still cant access the win95 machine

[Guest]

I posted back on the 9th about not being able to access my win95 computer on
a network. This is the post:

I have been trying to network a xp a 98 and a 95 machine on the same network
work. My first problem was the " The DHCP client was unable to obtain an IP
address from the DHCP server" error. I was trying to use DHCP. Then I tried
using IP address. I used 192.191.192.167 thru 169 and the subnet of
255.255.255.0. I can see and access the 98 and the xp system from each other.
However I can onle see the 95 machine but can not access it at all, and
sometimes I can not even see the 95 machine. I am new to networking and need
some help.

Those IP addresses should start with 192.168, not with 192.191.

The "DHCP client" error message occurs because:

1. The computers' network connections are configured to obtain an IP
address automatically, and:

2. There isn't a DHCP server on the network to assign an IP address.

Windows 98 and XP can deal with that situation, but Windows 95 can't.

On the 95 machine, go to Control Panel | Network and make these
settings for compatibility with 98 and XP:

1. Add these network components if they aren't already present:

TCP/IP protocol
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

2. Remove these network components if they're present:

IPX/SPX protocol
NetBEUI protocol
Client for NetWare networks

3. Set the workgroup name to the same name that XP uses (default is
MSHOME).

Then, right-click and share the desired disks and folders on 95. They
should be accessible from 98 and XP.

If there are still problems, please post a reply in the news group
with full details. Describe exactly what you're trying to do, and
include the complete text of all error messages. I'm sure that
someone can help.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

_____________________________________________________________________

ok here we are again. Well I followed the above recomendatins about network
components and it did not help. My basic situation is this. 3 computers one
winxp home system one win98 system and one win95 machine. In network
neighberhood or my network places, I can see all three computers. On the
win95 computer I can only see the win95 computer. I can not access the win
95 machine at all. On the win xp computer I get this message: \\win95 is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use......The network path not
found(of course that it's
name). On the 98 machine I get this: the computer or share name could not
be found. What I don't understand is that I can see win95 as a computer from
the xp and the 98 machine. I do not see the others from win95.
please pardon the book that is the text of this post but if you read this
far maybe you can help

 

[Chuck]

I posted back on the 9th about not being able to access my win95 computer on
a network. This is the post:



Those IP addresses should start with 192.168, not with 192.191.

The "DHCP client" error message occurs because:

1. The computers' network connections are configured to obtain an IP
address automatically, and:

2. There isn't a DHCP server on the network to assign an IP address.

Windows 98 and XP can deal with that situation, but Windows 95 can't.

On the 95 machine, go to Control Panel | Network and make these
settings for compatibility with 98 and XP:

1. Add these network components if they aren't already present:

TCP/IP protocol
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

2. Remove these network components if they're present:

IPX/SPX protocol
NetBEUI protocol
Client for NetWare networks

3. Set the workgroup name to the same name that XP uses (default is
MSHOME).

Then, right-click and share the desired disks and folders on 95. They
should be accessible from 98 and XP.

If there are still problems, please post a reply in the news group
with full details. Describe exactly what you're trying to do, and
include the complete text of all error messages. I'm sure that
someone can help.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

_____________________________________________________________________

ok here we are again. Well I followed the above recomendatins about network
components and it did not help. My basic situation is this. 3 computers one
winxp home system one win98 system and one win95 machine. In network
neighberhood or my network places, I can see all three computers. On the
win95 computer I can only see the win95 computer. I can not access the win
95 machine at all. On the win xp computer I get this message: \\win95 is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use......The network path not
found(of course that it's
name). On the 98 machine I get this: the computer or share name could not
be found. What I don't understand is that I can see win95 as a computer from
the xp and the 98 machine. I do not see the others from win95.
please pardon the book that is the text of this post but if you read this
far maybe you can help

Doug,

A couple brief tips about using Usenet.
1) When making additional comments about an ongoing problem being worked on,
it's generally best to continue posting in the same thread (and using the same
Subject). That helps the helpers here find all previous posts easier.
2) The long "_____.." between the previous post and your newest comments may
make some folks news readers react unpredictably. Agent, a popular newsreader,
tends to truncate replies at the underline, so it may take a bit of needless
work to format a reply with all of your post visible.

