G
Guest
Most of memory is used without running more than task manager. I have about
40 processess listed. Why so many and which are needed to run my computer?
40 processess listed. Why so many and which are needed to run my computer?
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JS
It's not unusual as I have 34 processes, but then I also have some
unnecessary services shut down.
How much memory (ram) do you have?
JS
unnecessary services shut down.
How much memory (ram) do you have?
JS
G
Guest
physical memory is 522K, available 222K;
Kernel memory tota; 80K, paged 57 K, non paged 13 K
Kernel memory tota; 80K, paged 57 K, non paged 13 K
J
JS
My PC:
Physical memory is 523K, Available 170K, Cache 271
Kernel memory: Total 70K, Paged 52K, Nonpaged 18.5K
Note: The above numbers are with AV scan software that is currently running
in the background.
JS
Physical memory is 523K, Available 170K, Cache 271
Kernel memory: Total 70K, Paged 52K, Nonpaged 18.5K
Note: The above numbers are with AV scan software that is currently running
in the background.
JS
R
Ron Martell
embroiderer said:Most of memory is used without running more than task manager. I have about
40 processess listed. Why so many and which are needed to run my computer?
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
Good luck
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
U
Unknown
Don't you really mean 522 Megabytes?????
embroiderer said:physical memory is 522K, available 222K;
Kernel memory tota; 80K, paged 57 K, non paged 13 K
K
Ken Blake
embroiderer said:Most of memory is used without running more than task manager.
That's neither unusual nor a problem.
Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a counterproductive
desire. Windows is designed to use all, or nearly all, of your memory, all
the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is wasted memory. You paid
for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it wasted.
Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the time.
For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that part for
caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In this way Windows
keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
I
have about 40 processess listed. Why so many and which are needed to
run my computer?
40 is by no means a lot. Although there may be some you can turn off without
harm, my advice is to leave them alone. "Don't fix what ain't broke."
J
JS
Typo error, yes the numbers should be in Megabytes.
JS
JS
G
Guest
Thanks to all of your input.
Since physical memory should not be a problem. What about the Kernel Memory?
JS was using less on his system. 5 meg less.
Since physical memory should not be a problem. What about the Kernel Memory?
JS was using less on his system. 5 meg less.
J
Jim
Kernel memory is just an area of physical memory reserved for the operatingembroiderer said:Thanks to all of your input.
Since physical memory should not be a problem. What about the Kernel
Memory?
JS was using less on his system. 5 meg less.
system kernel.
The operating system allocates what it needs.
Jim
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Phil Weldon
'embroiderer' wrote:
| Thanks to all of your input.
|
| Since physical memory should not be a problem. What about the Kernel
Memory?
|
| JS was using less on his system. 5 meg less.
_____
Worrying about 5 MBytes of memory for a computer system using Windows XP is
counterproductive; it's less than one percent of your total memory, and only
about two percent of the reported available memory. If the system needs
more memory, it will allocate it to the processes that need it, and page out
(if necessary) the processes that don't. Forget about it or buy more
memory - your choice. However, if you DO buy more memory, then Windows XP
will try very hard to make use of all the additional memory you install.
Phil Weldon
| Thanks to all of your input.
|
| Since physical memory should not be a problem. What about the Kernel
Memory?
|
| JS was using less on his system. 5 meg less.
|
|
|
| "Ken Blake" wrote:
|
| > embroiderer wrote:
| >
| > > Most of memory is used without running more than task manager.
| >
| >
| > That's neither unusual nor a problem.
| >
| > Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
counterproductive
| > desire. Windows is designed to use all, or nearly all, of your memory,
all
| > the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is wasted memory. You
paid
| > for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it wasted.
| >
| > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
time.
| > For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that part
for
| > caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In this way
Windows
| > keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
| >
| > > I
| > > have about 40 processess listed. Why so many and which are needed to
| > > run my computer?
| >
| > 40 is by no means a lot. Although there may be some you can turn off
without
| > harm, my advice is to leave them alone. "Don't fix what ain't broke."
| >
| > --
| > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| > Please reply to the newsgroup
| >
| >
| >
| Thanks to all of your input.
|
| Since physical memory should not be a problem. What about the Kernel
Memory?
|
| JS was using less on his system. 5 meg less.
_____
Worrying about 5 MBytes of memory for a computer system using Windows XP is
counterproductive; it's less than one percent of your total memory, and only
about two percent of the reported available memory. If the system needs
more memory, it will allocate it to the processes that need it, and page out
(if necessary) the processes that don't. Forget about it or buy more
memory - your choice. However, if you DO buy more memory, then Windows XP
will try very hard to make use of all the additional memory you install.
