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Frank
I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
What a piece of crap!
Frank
can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
What a piece of crap!
Frank
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Guest
Join the club, I upgrade my computer to high-end everything except the 3 year
old 3400+ AMD64 processor.
I go to install Fedora Linux and it tells me that the graphics card is not
supported. I go on to ATI's website and it doesn't have drivers for my
graphics card in Linux 32 or 64 bit form. Oh, my graphics card is ATI's
current top of the line X1950 Pro.
old 3400+ AMD64 processor.
I go to install Fedora Linux and it tells me that the graphics card is not
supported. I go on to ATI's website and it doesn't have drivers for my
graphics card in Linux 32 or 64 bit form. Oh, my graphics card is ATI's
current top of the line X1950 Pro.
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Frank Bright
(FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread)
All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.
At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then as
I poked
around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.
I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but I
have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the Linux
stuff as there
is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
wireless
didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
poking around.
Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect (and
maybe
the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control. And
while
there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux disciples
to go around
peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
Free!"
It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just go
into the Bios
and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.
Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu and
I have
2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
partition, and I will say
the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I was
telling Ubuntu which
partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished the
install.
As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy, but we
look at our screens
a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
graphic interface.
I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better looking
desktop graphics.
It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.
Thanks, Frank Bright
All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.
At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then as
I poked
around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.
I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but I
have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the Linux
stuff as there
is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
wireless
didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
poking around.
Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect (and
maybe
the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control. And
while
there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux disciples
to go around
peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
Free!"
It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just go
into the Bios
and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.
Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu and
I have
2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
partition, and I will say
the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I was
telling Ubuntu which
partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished the
install.
As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy, but we
look at our screens
a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
graphic interface.
I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better looking
desktop graphics.
It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.
Thanks, Frank Bright
G
Guest
You could run it under Vista inside Virtual PC 2007, being that its free.
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ray
I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
What a piece of crap!
Frank
That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
crap.
F
Frank
Frank said:(FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread)
All the recent discussions about Ubuntu had gotten me curious,
so 2 nights ago, I booted from an Ubuntu CD to see what it's like.
At first I did get a thrill simply running Linux, just because I had
never done it before (I'm a real Non-techie when it comes to code), then
as I poked
around, I saw that the interface was kind of bland and boring.
I myself have nothing against Linux (nor Bill Gates for that matter), but I
have come to the conclusion that there is just as much hype around the
Linux stuff as there
is around anything else in the tech world. For instance, right away, my
wireless
didn't work, but I didn't spend too much time on it either. I was mainly
poking around.
Linux does take time to learn, and I sense that the open source aspect
(and maybe
the price as well) give people who use Linux more of a sense of control.
And while
there is nothing wrong with that, I do think it's wrong for Linux
disciples to go around
peddling this as if it were a simple switch over - "Oh, use Ubuntu! It's
Free!"
It's like saying to someone who is clearly not computer savvy, "Oh, just
go into the Bios
and make these changes and you'll be fine!" It's very misguided.
Now, I have Vista on this laptop upon which I was tinkering with Ubuntu
and I have
2 partitions on the hard drive. I did try to install Ubuntu on the 2nd
partition, and I will say
the install is fairly easy, but even here, I got to the point where I
was telling Ubuntu which
partition to install upon and I hit a block there, so I never finished
the install.
As I said in another post, Vista may have a lot of graphic eye candy,
but we look at our screens
a lot when we're at a computer, so it's worth it to have a nice looking
graphic interface.
I applaud Vista for up-ing the bar when it comes to making better
looking desktop graphics.
It's long overdue. Here is where Vista clearly surpases the Mac.
Thanks, Frank Bright
Well at least you got it to install (well sort of). I tried but I didn't
get anywhere with it.
Frank (the other one)
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Frank
ray said:That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
crap.
So how did you get ubuntu to install using your Matrox P750 video card?
Frank
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Alias
Frank said:(FYI, I'm Frank Bright, a different 'Frank' from the author of this thread) so I never finished
the install.
