/default.aspx

Jesper Johansson's Blog
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jes...-about-vista-features-what-uac-really-is.aspx

Why is Windows Vista always asking for my permission: An explanation of UAC
(User Account Control) (MVP Jimmy Brush)
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx

Windows Vista User Account Control Step by Step Guide (MS Technet)
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

2) There are many ways to turn off UAC although learning to work with it is
preferable security wise. I take it you aren't enamoured with UAC.



I'm not enamored with UAC either, and I think its security value is
next to nothing. However turning it off can create other problems. For
example, some program installations (Adobe Reader 8, for example), and
possibly other programs, will fail, and fail mysteriously, with
telling you why they didn't run. For that reason, I recommend against
turning it off.
 
X

XS11E

Ken Blake said:
I'm not enamored with UAC either, and I think its security value
is next to nothing. However turning it off can create other
problems. For example, some program installations (Adobe Reader 8,
for example), and possibly other programs, will fail, and fail
mysteriously, with telling you why they didn't run. For that
reason, I recommend against turning it off.

FWIW, I can only give my own personal experience but I turned it off
when I first set up Vista Ultimate 64bit so I could install software
w/o fighting with it continually. As you pointed out, I did have to
turn it back on to install the Adobe Reader but then turned it back off
because it wouldn't not allow loading of some necessary startup items.

It's been off ever since so:

Install Vista, turn off UAC, install hardware and software except Adobe
Reader. Turn on UAC, reboot, install Adobe Reader, turn off UAC,
reboot and continue installing software, hardware and using Vista.

I don't recommend the above to others but it works for me.
As always, YMMV!
 
M

Manatee Memories

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:03:46 -0400, "Chad Harris"
<vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote, by way of
in said:
{...-}


You really should sell your box and take up knitting.

CH


Screw off. I bought the new box with my very-own hard earned money, and
I'll damn well turn off whatever the hell I want to.

Needless to say (and this is something that you & 1 or a few more people
hereabouts FAIL to realize, in your & their hysteria), the new box's UAC
will probably be re-activated come when I actually hook it up to my
cable modem (but *not* before then, when said new box is not connected
to the wider world).
 
M

Manatee Memories

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:15:41 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
in said:
I'm not enamored with UAC either, and I think its security value is
next to nothing. However turning it off can create other problems. For
example, some program installations (Adobe Reader 8, for example), and
possibly other programs, will fail, and fail mysteriously, with
telling you why they didn't run. For that reason, I recommend against
turning it off.

As I have explained elsewhere, the new box (containing Vista) has
not-yet been connected to the "outside" world (unlike what I am
currently typing on). When the AMD Athlon 4800+ x64 replaces this
P3/733, then (or, just slightly previous[ly]) I shall re-enable the UAC
function.

--

Life got you down? Want nothing than to curl up with your
[insert type of fav pet here], a glass of milk, and some
really great cookies?


http://preview.tinyurl.com/yrcz9v
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ynzgas
 

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