Updated: Windows Defender to Version 1.1.1593.0

[Guest]

Date Published: 11/8/2006

Windows® Defender:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e7-da2b-4a6a-afa4-f7f14e605a0d&DisplayLang=en

Windows® Defender x64:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...14-6FFE-4FAD-8CA5-74F236E9283B&displaylang=en

Quote:

This is the most current release of Windows Defender. If Windows Defender
informed you that an update is available, you are running an older version.
We encourage you to upgrade to this version. You can check your version of
Windows Defender by clicking the down arrow next to the help icon and
choosing ‘About Windows Defender’.

Note: If you have version 1.1.1592.0, you must first manually uninstall
Windows Defender before you can install this newer version. To configure or
remove the existing version, use Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel.

 

[Milhouse Van Houten]

Note: If you have version 1.1.1592.0, you must first manually uninstall
Windows Defender before you can install this newer version. To configure
or
remove the existing version, use Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel.

Say what? Surely this can't be right. And what happens if (when) it's
pushed via WU?

 

[Dave M]

Oh boy, I guess I get another chance to customize all my "Do not scan these
files or locations" as well as reset all the other options... Say
Microsoft, this is getting a little old you know, having gone through that
process two weeks ago with the so called 1592 "Final" overlay of the Beta
in place. Perhaps the upgrade path for the next preliminary "Final" should
include the ability to save prior options... whadda you think? Hey,
looking at the bright side... this time at least I know that it's coming.

But as WD is now a supported product:
Product ID: 81664-821-6468981-04232

How about telling us what's being changed, instead of letting us guess as
we've been doing throughout the unsupported Betas for almost 2 years...

 

[Guest]

I'm not sure if I understand your question. This is not an engine or
signature update, and I'm not sure if Windows update will offer an update to
the program itself, as I've never seen anything on WU but signature/engine
updates. Anyway, i guess you could wait and see. I un-installed version
1.1.1592.0 and installed this version without a problem, all in about 10
minutes, based on "We encourage you to upgrade to this version", plus the
fact that they took pains to tell you how to uninstall 1.1.1592.0. Even if
it should ever be offered on Windows Update, it would be like downloading
Internet Explorer 7 or .NET Framework 3.0: getting the program from Windows
Download Center now isn't less legitimate than getting it from Windows Update
later. As to why this version is an improvement, who knows (no new release
notes, as of yet).

Dean

 

[Randy Knobloch]

Oh boy, I guess I get another chance to customize all my "Do not scan these files or
locations" as well as reset all the other options... Say Microsoft, this is getting a
little old you know, having gone through that process two weeks ago with the so called
1592 "Final" overlay of the Beta in place. Perhaps the upgrade path for the next
preliminary "Final" should include the ability to save prior options... whadda you
think? Hey, looking at the bright side... this time at least I know that it's coming.

But as WD is now a supported product:
Product ID: 81664-821-6468981-04232

How about telling us what's being changed, instead of letting us guess as we've been
doing throughout the unsupported Betas for almost 2 years...

Dave, MS read these threads, your comments will be noted.
Thanks for the feedback.

Randy

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[Guest]

All went ok, nice new Defender interactive icon.

I'm not sure if I understand your question. This is not an engine or
signature update, and I'm not sure if Windows update will offer an update to
the program itself, as I've never seen anything on WU but signature/engine
updates. Anyway, i guess you could wait and see. I un-installed version
1.1.1592.0 and installed this version without a problem, all in about 10
minutes, based on "We encourage you to upgrade to this version", plus the
fact that they took pains to tell you how to uninstall 1.1.1592.0. Even if
it should ever be offered on Windows Update, it would be like downloading
Internet Explorer 7 or .NET Framework 3.0: getting the program from Windows
Download Center now isn't less legitimate than getting it from Windows Update
later. As to why this version is an improvement, who knows (no new release
notes, as of yet).

Dean

 

[Guest]

The new install of 1.1.1593.0 went well, I turned all antispyware- virus and
most programs in system tray off. Followed the directions in the
threads,(minimized) Announcement and went to Add/Remove to remove the older
version. You can't remove older version with Discussions in Announcements
open, I was told to close announcements to remove Defender. Other than that
small bump everything went fine. All who posted Thank you.

 

[Guest]

Note: If you have version 1.1.1592.0, you must first manually uninstall
Windows Defender before you can install this newer version. To configure or
remove the existing version, use Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel.

Can I just get this straight? After months of finding ways around the crazy
foibles of beta 2, we finally get a final version two weeks ago, - except
that it isn't a final version, because this new one is the 'real' final
version? So I should now ditch the 1592 version (downloaded but not yet
installed) and download 1593 instead? Is that it?

I still have version 1347, and have received no notification of any kind
from Defender itself that there's any need for me to do anything except keep
downloading the updates.

How on earth is any ordinary human being who doesn't check in here every day
supposed to get their head round all these changes? Or even know that a
non-beta version exists?

 

[kes]

Can I just get this straight? After months of finding ways around
the crazy
foibles of beta 2, we finally get a final version two weeks ago, -
except
that it isn't a final version, because this new one is the 'real'
final
version? So I should now ditch the 1592 version (downloaded but not
yet
installed) and download 1593 instead? Is that it?

