TIP - Save a failed download - TIP

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casey.o

If there is anything that pisses me off, it's when I'm downloading a
large file, and lose my internet connection when the file is almost
completed.

I found this on a website and it works. I was at a WIFI spot
downloading a rather large file about 230megs in size. The download was
at about 98% completed when I momentarily lost the WIFI signal. A
minute later I was reconnected, but the download had failed. Rather
than start the download all over, I found this tip.

In your download folder, there is a file named whatever the name of the
file is that you were downloading, with a .PART extension.
EX: filename.zip.part

1. Before doing anything else, copy this .PART file to another folder or
flash drive, or anywhere other than your download folder.

2. Delete the .PART file from your download folder.

3. Start your download over again.

4. As soon as it creates another .PART file in your download folder,
PAUSE the download. (For example, in Firefox, click on TOOLS /
DOWNLOADS inside that download box, there are the options to PAUSE or
STOP the download. Choose the PAUSE.

5. Go to your download folder, and delete the *new* .PART file.

6. Copy the old .PART file (the one that was almost complete) back to
your download folder.

7. Unpause (Resume) the download in your browser, and it will continue
from where it left off, when you got disconnected.

This works great, so I thought I'd share it.

My approx. 230 meg file was at about 221megs when I got disconnected.
To start over, would have taken about 20 minutes to download it over
again. (a rather slow WIFI connection). Doing the above steps, I
completed the download in about one minute.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>,
If there is anything that pisses me off, it's when I'm downloading a
large file, and lose my internet connection when the file is almost
completed.

I found this on a website and it works. I was at a WIFI spot
downloading a rather large file about 230megs in size. The download was
at about 98% completed when I momentarily lost the WIFI signal. A
minute later I was reconnected, but the download had failed. Rather
than start the download all over, I found this tip.

In your download folder, there is a file named whatever the name of the
file is that you were downloading, with a .PART extension.
EX: filename.zip.part

That _may_ be just a Firefox thing. (The name PART, I mean.)
1. Before doing anything else, copy this .PART file to another folder or
flash drive, or anywhere other than your download folder.

2. Delete the .PART file from your download folder.

3. Start your download over again.

4. As soon as it creates another .PART file in your download folder,
PAUSE the download. (For example, in Firefox, click on TOOLS /
DOWNLOADS inside that download box, there are the options to PAUSE or
STOP the download. Choose the PAUSE.

5. Go to your download folder, and delete the *new* .PART file.

6. Copy the old .PART file (the one that was almost complete) back to
your download folder.

7. Unpause (Resume) the download in your browser, and it will continue
from where it left off, when you got disconnected.

This works great, so I thought I'd share it.

I think it relies on the remote server supporting REGET (I think most do
these days, though).
[]
 
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Paul

J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>,
If there is anything that pisses me off, it's when I'm downloading a
large file, and lose my internet connection when the file is almost
completed.

I found this on a website and it works. I was at a WIFI spot
downloading a rather large file about 230megs in size. The download was
at about 98% completed when I momentarily lost the WIFI signal. A
minute later I was reconnected, but the download had failed. Rather
than start the download all over, I found this tip.

In your download folder, there is a file named whatever the name of the
file is that you were downloading, with a .PART extension.
EX: filename.zip.part

That _may_ be just a Firefox thing. (The name PART, I mean.)
1. Before doing anything else, copy this .PART file to another folder or
flash drive, or anywhere other than your download folder.

2. Delete the .PART file from your download folder.

3. Start your download over again.

4. As soon as it creates another .PART file in your download folder,
PAUSE the download. (For example, in Firefox, click on TOOLS /
DOWNLOADS inside that download box, there are the options to PAUSE or
STOP the download. Choose the PAUSE.

5. Go to your download folder, and delete the *new* .PART file.

6. Copy the old .PART file (the one that was almost complete) back to
your download folder.

7. Unpause (Resume) the download in your browser, and it will continue
from where it left off, when you got disconnected.

This works great, so I thought I'd share it.

I think it relies on the remote server supporting REGET (I think most do
these days, though).
[]

Some browser used to have that totally automated. In that, resuming
a failed download, the browser would notice the temporary file and would
add to it. What I don't understand, is why the automation was removed.
Do that many people change websites and download a thing with the same name ?

