Vista Activation

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Martin Racette

Hi,

Early after setting up my desktop computer, I was able to purchase 2 Home
Premium licence from Microsoft (since I had bought Ultimate full retail), I
installed one on my laptop, the problem is that frequently when I reboot I
get a message telling me that the Windows is NOT activated and I have to
re-activate it.

Why is it doing this the version is perfectly legal
 
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Alias

Martin said:
Hi,

Early after setting up my desktop computer, I was able to purchase 2
Home Premium licence from Microsoft (since I had bought Ultimate full
retail), I installed one on my laptop, the problem is that frequently
when I reboot I get a message telling me that the Windows is NOT
activated and I have to re-activate it.

Why is it doing this the version is perfectly legal

More proof that activation only inconveniences paying customers and does
nothing to stop real piracy.

When will Microsoft learn, when it's out of business?

Martin, why don't you just use an open source operating system like
Ubuntu? It's free and can be loaded on as many computers as you like.
Check it out at www.ubuntu.com

Alias
 
M

Martin Racette

A few reasons

1) Linux doesn't run well on a laptop

2) The application that I need to run will not run in Linux

Don't get me wrong I know what Linux is, It is powerfull, but right now it
is still lacking and lagging behind Windows
 
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Alias

Martin said:
A few reasons

1) Linux doesn't run well on a laptop

Have you tried running Ubuntu 7.04 on the laptop?
2) The application that I need to run will not run in Linux

And what application is that?
Don't get me wrong I know what Linux is, It is powerfull, but right now
it is still lacking and lagging behind Windows

Yeah, it doesn't have the wonderful activation/ genuine advantage
experience and never will.

Alias
 
R

Richard Urban

How did that even begin to help the original poster?

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
R

Richard Urban

How often is "frequently"?

Some Windows updates may cause this but it will happen only once.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Alias

Richard said:
How did that even begin to help the original poster?

I wrote, and I quote:

"Martin, why don't you just use an open source operating system like
Ubuntu? It's free and can be loaded on as many computers as you like.
Check it out at www.ubuntu.com"

Do you also have a reading comprehension problem like Justin?

Alias
 
R

Richard Urban

Only a very small part of 1% of people who have problems would consider that
as help. They want their problem fixed. They don't want to buy a Chevy
because their Ford has a flat!

Time to get serious here Alias. Either hang out in the Windows XP news
groups, because you say you still use that, or play on the Ubuntu forums.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Alias

Richard said:
Only a very small part of 1% of people who have problems would consider
that as help. They want their problem fixed. They don't want to buy a
Chevy because their Ford has a flat!
False.


Time to get serious here Alias. Either hang out in the Windows XP news
groups, because you say you still use that, or play on the Ubuntu forums.

No.

Alias
 
A

Alias

Richard said:
How often is "frequently"?

Some Windows updates may cause this but it will happen only once.

"How did that even begin to help the original poster?"
 
R

Richard Urban

By asking for further information in an attempt to assist him in solving his
immediate problem - unlike what you are known to do.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Nina DiBoy

Martin said:
A few reasons

1) Linux doesn't run well on a laptop

2) The application that I need to run will not run in Linux

Don't get me wrong I know what Linux is, It is powerfull, but right now
it is still lacking and lagging behind Windows

While linux isn't always the answer for everything and everyone
(although I highly recommend giving it a try, it works wonderfully for
ma and many people I know), It's not full of buggy DRM which is what is
haunting you in windows right now. Call up the MS activation hotline,
and be aware of your privacy and your rights. You only need to give
them the mandatory information when calling in. Nothing else is any of
their business:

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_facts.mspx

Mandatory Product Activation Data

* The Installation ID is unique to each product and comprises two
components:

1. Product ID. Unique to the product key used during installation
2. Hardware hash. Non-unique representation of the PC

* The country in which the product is being installed (for Office
XP and Office XP family products only)

Good luck.

Absolutely right!

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post
in any
of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.
That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
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Alias

Richard said:
By asking for further information in an attempt to assist him in solving
his immediate problem - unlike what you are known to do.

Sure. You haven't a clue and can't help him and you won't. Ubuntu will
*definitely* help him with his activation problems. So much so, he will
*never* have activation problems again.

Alias
 
R

Richard Urban

So your advice is to throw away $200 to $300 - American? Plus many, if not
all of the special programs he has accumulated over the years. Plus the fact
that he will have to "transition" to Ubuntu (how long have you been doing
that now? By your own statements a couple of months). That's real
productive!

That sounds like bum advice to me.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Guest

....and he also wouldn't be able to run the application he needs to run, like
he stated a long time ago. If I may quote your earlier post, "Do you also
have a reading comprehension problem like Justin?"

