David Candy wrote:
getridofseanJust get the error message from event viewer if you have to
post
getridofseanback. Windows will tell you what is erroring. Programs in
MSConfig
getridofseancan't cause Stop errors, at least not directly, though they
may use a
getridofseanfunction that triggers the stop error. Services can cause
Stop errors.
getridofsean
getridofseanFor speed reasons windows can't catch the full details of
every
getridofseanerror, but it has modes it can switch to where it can (but
it trades
getridofseanoff speed).
getridofsean
getridofseanFrom Help
getridofseanWe need error messages in full. If Write an event to the
system log
getridofseanis on then look in Event Viewer (type it in help). Most
people have
getridofseanit display the screen and write (you know a pen) down the
message.
getridofseanSee if they are all the same number and details. If Write
an event
getridofseanto the system log is on then look in Event Viewer (type it
in help).
getridofsean
getridofseanFrom Help
getridofsean
getridofseanTo specify what Windows does if the system stops
unexpectedly.
getridofsean
getridofseanYou must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
getridofseanAdministrators group in order to complete this procedure.
If your
getridofseancomputer is connected to a network, network policy settings
might
getridofseanalso prevent you from completing this procedure.
getridofsean
getridofsean 1.. Open System in Control Panel.
getridofsean 2.. On the Advanced tab, under Startup and Recovery, click
getridofseanSettings. 3.. Under System Failure, select the check
boxes that
getridofseancorrespond to the actions you want Windows to perform if a
Stop error
getridofseanoccurs: a.. Write an event to the system log specifies
that
getridofseanevent information will be recorded in the system log.
b.. Send
getridofseanan administrative alert specifies that your system
administrator will
getridofseanbe notified. c.. Automatically reboot specifies that
Windows
getridofseanwill automatically restart your computer. 4.. Under Write
getridofseanDebugging Information, choose the type of information you
want
getridofseanWindows to record when the system stops unexpectedly:
a.. Small
getridofseanMemory Dump records the smallest amount of information that
will help
getridofseanidentify the problem. This option requires a paging file of
at least
getridofsean2 MB on the boot volume of your computer and specifies that
Windows
getridofseanwill create a new file each time the system stops
unexpectedly. A
getridofseanhistory of these files is stored in the directory listed
under Small
getridofseanDump Directory. b.. Kernel Memory Dump records only
kernel
getridofseanmemory, which speeds up the process of recording
information in a log
getridofseanwhen the system stops unexpectedly. Depending on the amount
of RAM in
getridofseanyour computer, you must have 50 MB to 800 MB available for
the paging
getridofseanfile on the boot volume. The file is stored in the
directory listed
getridofseanunder Dump File. c.. Complete Memory Dump records the
entire
getridofseancontents of system memory when the system stops
unexpectedly. If you
getridofseanchoose this option you must have a paging file on the boot
volume
getridofseanlarge enough to hold all of the physical RAM plus one
megabyte (MB).
getridofseanThe file is stored in the directory listed under Dump File.
Notes
getridofsean
getridofsean a.. To open System, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then
getridofseandouble-click System. b.. You must have at least a 2-MB
paging file
getridofseanon the computer's boot volume if you select Write an event
to the
getridofseansystem log or Send an administrative alert. c.. If you
choose
getridofseaneither Kernel Memory Dump or Complete Memory Dump and
select the
getridofseanOverwrite any existing file check box, Windows always
writes to the
getridofseansame file name. To save individual dump files, clear the
Overwrite
getridofseanany existing file check box and change the file name after
each Stop
getridofseanerror. d.. You can save some memory if you clear the
Write an
getridofseanevent to the system log and Send an administrative alert
check boxes.
getridofseanThe memory saved depends on the computer, but typically
about 60 KB
getridofseanto 70 KB are required by these features. e.. If you
contact
getridofseanMicrosoft Product Support Services about a Stop error, they
might ask
getridofseanfor the system-memory dump file generated by the Write
Debugging
getridofseanInformation option. Related Topics
getridofsean
getridofsean
getridofseanWe want either the error message, AND if that doesn't have
enough
getridofseaninfo, a minidump file. And if that doesn't have enough info
we switch
getridofseaninto a driver debugging mode, and then do the above again.