With all that said, let's get to your problem.

Now that you have unneeded protocols removed from your LAN, all of your
computers should have the following components:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Identify operating system (by name and version) with each ipconfig listing.

Please provide adhoc browser view for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "net view >c:\netview.txt" into the command window -
Open c:\netview.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If
so, please list each firewall, active now or in the past, on any computer.
Firewall configurations are a very common cause of (network) browser, and file
sharing, problems.

Give us some preliminary details, and we'll see where the problem(s) might lie.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Chuck]

I posted back on the 9th about not being able to access my win95 computer on
a network. This is the post:



Those IP addresses should start with 192.168, not with 192.191.

The "DHCP client" error message occurs because:

1. The computers' network connections are configured to obtain an IP
address automatically, and:

2. There isn't a DHCP server on the network to assign an IP address.

Windows 98 and XP can deal with that situation, but Windows 95 can't.

On the 95 machine, go to Control Panel | Network and make these
settings for compatibility with 98 and XP:

1. Add these network components if they aren't already present:

TCP/IP protocol
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

2. Remove these network components if they're present:

IPX/SPX protocol
NetBEUI protocol
Client for NetWare networks

3. Set the workgroup name to the same name that XP uses (default is
MSHOME).

Then, right-click and share the desired disks and folders on 95. They
should be accessible from 98 and XP.

If there are still problems, please post a reply in the news group
with full details. Describe exactly what you're trying to do, and
include the complete text of all error messages. I'm sure that
someone can help.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

ok here we are again. Well I followed the above recomendatins about network
components and it did not help. My basic situation is this. 3 computers one
winxp home system one win98 system and one win95 machine. In network
neighberhood or my network places, I can see all three computers. On the
win95 computer I can only see the win95 computer. I can not access the win
95 machine at all. On the win xp computer I get this message: \\win95 is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use......The network path not
found(of course that it's
name). On the 98 machine I get this: the computer or share name could not
be found. What I don't understand is that I can see win95 as a computer from
the xp and the 98 machine. I do not see the others from win95.
please pardon the book that is the text of this post but if you read this
far maybe you can help

Doug,

A couple brief tips about using Usenet.
1) When making additional comments about an ongoing problem being worked on,
it's generally best to continue posting in the same thread (and using the same
Subject). That helps the helpers here find all previous posts easier.
2) The long "_____.." between the previous post and your newest comments may
make some folks news readers react unpredictably. Agent, a popular newsreader,
tends to truncate replies at the underline, so it may take a bit of needless
work to format a reply with all of your post visible.

With all that said, let's get to your problem.

Now that you have unneeded protocols removed from your LAN, all of your
computers should have the following components:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Identify operating system (by name and version) with each ipconfig listing.

Please provide adhoc browser view for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "net view >c:\netview.txt" into the command window -
Open c:\netview.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If
so, please list each firewall, active now or in the past, on any computer.
Firewall configurations are a very common cause of (network) browser, and file
sharing, problems.

Give us some preliminary details, and we'll see where the problem(s) might lie.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Jetro]

If you got pre-OSR2 Win95, go there.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/...s/S_WUNetworkingTools/W95Sockets2/Default.asp
Windows Socket 2 Update

 

[Guest]

More info about the problem. The three computers used to be connected with a
bnc cable network. Every thing worked ok with the bnc. I changed the nic
card in the win95 machine, I'm pretty sure the card got installed properly.
(it looks ok in device manager) The win95 computer only has 32mb of memmory.
Does any of this spark an idea about the problem? It will be a day or two
before I can get the ipconfig information because my job will take me out of
town for a couple of days.

 

[Guest]

oops I was wong. When the network worked with bnc thw winxp computer was
part of the setup. In it;s place there was a Win me computer. But the win95
copmuter was ok on the network.