Vista dead slow!

J

John Barnes

An extra partition has NOTHING to do with anything the poster has indicated.
I would NOT reformat and reload unless you know what you are doing and what
the partition is.
 
J

john

Frank said:
Oh Doris, you've been drinking again, haven't you? Shame on you! What will
Rock say? These 'bouts" are becoming more frequent aren't they? You know,
lots of your fellow Hollywood types are doing the rehab thing...maybe you
should consider trying it too? What could it hurt? And all that boozing
just makes you look older and...oh well.
Frank

much as all your mindless ranting only makes you look dumber, if that's even
possible... oh well.
 
O

Otto Normalverbraucher

Andy said:
DELL Dimension E520, Vista home basic 3ghz, 512mb RAM 7200 SATA disk drive.
Vista really starting up slow running slow from opening up explorer to
opening up control panel to ages shutting down would be much faster if it
was XP loaded. No viruses or spyware what else could I be looking at?

What services/standard Vista programs running in the background could I stop
or end task to help speed the PC up? Defender is not running anyway.

Cheers,

Andy.

RAM is your bottleneck.
1gb at least IMO but I prefer 2gb.
 
R

Richard Urban

A USB thumb drive (used in Ready Boost mode) will never equal the speed of
RAM. I doubt if the "average" person would see a heck of a lot of difference
between 2 gig of RAM and 3-4 gig of RAM - unless you are rendering video or
doing extremely intense Photoshop work.

Also, with 2 gig of RAM you will get little to no benefit in using Ready
Boost.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
J

John Barnes

I agree completely. If you need a boost of performance with 2 gig of ram I
would suggest a faster CPU which is what I needed and it worked great. My
3500 was so with my normal workload and hung frequently with 2 gig ram. The
5200 works great. You may be okay with what you are doing with the extra 1
gig of ram you have on the way.
 
G

Guest

You could try this:System Manufacturer Dell Inc
System Model Dimension E521
System Type X86-based PC
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, 2000 Mhz, 1 Core(s), 1 Logical
Processor(s),
Total Physical Memory 3,325.69 MB
Available Physical Memory 2.01 GB
Total Virtual Memory 6.67 GB
Available Virtual Memory 5.48 GB
 
J

John Wesley Asquith

You could try this:System Manufacturer Dell Inc
System Model Dimension E521
System Type X86-based PC
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, 2000 Mhz, 1 Core(s), 1 Logical
Processor(s),
Total Physical Memory 3,325.69 MB
Available Physical Memory 2.01 GB
Total Virtual Memory 6.67 GB
Available Virtual Memory 5.48 GB

I've noticed Vista is markedly slower in bring up programs, even
Microsoft programs such as Excel and Word. Seems to take two or three
times as long as XP SP2. I have a similar computer to yours as for
clock speed, memory and disk access. Should be a lot faster but instead
it's slower. Don't know why.

Bill Gates has really outdone himself this time.

 
A

Andy

John Wesley Asquith said:
I've noticed Vista is markedly slower in bring up programs, even
Microsoft programs such as Excel and Word. Seems to take two or three
times as long as XP SP2. I have a similar computer to yours as for
clock speed, memory and disk access. Should be a lot faster but instead
it's slower. Don't know why.

Bill Gates has really outdone himself this time.

Yes, it seems to be going backwards instead of forwards - when you buy a new
PC with Vista on it you don't expect the programs to start up slower than
they did on your Windows XP2 PC would you. And also look how long to still
get to your desktop icons from starting up the PC.

I thought they said years ago that future operating systems would cut out
all this long staring up of the PC and that they said in the future when you
power on your PC the Desktop Icons would come up almost immediately? - well
that never happened then!

Andy.
 
F

Frank

Andy said:
Yes, it seems to be going backwards instead of forwards - when you buy a new
PC with Vista on it you don't expect the programs to start up slower than
they did on your Windows XP2 PC would you. And also look how long to still
get to your desktop icons from starting up the PC.

I thought they said years ago that future operating systems would cut out
all this long staring up of the PC and that they said in the future when you
power on your PC the Desktop Icons would come up almost immediately? - well
that never happened then!