Lucky you. Some of us have installed it, but now have to uninstall...



<snip>

 

[Milhouse Van Houten]

Can I just get this straight? After months of finding ways around the
crazy
foibles of beta 2, we finally get a final version two weeks ago, - except
that it isn't a final version, because this new one is the 'real' final
version? So I should now ditch the 1592 version (downloaded but not yet
installed) and download 1593 instead? Is that it?

I still have version 1347, and have received no notification of any kind
from Defender itself that there's any need for me to do anything except
keep
downloading the updates.

How on earth is any ordinary human being who doesn't check in here every
day
supposed to get their head round all these changes? Or even know that a
non-beta version exists?

But 1592 was a non-beta version, so what is their excuse, exactly, for it
needing to be uninstalled before upgrading to the next non-beta version?

Is this going to be the way it is, or is this some exceptional case?

The only time an uninstall should be required is if you're using a beta
version. And *maybe* if you're upgrading to a major new version, such as
2.0, but even that's questionable.

A minor point release though? Absolutely not.

 

[Guest]

Agreed. Most well written user friendly applications these days give you that
option as part of the uninstall/install process i.e. If you are uninstalling,
those settings can be preserved for the next install or conversely, if
installing over the top you are asked the question as part of the
installation process. What about it MS?

Incidentally. I would like to add. On my system, when adding exceptions
under Tools>Options>Advanced Options>Do not scan these Files or Locations.
You can browse to the folder but not the file you may want WD to ignore. If
the Dialog box mentions Files. Why not provide the option to browse to the
file?

Stu

 

[Guest]

Boy, you're asking some tricky questions, for which I have no answer. To add
to the trickiness, the installer for version 1.1.1592.0 automatically removes
the Beta version, while the installer for version 1.1.1593.0, apparently does
not remove 1.1.1592.0, but must be done manually through Add/Remove programs.
As to why the Beta 2 is not informing you that an upgrade is available, this
seems to run counter to what is stated on the "Frequently asked questions
about Windows Defender" page:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/about/faq.mspx

Quote:
Upgrading to Windows Defender

Q. How do I get the latest version of Windows Defender?
A. If you installed Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) prior to the release of
Windows Defender, you will receive a software notification when a new version
is available. To download a copy, go to Microsoft Download Center.


Too, on the "Upgrade to Windows Defender" page, it says:


Quote:
Note: If you already have Windows Defender (Beta 2) or Windows AntiSpyware
(Beta) installed on your computer, you might see a dialog box that notifies
you that the program will expire. You can follow the instructions in the
dialog box to download and install Windows Defender.

If you already have Windows Defender (Beta 2) or Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
installed on your computer, Windows Defender automatically removes Windows
Defender (Beta 2) and Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) for you.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/support/howto/checkversion.mspx


It may be that you don't receive notification, i.e., the program doesn't
check for an update, until the Beta version's expiration date is met. I
can't check this theory, because I don't have the Beta anymore. As to the
Final Version being Final, I assume it will be periodically updated, even
though it's out of Beta. Hopefully, this latest version has a "new and
improved" notifier, maybe...

Dean

 

[Guest]

So, My question is should this be considered Gamma 2 or Delta 1

I guess it depends on how much has changed.
I think I'll refer to it as Gamma 2 for the moment (WD-G2)

?
Tim
Alphas and Betas and Gammas, Oh My!

 

[Guest]

Hello


how can i see wich version i must download x64 or the other please ?

thanks

 

[Guest]

Benoit,

Most people are using the the 32 bit version of Windows and would use the
first link.
The odds are against your having the 64 bit version and not knowing it.

?
Tim
Geek w/o Portfolio
Alphas and Betas and Gammas, Oh My!

 

[Dave M]

Well Tim, the download size increased by 3K out of the 5Meg total size for
1592... That coupled with the single digit increment in version numbers,
leads me to think that we shouldn't expect miracles from this new upgrade
to 1593. Still, it would be beneficial for a change log to accompany the
RELEASED product like any other software from even the smallest of
developers. This is hardly what I'd expect from the world's largest...
let's leave it at that.

 

[Fat Kev]

How on earth is any ordinary human being who doesn't check in here every day
supposed to get their head round all these changes? Or even know that a
non-beta version exists?

Ordinary human is not supposed to know anything as M$ isn't keen to
support a product that produces no revenue!.

Why not earth updates/upgrades can't be installed without uninstalling the old
version?

Personally, I have come to the conlusion that this product is a complete
failure. It could well be a spyware itself to inform M$ whether or not
we are using licensed products!!!

We haven't heard it all so watch the space!!

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

Best to push out an uninstall first.

--

Say what? Surely this can't be right. And what happens if (when) it's
pushed via WU?

 

[Bill Sanderson MVP]

Alan--they will notify users of the beta versions in a very clear way
eventually. For now, I guess we have graduated from "beta testers" to
"early adopters" and it isn't real easy to see the difference.

--

 

[Robin]

you know it still doesn't save all your history.
When it uninstalls there should be a button you can press to save the
history so when you install a new version the history stays.
Also now you have to start all over with permitting stuff again. it should
remember that too

robin