Yet you comment on it like you did.
Alias
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Alias
Frank said:I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
What a piece of crap!
Frank
Vista has problems with video cards too. How come you're not calling
Vista a piece of crap? Maybe, like Justin, you need an eight year old to
help you install Ubuntu.
Alias
A
Alias
Frank said:So how did you get ubuntu to install using your Matrox P750 video card?
Frank
Why would he use a piece of crap? Try an ATI card.
Alias
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Alfred Kaufmann
You could run it under Vista inside Virtual PC 2007, being that its free.
If you add the cost of the Vista anytime upgrade to run Virtual PC
2007 to run the free Ubuntu... is that really free? You just end up
paying more to MS and you still have no guarantee that Ubuntu will
work on your virtual pc.
Al
R
ray
So how did you get ubuntu to install using your Matrox P750 video card?
Frank
There are approximately 369 other Linux distributions available. Any
decent video card will work with the vesa driver for starters. You can
fiddle later.
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Dustin Harper
Good post. While I really like Ubuntu, I'm also a geek. I like to play
around with it. For a real Linux challenge, try Gentoo. You can customize it
to exactly how you want it, but you need to know what you are doing. Linux
can look awesome, but you have to do your homework and be somewhat of a
geek.
Vista has a much smaller learning curve.
I love Vista, but I don't hate the other operating systems. Linux has it's
place, but I don't see it replacing Windows on the desktop any time soon. If
you think Vista has compatibility problems, try using a custom driver
developed from some guy in Germany that only offers the source code that
needs compiled with no support or docs on how to do it... That happens
frequently in Linux...
--
Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com
--
around with it. For a real Linux challenge, try Gentoo. You can customize it
to exactly how you want it, but you need to know what you are doing. Linux
can look awesome, but you have to do your homework and be somewhat of a
geek.
Vista has a much smaller learning curve.
I love Vista, but I don't hate the other operating systems. Linux has it's
place, but I don't see it replacing Windows on the desktop any time soon. If
you think Vista has compatibility problems, try using a custom driver
developed from some guy in Germany that only offers the source code that
needs compiled with no support or docs on how to do it... That happens
frequently in Linux...
--
Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com
--
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Richard Urban
A failed install process is enough to make people shy away from a product
that YOU recommend so entheusiastically.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
that YOU recommend so entheusiastically.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
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Roy Coorne
Frank said:I dl'ed version 7 of Urbuttoo and it won't install on my computer. It
can't recognize my Matrox P750 video card.
What a piece of crap!
Frank
You need a new pair of glasses - you can't even recognize the sequence
of letters "u b u n t u";-)
Maybe you wish to upgrade to a Millennium G550 or G400;-)
r O y
A
Alias
Richard said:A failed install process is enough to make people shy away from a
product that YOU recommend so entheusiastically.
When you say you tried to install it, I don't believe you. I think
you're just blowing hot air.
Alias
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Frank
Alias said:Vista has problems with video cards too. How come you're not calling
Vista a piece of crap? Maybe, like Justin, you need an eight year old to
help you install Ubuntu.
Alias
You can't possibly be as dumb as you sound. Or can you?
Frank
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Frank
ray said:That's been my general impression - the Matrox P750 is indeed a piece of
crap.
Calling Matrox P750 video card..."a piece of crap" does nothing in
helping to install unbuntu. You only show your ignorance and intolerance
for anything you either don't know about or have not used.
In fact this kind of response is identical in tone to those Vista
responses that the linux crowd have been railings against in this ng.
You and linux are no better than they are.
Frank
A
Alias
Frank said:You can't possibly be as dumb as you sound. Or can you?
Frank
What's "dumb" is you thinking that an ad hominem is the proper way to
debate the issues.
Alias
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Kurt Herman
Why would you have to upgrade Vista? Virtual PC 2007 installs and runs fine
in Basic and Premium.
Its just not "supported", but it runs just the same.
Kurt
in Basic and Premium.
Its just not "supported", but it runs just the same.
Kurt
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