System failed - unable to repair - what does install do?

G

Guest

My windows 2000 system crashed on startup, message said file corrupt
ntoskrnl.exe. The automatic and manual repair methods were unable to find
the system or fix it, even with the emergency disk. I *was* able to copy the
file from the windows 2000 cd using the console repair option. Of course it
is an older version. The system still does not startup. I do get past the
missing or corrupt file message, and windows appears to be loading, as the
graphic bar progresses across the Welcome to Windows 2000 Professional
screen. There is a blue stop screen that flashes by and the machine reboots
so fast that it is impossible to read. I have tried several different
options for startup, including safe mode, logging, etc. Still get the blue
stop screen flying by before i could read it.

Thanks for your ideas.
 
D

Dave Patrick

I don't know how much good this will do, but from a parallel install, run
regedt32.exe, then from the Local Machine Hive, choose Registry|Load Hive,
then navigate to the
%windir%\system32\config
directory on the other install, and find the system file, then Open, in the
Key Name box give it some temp name, then under tempname, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select
and look in the Reg_Dword value of "Current", this is the current
controlset, then navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet00x\Control\CrashControl
Where x = the value of "Current" (found above) and set the values as follows

"AutoReboot"=dword:00000000
"CrashDumpEnabled"=dword:00000001
"LogEvent"=dword:00000001
"Overwrite"=dword:00000001
Then navigate back up to "tempname" and choose Unload Hive, and boot your
original install, Autoreboot is now turned off so you should be able to read
the stop error.

Bug Check Codes
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e..._f55acfed-3296-4e84-8885-c3162fd0ddbf.xml.asp

If nothing else you can at least recover your data from the parallel install
prior to rebuilding the operating system.

This article may also help you.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;266465

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| My windows 2000 system crashed on startup, message said file corrupt
| ntoskrnl.exe. The automatic and manual repair methods were unable to
find
| the system or fix it, even with the emergency disk. I *was* able to copy
the
| file from the windows 2000 cd using the console repair option. Of course
it
| is an older version. The system still does not startup. I do get past
the
| missing or corrupt file message, and windows appears to be loading, as the
| graphic bar progresses across the Welcome to Windows 2000 Professional
| screen. There is a blue stop screen that flashes by and the machine
reboots
| so fast that it is impossible to read. I have tried several different
| options for startup, including safe mode, logging, etc. Still get the
blue
| stop screen flying by before i could read it.
|
| Thanks for your ideas.
 
G

Guest

Thanks for responding Dave.
(1) I successfully performed a parallel install following the instructions.
(2) I did as you suggested, using regedt32 to navigate to the local_machine
on local_machine, and loading the hive from the old install, and giving it a
temp name, so now I see
Hkeylocal_machine...>tempname>controloo1>control>crash control>
There are seven values visible in the format,
AutoReboot: Reg_Dword: 0 or
CrashDumpEnabled: Reg_Dword: 0x3
I am unable to edit values from here. Message is, Access Denied. Registry
Editor could not save the value entry. The Key currently selected does not
give you access to a value entry.

Can you guide me through this, or can you refer me to a reference page to
read to understand the regedt32 process better? In a past life I was a
Win'98/Me poweruser, so these win2k problems and commands are foreign to me.

I appreciate your time and effort.
Peter Pepper

Dave Patrick said:
I don't know how much good this will do, but from a parallel install, run
regedt32.exe, then from the Local Machine Hive, choose Registry|Load Hive,
then navigate to the
%windir%\system32\config
directory on the other install, and find the system file, then Open, in the
Key Name box give it some temp name, then under tempname, navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select
and look in the Reg_Dword value of "Current", this is the current
controlset, then navigate to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet00x\Control\CrashControl
Where x = the value of "Current" (found above) and set the values as follows

"AutoReboot"=dword:00000000
"CrashDumpEnabled"=dword:00000001
"LogEvent"=dword:00000001
"Overwrite"=dword:00000001
Then navigate back up to "tempname" and choose Unload Hive, and boot your
original install, Autoreboot is now turned off so you should be able to read
the stop error.

Bug Check Codes
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e..._f55acfed-3296-4e84-8885-c3162fd0ddbf.xml.asp

If nothing else you can at least recover your data from the parallel install
prior to rebuilding the operating system.

This article may also help you.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;266465

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| My windows 2000 system crashed on startup, message said file corrupt
| ntoskrnl.exe. The automatic and manual repair methods were unable to
find
| the system or fix it, even with the emergency disk. I *was* able to copy
the
| file from the windows 2000 cd using the console repair option. Of course
it
| is an older version. The system still does not startup. I do get past
the
| missing or corrupt file message, and windows appears to be loading, as the
| graphic bar progresses across the Welcome to Windows 2000 Professional
| screen. There is a blue stop screen that flashes by and the machine
reboots
| so fast that it is impossible to read. I have tried several different
| options for startup, including safe mode, logging, etc. Still get the
blue
| stop screen flying by before i could read it.
|
| Thanks for your ideas.
 
D

Dave Patrick

You must logon as local administrator. This article may help you.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];256986

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Thanks for responding Dave.
| (1) I successfully performed a parallel install following the
instructions.
| (2) I did as you suggested, using regedt32 to navigate to the
local_machine
| on local_machine, and loading the hive from the old install, and giving it
a
| temp name, so now I see
| Hkeylocal_machine...>tempname>controloo1>control>crash control>
| There are seven values visible in the format,
| AutoReboot: Reg_Dword: 0 or
| CrashDumpEnabled: Reg_Dword: 0x3
| I am unable to edit values from here. Message is, Access Denied.
Registry
| Editor could not save the value entry. The Key currently selected does
not
| give you access to a value entry.
|
| Can you guide me through this, or can you refer me to a reference page to
| read to understand the regedt32 process better? In a past life I was a
| Win'98/Me poweruser, so these win2k problems and commands are foreign to
me.
|
| I appreciate your time and effort.
| Peter Pepper
 
G

Guest

Hi Dave:

I am unable to login as administrator. Perhaps I botched the install?
There does not seem to be an administrator login. Should I assume the user
name and pwd would be administrator if I did not create any users? Is my
lack of capitalization an issue?

I would really like to get this desktop running, as it has some important
infor relative to April 15 on it.

Thanks.
Peter
 
D

Dave Patrick

The local administrator account is a built-in account and exists in all new
installs. The user name is not case sensitive but the password (if any) is
case sensitive. Try leaving the password blank which may be the case if you
didn't specify one at the time of the install.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Hi Dave:
|
| I am unable to login as administrator. Perhaps I botched the install?
| There does not seem to be an administrator login. Should I assume the
user
| name and pwd would be administrator if I did not create any users? Is my
| lack of capitalization an issue?
|
| I would really like to get this desktop running, as it has some important
| infor relative to April 15 on it.
|
| Thanks.
| Peter
 

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