Andy.
Didn't you realize that the hardware requirements for Vista are higher
than for XP, especially with implementation of DX-10? Or did you rely on
your computer supplier to correctly build your computer to fully run all
the feature of Vista?
Frank
 
L

LoneStar

Andy said:
I thought they said years ago that future operating systems would cut out
all this long staring up of the PC and that they said in the future when
you power on your PC the Desktop Icons would come up almost immediately? -
well that never happened then!

Andy.

It did happen to me! I have a new Dell XPS 410 and DIDN'T skimp on
memory -- 2 GB. This is the fastest computer I've ever owned, and I've been
there since DOS II. After my boot-ups, I give the Dell a couple of minutes
and let it configure RAM with my usual apps (automatically) and they all
come up instantaneously. Word, Excel, Paint.NET, etc., are on the screen
almost before I can take my finger off the left mouse double-click button.
My Internet is faster than with my other Dell with XP and IE6. Go figure.

Vista is slow for some people because they didn't get enough RAM, have too
much bloatware running (go to msconfig and FIX IT!) and have unnecessary,
bloated Security Suites doing double duty on top of Windows firewall,
Defender, etc.

EW
 
A

Andy

Frank said:
Didn't you realize that the hardware requirements for Vista are higher
than for XP, especially with implementation of DX-10? Or did you rely on
your computer supplier to correctly build your computer to fully run all
the feature of Vista?
Frank

erm you would think you could leave it up to a huge firm like Dell to put
the correct amount of RAM inside their new PC's to run Vista basic even at
entry level PC - I myself think that as standard entry level they should put
minimum 1gb RAM on their entry level PC's as standard but then that will
have a little adjustment to the budget price - mind you at 36.00 euro extra
that's not much more on top. - hopefully they will wake up to the fact soon
that even vista basic should have min 1gb of RAM (especially as the budget
dell's have onboard shared graphics)

Andy.
 
F

Frank

Andy said:
erm you would think you could leave it up to a huge firm like Dell to put
the correct amount of RAM inside their new PC's to run Vista basic even at
entry level PC - I myself think that as standard entry level they should put
minimum 1gb RAM on their entry level PC's as standard but then that will
have a little adjustment to the budget price - mind you at 36.00 euro extra
that's not much more on top. - hopefully they will wake up to the fact soon
that even vista basic should have min 1gb of RAM (especially as the budget
dell's have onboard shared graphics)

Andy.
Yeah it's unbelievable that a company as big as Dell® would sell a
computer that they list as "Vista capable" and only put 512RAM in it. I
don't even run old Celeron's on BX boards with that little amount of RAM.
Frank
 
T

Travis King

Add a gig module to that computer. I have 1.5GB on Vista Home Premium
running Aero and it only occasionally goes above 50% usage, and never goes
above 55% usage. This is when playing music in WMP, pictures in Microsoft
Digital Image, Adobe Photoshop Elements with some basic picture editing -
not real advanced, e-mail, web browser, and three or four explorer windows
open all at the same time. Normally, my RAM usage is between 38% and 46%.
With 512MB of RAM, you're probably using between 70% and 80% of your RAM
just sitting on the desktop, and as soon as you open anything, it goes even
higher.
 
R

Roy Coorne

Travis said:
Add a gig module to that computer. I have 1.5GB on Vista Home Premium
running Aero and it only occasionally goes above 50% usage, and never
goes above 55% usage.

55% of 1536 MB being 844.8 MB, you could well do with 1 GB RAM!
This is when playing music in WMP, pictures in
Microsoft Digital Image, Adobe Photoshop Elements with some basic
picture editing - not real advanced, e-mail, web browser, and three or
four explorer windows open all at the same time. Normally, my RAM usage
is between 38% and 46%. With 512MB of RAM, you're probably using between
70% and 80% of your RAM just sitting on the desktop, and as soon as you
open anything, it goes even higher.

1.5 GB RAM is more comfortable for 3D applications like Google Earth
with 3D activated or Virtual 3D.

Roy
 

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