Paul
 
C

casey.o

Only usable *if* the site supports "resume" for their downloads. Not
all sites support resume. I'm sure you could find a download manager to
avoid having to do all the above manual work. The download manager will
take of resuming downloads (again, as long as the site also support
resume).

I don't use Firefox (have in the past) so I don't know if there is
already an add-on for it that lets you do resumed downloads (i.e., it
acts as a download manager). There are separate download managers you
can get to help with resuming of downloads.

I'm not familiar with the addon, nor am I aware of any sites that do not
allow this, but I'm sure there are some. Thyis works on FF 3.x on my
Win98 machine, and works on FF 8.x on my XP laptop. It also works in
K-Meleon (another Mozilla based browser).

What I dont understand, is as Firefox seems to have been taken over by
the bloat monster, and they come out with a new version damn near weekly
lately. Why they dont include something USEFUL like this is beyond me.

I've done replace the .part file several times. Most of them are when
I'm using "Download Helper" and addon to save video files from youtube.
When I download large videos, I've had the connection to WIFI fail
several times. Using the method I said, it work great for this. But
I've used it on a few other files and even some .PDF downloads.

I'm curious what others are using these days for browsers?
I'm fed up with the constant upgrades to FF (and they dont even have a
patch anymore, you have to download the whole damn thing over and over).
So, on my laptop with XP I just stick with FF8.x. But I'm finding
Seamonkey is what FF used to be. and it's mozilla based too. I kind of
like it. On in98, I'm stuck with FF3.x.

I'm not all that keen on IE, even though IE8 is much better than IE6. I
wont touch Chrome because of google using it to trace users, and then
there's Opera, which is the biggest piece of crap ever made. Opera has
caused my system to crash in Win95, 98, 2K and XP. Even caused Puppy
Linux to crash once. I wont touch it!
That about sums up all the browsers. Seamonkey, K-Meleon, and the old
Netscape are all Mozilla based.

Note, I have Netscape Gold 3.x installed. Thats really old, and
sometimes it will load new pages full of too many scripts without
problems.... I finally had to stop using K-Meleon, because there was a
script error almost every 2 or 3 minutes....

Personally, I think Java Script is going to be the ruin of the web.....
Everyone worries about viruses and malware. I think java script *IS* a
virus. It's the biggest cause of system lockups and other problems I've
ever encountered.
 
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casey.o

I think it relies on the remote server supporting REGET (I think most
do these days, though).
[]


Using IE10 or 11 helps a lot. Most of the time it restarts from where
it stopped unless the PART downloaded file is corrupt.

Another way is to pause the download every 10 minutes if downloading a
big file on a slow connection.

Then you must be running Windows 7 or 8. I might be wrong, but I
believe that IE8 is the limit for XP. (Is that right?)
 
C

casey.o

I think it relies on the remote server supporting REGET (I think most
do these days, though).
[]


Using IE10 or 11 helps a lot. Most of the time it restarts from where
it stopped unless the PART downloaded file is corrupt.

Another way is to pause the download every 10 minutes if downloading a
big file on a slow connection.

I forgot to mention. I have run across a really bizarre situation on a
few websites. This happens on dialup. I can start a download of lets
say 10megs. It will be downloading fine, but sometime during the
download, it just quits downloading and leaves an incomplete download in
my download folder (without the .PART at the end). Lets say that it
stopped at 25% (or 2.5megs in this example).

All I have to do is go back to the webpage and click on the DOWNLOAD
button again. The download starts back up, and continues from where it
left off. The weirdest part is that the download will show speeds up to
180bps when it restarts, then it creeps down to the normal speed, which
on dialup is usually around 4.5 to 5.5 bps for me. There is no way in
hell that I can get 180bps or even 50bps on dialup. What I think is
happening, is that the file is still downloading, and the data is saved
to cache. Why the download stops is beyond me. I think some sites just
dont function well with slow connections.

Anyhow, I've gotten used to a select few sites doing this goofy thing,
and just know to keep clicking the download button until the whole file
is downloaded. Not too long ago, I downloaded a file about 30megs in
size, and had to restart about 10 times. In the end, the file was
complete and worked fine. It's kind of annoying, but it gets the job
done.

Note:
[This happens using Win98, where I have a reliable internet connection].
Not using other OSs, which have caiused the "spiral of death" crap.
I'd be curious if anyone can explain this...... I'm almost thinking that
there is some script that limits the length of download time or
something... ????
 
