Vista gets owned

[Nina DiBoy]

http://Windows.Vista.JustGotOwned.com

Hacker, Microsoft duke it out over Vista design flaw
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=29

MS Watches as Vista Gets '0wn3d' by Rootkit
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1999241,00.asp

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[Saucy Lemon]

It's not a hole, per se, it just means that admins should only install from
reputable folks (of course). And it doesn't matter to standard user
accounts - only admins who do the installing anyway.

BTW, the root kit exploit was closed some time ago before Vista went RTM.
Next time you post a set of articles and draw such definite conclusions, you
should at least try to be up-to-date about it.

 

[Guest]

Agreed. From the eWeek article dated 8/4/2006:

"We've already fixed that path [of attack] … It's beta software that will
have bugs. That [attack scenario] has already been fixed in later builds,"
Fathi said.

 

[Kerry Brown]

Agreed. From the eWeek article dated 8/4/2006:

"We've already fixed that path [of attack] … It's beta software that will
have bugs. That [attack scenario] has already been fixed in later builds,"
Fathi said.

Actually out of the links that one is by far the scariest. The exploit has
wide ranging implications for all OS' not just Vista. It uses a flaw in
hardware virtualization that could allow a program to have complete control
of a computer in ways that would be almost impossible to detect. This
doesn't just affect Vista but any OS that runs on the newer AMD and Intel
CPUs with hardware virtualization. Any exploit for any OS could be used to
install a program that takes advantage of this hardware exploit. Once
installed the only way to get rid of it would be to remove the hard drive
and do it from another computer.

The actual flaw or exploit for Vista had two parts. The main one about
unsigned drivers was patched long before the RTM and only applies to Vista
x64. That vector of attack has always existed if unsigned drivers are
allowed so in a sense Vista x86 is vulnerable It's not an exploit per se but
a design decision to allow unsigned drivers. The exploit got around the
unsigned driver blocking in Vista X64. The other part of her exploit was
that it was easy to bypass UAC (which stopped the exploit by the way) by
just clicking on OK. That's a specious argument as that is the way UAC is
supposed to work. It gives you a choice to allow or disallow something from
happening. If social engineering can be used to persuade you click to OK
then that's a human exploit not a Vista exploit. The good news about the
whole thing is that UAC worked. If you didn't allow the program to continue
at the first UAC prompt then it was stopped dead.

 

[Rich]

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."''


and IDIOTS are oblivious
bet ya didn't know

Rich

 

[Nina DiBoy]

and IDIOTS are oblivious
bet ya didn't know

Rich

Don't like T. S. Eliot, eh?

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[Zim Babwe]

There you go again, sputtering trash from that gutter mouth of yours.

You a HO or something?

 

[Nina DiBoy]

It's not a hole, per se, it just means that admins should only install
from reputable folks (of course). And it doesn't matter to standard user
accounts - only admins who do the installing anyway.

In an ideal world. But this world ain't ideal.

BTW, the root kit exploit was closed some time ago before Vista went
RTM. Next time you post a set of articles and draw such definite
conclusions, you should at least try to be up-to-date about it.

It was to show some history and perspective. Vista has been owned
before, and it will be so again.

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[Nina DiBoy]

There you go again, sputtering trash from that gutter mouth of yours.

You a HO or something?

You'd like that wouldn't ya? LOL

It's very telling of your personality that you are so interested in so
many disgusting things.

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[Dale]

Well, like I said, Mark Russinovich, who discovered the Sony rootkit,
probably won't be announcing any more such discoveries. Why do you think
that, after at least 10 years of running Winternals and Systernals, suddenly
Microsoft wanted to buy him out? To shut him up, that's why.

Dale

 

[Dale]

And everyone in the world is looking for the latest cool gadgets for
SideBar. As I have said before. SideBar will be nothing more than a
playground for spyware.

Dale

 

[Dale]

Ok, so what's with that first link?

Dale

 

[Zim Babwe]

So you can tell alot about my personality? You think I'm interested in
disgusting things? Why do you need to be a trash mouth on these forums?
Maybe if you mouth is in the gutter, the rest of you is there also.

 

[Nina DiBoy]

Well, like I said, Mark Russinovich, who discovered the Sony rootkit,
probably won't be announcing any more such discoveries. Why do you
think that, after at least 10 years of running Winternals and
Systernals, suddenly Microsoft wanted to buy him out? To shut him up,
that's why.

Dale

Dale, I agree with you completely! I was so sad when MS bought them out.



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[Nina DiBoy]

Ok, so what's with that first link?

Dale

Click on it, it is both funny and safe. It's about vista getting owned.



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[Nina DiBoy]

So you can tell alot about my personality?

Only by what you post. Everyone else can too if they care to bother.

You think I'm interested in disgusting things?

Don't you think showing interest in whether others need to have their
monkey spanked or showing interest in whether others are a HO on the rag
is disgusting?

Wait - OMG, look who I'm asking.

Well, others would.

Why do you need to be a trash mouth on these forums?

So just because I say things that you don't care to hear I'm a trash
mouth, right?

Maybe if you mouth is in the gutter, the rest of you is there also.

Lay off of your sick fantasies about me they are getting quite tiresome.

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"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

 

[Zim Babwe]

The only fantasy I would have about you is: You are falling 30,000 feet
from an airplane, and you forgot your parachute! What's so sick about that?

I don't mind you saying almost anything, but why do you need to use foul
language? Yes, it's a public forum, but be civil about it.

I did notice that you took the offensive language out of your message.
Thank you.

 

[Sly Dog]

Enough.

Please...

The only fantasy I would have about you is: You are falling 30,000 feet
from an airplane, and you forgot your parachute! What's so sick about
that?

I don't mind you saying almost anything, but why do you need to use foul
language? Yes, it's a public forum, but be civil about it.

I did notice that you took the offensive language out of your message.
Thank you.

 

[Dale]

I had clicked it about 30 minutes before asking you what was up with it but
it opened in a new tab of IE 7 and I hadn't looked back to IE to see what
the site said. After that 30 minutes, I put my headphones on to listen to
some music and heard that awful racket. When I tracked down its source, I
had a moment of weakness in my long stated support of Vista security. I am
so ashamed!


Dale

 

[Nina DiBoy]

The only fantasy I would have about you is: You are falling 30,000 feet
from an airplane, and you forgot your parachute!

I'm truly flattered!

What's so sick about that?

Maybe just the loud splat at the end of the fall.

I don't mind you saying almost anything, but why do you need to use foul
language? Yes, it's a public forum, but be civil about it.

I did notice that you took the offensive language out of your message.
Thank you.

Interesting. I had no idea you were referring to the quote of another
poster in my sig when you refer to foul language. People should be
careful what they say or post, because it might come back and haunt
them. I was quoting another poster, but you gave me new material for my
sig. You should probably take your interest in people slapping their
monkey elsewhere, if not keep it to yourself entirely.

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