Phil Weldon
| Thanks to all of your input.
|
| Since physical memory should not be a problem. What about the Kernel
Memory?
|
| JS was using less on his system. 5 meg less.
|
|
|
| "Ken Blake" wrote:
|
| > embroiderer wrote:
| >
| > > Most of memory is used without running more than task manager.
| >
| >
| > That's neither unusual nor a problem.
| >
| > Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a
counterproductive
| > desire. Windows is designed to use all, or nearly all, of your memory,
all
| > the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory is wasted memory. You
paid
| > for it all and shouldn't want to see any of it wasted.
| >
| > Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
time.
| > For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that part
for
| > caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In this way
Windows
| > keeps all your memory working for you all the time.
| >
| > > I
| > > have about 40 processess listed. Why so many and which are needed to
| > > run my computer?
| >
| > 40 is by no means a lot. Although there may be some you can turn off
without
| > harm, my advice is to leave them alone. "Don't fix what ain't broke."
| >
| > --
| > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| > Please reply to the newsgroup
| >
| >
| >
G
Guest
I have a similiar situation. I have 18 programs in my Startup, but in Windows
Task Manager, there are 48 processes running. I believe this is the cause for
my very slow startup and have been so advised by my Best Buy tech support
team. How do I know what I need? What is necessary, what is junk? Is there a
site that will tell me that? I have 384 MB of RAM. Can anyone clue me in here?
Thanx
Task Manager, there are 48 processes running. I believe this is the cause for
my very slow startup and have been so advised by my Best Buy tech support
team. How do I know what I need? What is necessary, what is junk? Is there a
site that will tell me that? I have 384 MB of RAM. Can anyone clue me in here?
Thanx
W
WaIIy
I have a similiar situation. I have 18 programs in my Startup, but in Windows
Task Manager, there are 48 processes running. I believe this is the cause for
my very slow startup and have been so advised by my Best Buy tech support
team. How do I know what I need? What is necessary, what is junk? Is there a
site that will tell me that? I have 384 MB of RAM. Can anyone clue me in here?
Thanx
It will take you a few minutes, but list all your programs in Startup
and the name of all your processes.
I would agree that's the cause for a slow startup and all the running
processes aren't doing you any good.
In the processes, you can Google the name and find out what they are and
decide if you need them running. Some are system processes and some
are not.
K
Ken Blake, MVP
I have a similiar situation. I have 18 programs in my Startup, but in Windows
Task Manager, there are 48 processes running. I believe this is the cause for
my very slow startup and have been so advised by my Best Buy tech support
team. How do I know what I need? What is necessary, what is junk? Is there a
site that will tell me that? I have 384 MB of RAM. Can anyone clue me in here?
Several points here:
1. Best Buy, or any similar big box store, is one of the worst
possible places to get technical support. Most of their employees are
chosen because they are willing to accept low wages, not because of
their technical skills.
2. 48 processes is by means unusual or indicative of a problem. many
people have considerably more than that number without having a
problem.
3. Regarding the 18 programs starting automatically, despite what many
people tell you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these
programs you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance
severely, but others have no effect on performance.
Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do
is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what
the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can get
more information about these at
http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there,
try google searches and ask about specifics here.
Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed
decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of.
4. You don't *need* any programs to start automatically; the choice is
yours. Clearly you should want your security-oriented programs
(anti-virus, etc.) to start automatically, but beyond that the choice
is yours.
5. My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long
it takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
otherwise satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most
people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.
G
Gerry
You are an illusion if you think you have only 18 programmes starting.
Use Autoruns to find any unwanted start ups!
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx
With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from starting,
or you can can right click an item and then delete it. If you uncheck
you can recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much safer approach than
editing the Registry. Another useful feature of the programme is that
you can right click an item and select Search Online to get information
about the item selected.
Have you tried this approach?
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/en-us
Also look for Error Reports in the System log in Event Viewer.
Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in
the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot. No
Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in
a previous boot.
You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.
HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us
Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)
A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Use Autoruns to find any unwanted start ups!
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/Autoruns.mspx
With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from starting,
or you can can right click an item and then delete it. If you uncheck
you can recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much safer approach than
editing the Registry. Another useful feature of the programme is that
you can right click an item and select Search Online to get information
about the item selected.
Have you tried this approach?
How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/en-us
Also look for Error Reports in the System log in Event Viewer.
Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in
the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot. No
Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in
a previous boot.
You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.
HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us
Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)
A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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