Type
getridofseanverifier in Start Run and follow the wizard. This will do
two things.
getridofsean
getridofsean1. Be very strict with drivers and generate a stop error
whenever a
getridofseandriver misbehaves. 2. Some drivers are written to be buggy
and fast
getridofseanso they can win magazine benchmark competitions. If
verifier is
getridofseanturned on they may become well behaved and slower. That is
some
getridofseandrivers have two drivers in the file, one for magazines and
users and
getridofseanone for MS testing - what happens depend on how the driver
decides
getridofseanit's at an MS test lab (who only care about crashes) or on a
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message
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Thanks David, I may have isolated the problem,
by seeing the
getridofseangetridofseanmessage that a service called mrtrate service
failed to start due
getridofseangetridofseanto the following error: The system cannot
find the file
getridofseangetridofseanspecified. Then, I went out and did a search
for this condition;
getridofseangetridofseanit was apparently related to Quicken 2004
Deluxe which I've been
getridofseangetridofseanrunning for some time. There was a fix to
change a value in the
getridofseangetridofseanregistry for it after backing it up which I
did. Then, I rebooted
getridofseangetridofseanand the error did not reoccur.
getridofseangetridofsean What gets me is the erratic behavior of this
error. If this is the
getridofseangetridofseanreal culprit, then sometimes the system booted
into windows fine
getridofseangetridofseanthe first time, and other times, it stopped
with the sorry
getridofseangetridofseanmessage, and its various options for
continuing. I've been
getridofseangetridofseanscrewing with MSconfig options now probably for
a month, with
getridofseangetridofseanstill this intermittent situation.
getridofseangetridofsean I probably won't know for three or four days
for sure if this was
getridofseangetridofseanthe fix or not. I sure hope so after all this
effort.
getridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofsean Thanks again,
getridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofsean Bruce
getridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofsean "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
getridofseangetridofsean getridofseangetridofsean The error messages. Nothing else matters but
the error messages.
getridofseangetridofseanEvent Viewer should have the Stop error
involved.
getridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofsean --
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getridofseangetridofsean
in message
getridofseangetridofsean getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean None of the hardware components
are malfunctioning at all.. It
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseanjust gives that stupid screen at
bootup on a random, not
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseancontinuous basis. I have
experimented now for a month almost.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean I have gone into the device
manager and checked for hardware
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseanconflicts using
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean msinfo32 or whatever that is. It
did not show any conflicts.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseanAgain, this happens randomly at
bootup, and then the computer
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseanbehaves fine after it gets
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean into Windows.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean I would just like to figure out an
approach to solve the problem.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Any other ideas?
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Bruce
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean "Walter Clayton"
getridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean You're looking in the
wrong place.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean It's perfectly normal
for the system to decide not to load a
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseandriver if the
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean hardware doesn't need
the driver or some other function
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseandoesn't need the
driver.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Look to your hardware
first. Suspect, although not in any
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanparticular order,
power supply, memory, processor; don't rule
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanout other components
either.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean --
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Walter Clayton
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Any technology
distinguishable from magic is insufficiently
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanadvanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean "Bruce Roberson"
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanmessage
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean This is an
excerpt from the file ntbtlog.txt showing the
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseandrivers not
loaded. How can I figure how to eliminate these
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanspecific
problem areas. Once every two or three days, I get
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanthe screen
at bootup saying Windows faile to load normally,
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanand I get
to choose between using the "last known
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean good
configuration" or a normal windows load. Its a black
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanscreen with
white text etc. I figured out how to find the
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseanbootlog
file ntbtlog.txt, but now that I see the offending
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseandrivers, I
don't know what they are to know what to do to
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseankeep them
from being a problem.
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Here are
the offending lines:
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\lbrtfdc.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Sfloppy.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\i2omgmt.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Changer.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdaudio.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\processr.sys
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PCIDump.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mrtRate.SYS
getridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofseangetridofsean Did not
load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
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Seanie I'm laughing at you more and more with each post you make,
little
man. Keep up your standard of stupidity. It's possible you could be
less
clever ... though I'm not sure how. Why don't you demonstrate? haha