G

Good Guy

I think it relies on the remote server supporting REGET (I think most
do these days, though).
[]


Using IE10 or 11 helps a lot. Most of the time it restarts from where
it stopped unless the PART downloaded file is corrupt.

Another way is to pause the download every 10 minutes if downloading a
big file on a slow connection.
 
R

RobertMacy

I think it relies on the remote server supporting REGET (I think most
do these days, though).
[]


Using IE10 or 11 helps a lot. Most of the time it restarts from where
it stopped unless the PART downloaded file is corrupt.

Another way is to pause the download every 10 minutes if downloading a
big file on a slow connection.

I use Opera 9.64 on Win98 through dial up, and even have the luxury of
pausing the download until another time and Opera 'pieces' it toegther.

However, as someone noted, the website MUST support ?? I've only found one
website so far that does not support a restart. That was a Russian website
and I was trying to download 100MB of tutorials zipped. Tried three times
and if ever gets stopped [which often happens on a dialup] cannot restart
MUST start over! ...never got the file.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>,
What I dont understand, is as Firefox seems to have been taken over by
the bloat monster, and they come out with a new version damn near weekly
lately. Why they dont include something USEFUL like this is beyond me.

Well, they unfortunately seem to have done away with the concept of the
major version update being when the number before the first dot changes,
instead changing that leading number very frequently (so you can't tell
when a major change _has_ happened; I believe the latest _big_ change
[to the "Australis" interface] is with version 29).
I've done replace the .part file several times. Most of them are when
I'm using "Download Helper" and addon to save video files from youtube.
When I download large videos, I've had the connection to WIFI fail
several times. Using the method I said, it work great for this. But
I've used it on a few other files and even some .PDF downloads.

I'm curious what others are using these days for browsers?
I'm fed up with the constant upgrades to FF (and they dont even have a
patch anymore, you have to download the whole damn thing over and over).
So, on my laptop with XP I just stick with FF8.x. But I'm finding

Well, I've stopped at 25.0.1. Eventually I guess I'll have to take a
"modern" browser, to deal with pages that are then modern; that may or
may not then be Firefox. For the moment, F25 (and occasionally IE8) do
most pages I want, and the few neither do I generally give up on.
Seamonkey is what FF used to be. and it's mozilla based too. I kind of
like it. On in98, I'm stuck with FF3.x.

For me, 2.x (I could never get KernelX to "play nice"). For the one site
I visit with my 98SElite machine, that works fine.
I'm not all that keen on IE, even though IE8 is much better than IE6. I

As you say. I use it as my fallback for when F won't.
wont touch Chrome because of google using it to trace users, and then

I haven't seen anyone give any advantage of Chrome that I could see me
wanting, though I've used it without problem on other people's
computers.
there's Opera, which is the biggest piece of crap ever made. Opera has
caused my system to crash in Win95, 98, 2K and XP. Even caused Puppy
Linux to crash once. I wont touch it!

I haven't tried it since it wasn't free, so can't comment.
That about sums up all the browsers. Seamonkey, K-Meleon, and the old
Netscape are all Mozilla based.

Note, I have Netscape Gold 3.x installed. Thats really old, and

I have N7 on my '9x machines (can't remember whether .1 or .2). Haven't
used it for years, but it used to work (-:!
sometimes it will load new pages full of too many scripts without
problems.... I finally had to stop using K-Meleon, because there was a
script error almost every 2 or 3 minutes....

Personally, I think Java Script is going to be the ruin of the web.....

It certainly contributes.
Everyone worries about viruses and malware. I think java script *IS* a
virus. It's the biggest cause of system lockups and other problems I've
ever encountered.
Well, it seems to me that it gets used for a lot more things than it
need be.
 
C

casey.o

Well, I've stopped at 25.0.1. Eventually I guess I'll have to take a
"modern" browser, to deal with pages that are then modern; that may or
may not then be Firefox. For the moment, F25 (and occasionally IE8) do
most pages I want, and the few neither do I generally give up on.

I have version 8 on my laptop (XP pro) nad it works fine at WIFI spots
I see no reason ot upgrade if it works.
For me, 2.x (I could never get KernelX to "play nice"). For the one site
I visit with my 98SElite machine, that works fine.

