Using regular Dye ink instead of Durabrite pigment ink (Espson D120related)

[Hueyduck]

Hi everyone,

I just bought an Epson D120.
My use of it is: office printing (black), and occasionnal photo printing
on photo paper.

I read a little bit about the difference between Pigmented ink such as
DuraBrite (the ink that comes with original D120 cartridges).

I plan to buy spongeless refillable cartridges.
They will be pre-filled with durabrite ink.

But the price of bulk durabrite ink is much higher than dye ink. So I
ask my the spongeless cartridge seller if I could use dye ink.
He said that I could, but that I shouldn't expect the same durability
and colour quality of my photo prints. This is ok with me.

But has any of you tested this (dye ink with D120) ? Furthermore, I
would be filling with Dye ink a cartridge that was once filled with
Durabrite. Isn't this mix going to be a problem?
I'd like to hear from your experiences.

Thanks for reading.


Huey

 

[measekite]

Hi everyone,

I just bought an Epson D120.
My use of it is: office printing (black), and occasionnal photo
printing on photo paper.

I read a little bit about the difference between Pigmented ink such as
DuraBrite (the ink that comes with original D120 cartridges).

I plan to buy spongeless refillable cartridges.
They will be pre-filled with durabrite ink.

But the price of bulk durabrite ink is much higher than dye ink. So I
ask my the spongeless cartridge seller if I could use dye ink.
He said that I could, but that I shouldn't expect the same durability
and colour quality of my photo prints. This is ok with me.

But has any of you tested this (dye ink with D120) ? Furthermore, I
would be filling with Dye ink a cartridge that was once filled with
Durabrite. Isn't this mix going to be a problem?
I'd like to hear from your experiences.

Thanks for reading.


Huey

Try following Epson's recommendation. They designed the printer to use
Epson Durabrite ink.

 

[Hueyduck]

plonk

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Epson printers basically use the same head design whether they use
pigment or dye colorant inks. The main differences are in the firmware
(which determines how often the heads are run through cleaning cycles,
how much ink is used, etc) and some software issues which have been
related to the how the colorants react to different paper types.

The cartridges may or may not be different. Pigment inks usually also
use a resin ink base meaning they need to be better protected from air
and oxygen. Pigment ink cartridges tend to be without sponges, but with
sophisticated air exchange systems but dye inks aren't as critical.

Durabrite inks are more clog prone than dye inks, so using dye inks will
probably help to keep the printer heads running better. Yes, the
pigment inks are more Durable overall, and waterproof, they also give a
sharper image on plain (bond) paper.

If possible I would avoid mixing the inks in the cartridge. Although
Epson dye inks and pigment inks all use the same solvents, they differ
enough to potentially lessen the value of the output.


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[Hueyduck]

Arthur Entlich a écrit :

Durabrite inks are more clog prone than dye inks, so using dye inks will
probably help to keep the printer heads running better. Yes, the
pigment inks are more Durable overall, and waterproof, they also give a
sharper image on plain (bond) paper.

Indeed, they do. I was quite astonished by the quality of the print.
But I really don't require this quality.

If possible I would avoid mixing the inks in the cartridge. Although
Epson dye inks and pigment inks all use the same solvents, they differ
enough to potentially lessen the value of the output.

I might try and buy empty cartridges, then.
My concern was more that mixing inks could damage the printer itself.
Also I didn't know if a dye ink would work flawlessly with this printer
(D120) without damaging it.

So , thanks for your answers.

Huey

 

[Jan Alter]

Arthur Entlich a écrit :


Indeed, they do. I was quite astonished by the quality of the print.
But I really don't require this quality.

I might try and buy empty cartridges, then.
My concern was more that mixing inks could damage the printer itself.
Also I didn't know if a dye ink would work flawlessly with this printer
(D120) without damaging it.

So , thanks for your answers.

Huey

When switching from pigment to dye base with Epson C84 and C88 printers
I had no problems so I would have little anxiety to even purging the heads
if you happen to use the OEM cartridges and then start with the spongeless
dyebase ones.

 

[Hueyduck]

Jan Alter a écrit :

When switching from pigment to dye base with Epson C84 and C88 printers
I had no problems so I would have little anxiety to even purging the heads
if you happen to use the OEM cartridges and then start with the spongeless
dyebase ones.

Thanks you Jan, this is quite reassuring to read that it caused you no
trouble.

Huey

 

[measekite]

Arthur Entlich a écrit :


Indeed, they do. I was quite astonished by the quality of the print.
But I really don't require this quality.

Most people that use crap ink do not require quality. AND IT SEEMS THEY
NEVER GET IT.

I might try and buy empty cartridges, then.
My concern was more that mixing inks could damage the printer itself.
Also I didn't know if a dye ink would work flawlessly with this
printer (D120) without damaging it.

If you are using crap ink then the printer is NOT working flawlessly.

 

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Most people that use crap ink do not require quality. AND IT SEEMS THEY
NEVER GET IT.

hehehe...I bet an oem ink drinking austrian fascist bigoted atheist like
you wishes he had a real brain!...LOL!