I've tried Ubuntu and like it, but it is not the be-all, end-all of
operating systems. If you like it, too, that's great! Even so, your obvious
bias even began to annoy me just reading through this post. Martin wanted
help for the 3 copies of Windows that he bought, not an advertisement for a
competing product.

All the best,

Eric
 
M

Martin Racette

Since mid-February, it happened at least 3 times now

BTW. Thank for the help, I do not know what Ubuntu has anything to do with
this problem
 
M

mikeyhsd

all fresh install require activation.



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Hi,

Early after setting up my desktop computer, I was able to purchase 2 Home
Premium licence from Microsoft (since I had bought Ultimate full retail), I
installed one on my laptop, the problem is that frequently when I reboot I
get a message telling me that the Windows is NOT activated and I have to
re-activate it.

Why is it doing this the version is perfectly legal
 
A

Alias

Richard said:
So your advice is to throw away $200 to $300 - American? Plus many, if
not all of the special programs he has accumulated over the years. Plus
the fact that he will have to "transition" to Ubuntu (how long have you
been doing that now? By your own statements a couple of months). That's
real productive!

That sounds like bum advice to me.

Yeah? I have yet to see a Windows solution from you. He can fight with
the activation problem now and in the future or be done with it forever.
So can you.

Alias
 
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Alias

Richard said:
So your advice is to throw away $200 to $300 - American?

No, he can sell the software to someone like you.
Plus many, if
not all of the special programs he has accumulated over the years.

No, he can sell the software to someone like you.
Plus
the fact that he will have to "transition" to Ubuntu (how long have you
been doing that now? By your own statements a couple of months). That's
real productive!

I've had Ubuntu being productive for me for some time now. I guess you
think that fighting with activation is a productive thing.
That sounds like bum advice to me.

Of course it does; what MS tech wants people to run an OS that doesn't
need fixing
all the time?

Alias
 
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DanS

So your advice is to throw away $200 to $300 - American? Plus many, if
not all of the special programs he has accumulated over the years.
Plus the fact that he will have to "transition" to Ubuntu (how long
have you been doing that now? By your own statements a couple of
months). That's real productive!

I too have been pondering the thoughts of some Linux distribution.

And that is the question...what about my software. And the I think about
what I do with my PC. Do I do a lot of things that I can't find a Linux
equivalent of. For the past year, not really.

The most Windows specific thing I do is some hobbyist programming stuff.
Other than that, maybe a sprinkle of work at home, which would most
likely be schematic capture or PCB design, of which, the s/w I use I know
does not come in a *nix flavor.

Either of those, would run adequately in a VM. Parallels seems to be
becoming popular for the Linux crowd. So if the 2 to $300's 'thrown
away' for was only $50 for Parallels instead and your existing XP
license, assuming it's retail, that's not a bad deal.

http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/

To further that, there is the Wine project, a Windows compatible API for
Linux that allows you to run many Windows applications natively.

http://www.winehq.org

Wine can also use the Windows DLL's when available. Of course, every
Windows program will not work, probably the older the app the better. So
many of those apps that were acquired 'over the years' would work.....an
assumption.

There's also WinLIb, which can take Windows source code and compile it
for Linux. My guess is it would be used mainly for open-source Windows
apps. Again, not fool proof.

But I agree, for the average user, Linux is not the answer, right now,
and maybe not for years to come, or ever, but it is a viable alternative
for some people.

Unfortunately, *usually* not for the average user that comes here looking
for help.

As a tech person myself, it seems interesting, and doable. I just haven't
taken the plunge yet. When I finally do, I'm HOPING it can be the whole
deal or nothing. What's the sense of HAVING to dual-boot Linux and
Windows.


And while it's true that MS dominates the OS market, we all know that was
because of the early OEM deals that force Windows upon everyone, not
necessarily that it is the best.

Now what if big OEM deals were cut with IBM instead of MS ? We could have
all been here slamming IBM instead of MS. Things may have turned out
totally different. The big difference there was IBM had a stake in the
hardware side too, not just the s/w side. If OS2 was THE desktop OS now,
it might have been more like apple, and be much more of a closed
architecture (If it wasn't to late after the IBM clone deals made back in
the day.)

OS2 Warp was in many ways better than Windows95, but Windows won out.
(And yes I know OS2 Warp originally came from a MS/IBM joint venture that
went sour.) It just didn't take off.

VHS vs BetaMax, as we all know the only reason VHS won was because you
had twice the recording time on a standard tape. BetaMax was superior in
picture quality over VHS.
 

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