Kernel EX did allow me to upgrade to FF3.x, but while it claims to
operate up to FF8.x, it refuses to work properly for me.
I tried FF8 and some below that, such as FF5. I get too many browser
crashes. For awhile I had FF 3.x and FF 8.x installed on the same
computer. One conflicts with the other because the settings files cant
be separated (as far as I could figure out). I finally just removed all
versions of FF and all the settings, and started over by instralling the
last of the FF3.x series.
As you say. I use it as my fallback for when F won't.

Same here on my laptop, but in Win98, I actually removed IE6.
I haven't seen anyone give any advantage of Chrome that I could see me
wanting, though I've used it without problem on other people's
computers.


I haven't tried it since it wasn't free, so can't comment.

It's free again, but I recall trying it in back in the mid to late
1990's for the first time. That was either Win95 or Win 3.x. I cant
recall. I have tried it at least 5 more times since then on newer OSs.
Using newer versions on different computers. It's always been crash
prone. I've never had any other browser crash as often. I dont much
care for the look of it either. The last time I tried it (not too long
ago), and it crashed, I uninstalled it for the last time.

However, when I recently installed the Puppy Linux package, I found it
came with both Seamonkey and Opera. It defaults to open Opera. I was
actually shocked when it caused Linux to lock up and crash. I was
always told that linux is damn near uncrashable. I've never had it
crash for any other reason, but leave it to Opera to crash linux too.

I switched linux over to Seamonkey and while programs can be removed
from these packaged linux installs, I did not bother to figure out how
(I'm very new to linux). I just dont use Opera and that solves
that.....
I have N7 on my '9x machines (can't remember whether .1 or .2). Haven't
used it for years, but it used to work (-:!

I should check into that. I was not sure which versions worked in 9x.
Netscape was the first browser I used in Windows, and it's actually
where all the Mozilla based browsers originated. There was some other
browser I remember using in Win3.x and I cant remember the name of it,
but it was really poor..... Then I recall Slipknot. That was a dos
based browser when the internet first began. That actually worked
fairly well for it's time.....
It certainly contributes.

Turning it off seems to make web pages load much faster on dialup and
obviously eliminates many script errors. But most website wont work
properly anymore with it turned off. Sometimes you cant even click on a
link and get it to work.
Well, it seems to me that it gets used for a lot more things than it
need be.

Most definitely over used.....

And much if not most of that is for advertising.

Remember the old websites from the 90's, like the ones that everyone had
on Geocities. They never needed scripts. They worked well, and
provided text, pictures, and sound, What else is really needed?
I used to save the HTML content from those old sites, and would modify
them for offline use.

Take a look at the HTML files in modern websites and they are all
written in greek. They are huge, and there are scripts upon scripts
upon more scripts..... I really dont see the need. On sites which have
Flash videos, I can see a bit of need for scripts, but all of them are
like that now.

The worst websites these days are the ones from the News Media. CNN,
CBS, MSNBC, and even local tv stations. They are horrid. They cant be
loaded on an older browser at all. The formating becomes a disaster.
And loading them on dialup takes forever. I thought the whole reason
for posting the news was so people could see what was happening in the
world. That whole point seems to have vanished and the sites only work
for people with high speed internet with browsers that can handle all
that crap. It's just all bloat. Just yesterday I was looking for a
simple map that showed all the tornado touchdowns in the south. All I
was getting was videos and endless links. The whole point of putting
the news online has been lost in favor of what appears to be some sort
of competition to prove who can make the most bloated website....
I never did find that map. I got fed up and shut the computer off, and
waited till the tv weather report came on.
 
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casey.o

I think the whole point nowadays of putting anything on the Internet is to
make it glitzy (and thus attention grabbing), and generate revenue from ads.
And NOT to present the news or anything of substance (that's just
incidental, and coming along for the ride, like a lot of stuff on TV
nowadays). IOW - more fluff, and less *substance*. It's cheaper to
produce. Why do you think the news sites and newspapers (where still
available) are cutting journalists?

This is the reason I went back to getting the local newspaper. I can
just sit down and read it, rather than waste hours waiting for all the
crap to load on the net. Of course in my case, being in a rural area,
I'm just getting the local news. When it comes to the national and
world news, I just watch the news on tv. I dont even bother with the
news websites anymore. On dialup they just take to damn long to load,
and since they all are mostly based on videos now, I cant even watch
them. Even if I had high speed internet, these news sites are just too
bloated to get any use out of them. It's faster and easier to watch tv
or read a newspaper.
 

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