symbols

P

Purple Shark

I tried asking this in another group, but I got the wrong
one, apparently -- I'm hoping this is the right place.

I loaded Word 2000 on my new computer (it came with WP10)
and somehow managed not to load all the symbols and
special characters. Can anyone tell me if and how I
could download the full set from the Web? Or which disk
it might be on and how I can upload just the symbols and
special characters, without reloading the whole program?

TIA.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm just in case
you don't know how to insert them. And see
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Formatting/NoFonts.htm just in case a lack of
appropriate fonts is your problem. Any computer that comes with Windows
installed should give you the Symbol font, along with several Wingdings
fonts, and these contain most of the symbols you may be looking for. Others
are in the Unicode versions of Times New Roman, Arial, and Courier New. All
of these are "Windows core fonts."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
G

Guest

Thank you, but I do know how to insert symbols (do it all
the time, when I have them) and I seem to have a full
complement of fonts, also.

I do not have an accent ague or accent grave (those are
what the French call them) with an e, for instance, nor
do I have things like the pound sterling sign (the L with
a line through it). I do have these symbols and
characters on my old computer, which means that I've got
them on a Word disk, I presume. Which disk they are
located on and how to install them without re-installing
Word on my new computer (and thereby erasing everything I
already have on this new computer).

This is a huge issue for me, one that I am beginning to
tear my hair out over -- if no one here knows the answer,
I would Very Much Appreciate a link to where I should be
asking.

-----Original Message-----
See
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm
just in case
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Actually, it's "accent aigu" (= "acute"; ague is a flu-like illness), and
you should have these characters in any font. If you can't find them in the
Insert | Symbol dialog, try inserting them using one of the other techniques
described in http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm:

1. Using Word's built-in keyboard shortcuts, press Ctrl+', e to get é and
Ctrl+`, e to get è.

2. Using the Alt+0xxx method, press Alt+0233 (on the numeric keypad) to get
é and Alt+0232 to get è.

3. Insert them using the Windows Character Map accessory.

These characters are in every full ANSI font, and you should be seeing them
in Insert | Symbol (they'll be in the Latin-1 character set). If you can't
insert them using any of these methods, then there is something seriously
wrong with your fonts. The core fonts are installed by Windows, and you
should certainly be getting these characters in at least Times New Roman,
Arial, and Courier New. If you are using older, cheap fonts, they may not
include characters that can't be typed directly from the keyboard.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.
 
J

Jay Freedman

The characters you mentioned are in almost every TrueType font
*except* the special symbol fonts. To enter them with the standard
Alt+0xxx keystrokes (that is, hold the Alt key while typing four
digits on the numeric keypad with NumLock turned on), use these:

£ = Alt+0163
è = Alt+0232
é = Alt+0233

The vowels with accents have special shortcuts. (These instructions
assume you have a US keyboard and US English as the Windows keyboard
setting.) To enter a vowel with an accent grave, press and release
Ctrl+` (on the same key with the tilde or ~ character) and then type
the letter. To enter a vowel with an accent ague, press and release
Ctrl+' (the single quote) and then type the letter.

In the Insert > Symbol dialog, for most fonts you'll find the £ near
the right end of the fifth row, and è and é in the middle of the ninth
row.
 
P

Purple Shark

You've been very helpful, thank you all. I'm sure those
shortcuts will work fine. I'm still flummoxed as to why
these character sets aren't in with my fonts, when they
certainly were on my other computer, but, hey, it's Word
and it's Windows, 'nuff said.

And thanks for the spelling correction, it's been a very
long time since I took French.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I think there is still some major misunderstanding here. These are not
"character sets" that are "in with" your fonts. They are part of the font.
If you are using the default Word font, Times New Roman, you should find
them in that. When you open the Insert | Symbol dialog, you should see
"(normal text)" selected. That means that the character you select from the
Symbol dialog (which can be scrolled to show you all the available
characters) will be inserted in the font currently in use (and will change
to a different font if you change the font in the document). If you insert a
character from a symbol font such as Symbol or Wingdings, that will not be
changed if you change the font of the surrounding text.

When you click on the Font dropdown, what fonts do you see listed?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

You've been very helpful, thank you all. I'm sure those
shortcuts will work fine. I'm still flummoxed as to why
these character sets aren't in with my fonts, when they
certainly were on my other computer, but, hey, it's Word
and it's Windows, 'nuff said.

And thanks for the spelling correction, it's been a very
long time since I took French.
 

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